Not a good start to my Disney vacation.

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It's pretty common customer service technique. Missing a fry in your food bag? Have a free meal. In good customer service training, it's been beaten into my head making it even isn't making it right.
Do what? Missing a fry, maybe I don't know, get a fry, not an entire meal. Geeze. That's a great example of what is so wrong with folks wanting something for nothing. Humans are human. They make mistakes. A fry wasn't left out of a bag to harm someone, it was an error. An error made right by giving a fry. Not an entire meal
 
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The customer is not always right, no matter what the old saying is. Sometimes they are over demanding and wanting something unwarranted. They are not always right. Less now than they once were matter of fact. Because too many are over demanding. It's those over demanding customers that have caused changes everywhere, not just at Disney. Just look at towel animals as a simple example
 
Also everyone is forgetting that park hoppers don't cost Disney anymore than "Golden fastpasses"

Yes they have retail value, but it doesn't cost them anything to upgrade your tickets. So he's not asking for $375 of Disney's money.
 
http://www.superoffice.com/blog/customer-complaints-good-for-business/

#5 is what is missing.

It's not required to go above and beyond the basic return of your money, but it isn't good business. And yes, yes they did. They even mentioned ways of doing so. Usually, you pick an item that has the least cost to the company. For example for basically any customer complaint, Culver's will give away free scoops of icecream. This doesn't cost much, but it does make an impression.
We are talking about a computer error..or user error..we don't know which. Neither of which actually cost the OP money. I don't even know why he would need to call his cc company. If Disney says they immediately credited it then not one more second needs to be spent on it. The only time there would be an exception is if the money was not refunded after the normal time (which we all know is usually received in half the time that is actually stated, the time limits are given to protect companies just in case)
This is not the same as a low level of customer service.
 
Also everyone is forgetting that park hoppers don't cost Disney anymore than "Golden fastpasses"

Yes they have retail value, but it doesn't cost them anything to upgrade your tickets. So he's not asking for $375 of Disney's money.
Then why doesn't Disney just give everyone park hoppers as a gesture of goodwill? Won't that make customers happy?
 
Also everyone is forgetting that park hoppers don't cost Disney anymore than "Golden fastpasses"

Yes they have retail value, but it doesn't cost them anything to upgrade your tickets. So he's not asking for $375 of Disney's money.
Sure it is, if the OP wanted PH and planned to buy them but didn't because they got them free because they hit submit twice, hit refresh, back, etc (or it was an error on the computer, or whatever)
 
Wow, I feel sorry for the OP on about six pages worth of levels.

If he is still around lurking but too terrified to post, I hope it was a credit card. Because $1600 out of a checking account is in my opinion painful.

OP I hope your experience mirrors mine in that your card is credited back well before ten days. I had this happen once with Halloween party tickets and it was fixed in 2 to 3 business days as I recall.
 
Then why doesn't Disney just give everyone park hoppers as a gesture of goodwill? Won't that make customers happy?

Because they've segmented the market based on who is willing to pay.

I'm assuming the OP was not willing to pay, so all they lose is the opportunity to monetize his desire for flexibility that he wasn't willing to pay for anyway.
 
Wow, I feel sorry for the OP on about six pages worth of levels.

If he is still around lurking but too terrified to post, I hope it was a credit card. Because $1600 out of a checking account is in my opinion painful.

OP I hope your experience mirrors mine in that your card is credited back well before ten days. I had this happen once with Halloween party tickets and it was fixed in 2 to 3 business days as I recall.
I don't disagree with you at all. $1600 hurts no matter what it's on. I keep low limits on my DV so it would really hurt that and my bank account
Still, I think expecting something for the error is over the line.
 
Because they've segmented the market based on who is willing to pay.

I'm assuming the OP was not willing to pay, so all they lose is the opportunity to monetize his desire for flexibility that he wasn't willing to pay for anyway.
But for him to specifically say "park hoppers" means that he debated it, but was unwilling to pay.
Now an opportunity came up for him to try and take advantage of it.

This happens all of the time. And again, it's sad.

There are times when a business should compensate someone. There are times when a business goes above and beyond even when that person technically "shouldn't be compensated".
But for someone to ever imply that they expect it - that is an example of greed on the consumer's end. Not the business.
 
So here is my one argument on the FOR side. If anyone's been reading, you'll see up to now I have been arguing that Disney bears no RESPONSIBILITY to do anything other than issue a credit. In my mind, there is no stake for Disney to be AT FAULT. That's the legal side.

Where I draw a different bead on this conversation is what Disney is legally obligated to do and what they may feel like doing in some cases. My whole problem here is the belligerent attitude of expectation.

I think there is a lot of PR value in Disney handing out compensation at times. However, PERSONALLY, I am more inclined (when it's within my power) to compensate someone who I feel has been wrongly affected by something (in or out of my control) when they are not asking for it. I.E. if they don't have a demand or expectation of compensation and are more informing or asking for help fixing a problem are the ones I am more likely to help.

Many, Many years ago I was staying at Contemporary. I was travelling alone, and on my day back I was horribly sick. I felt like I couldn't breath. I had a sore throat like you couldn't imagine. I had been at Blizzard Beach earlier the trip and personally I believed I caught it there. When checking out, I asked the person at the counter if they had anything they could give me since I wouldn't have any time at the airport and it was too early for the shops at the hotel to open. Note I never blamed, demanded or asked for anything. I didn't tell them I thought I got sick there. I just asked if they had something to help me get home. They were very apologetic and said they didn't. However, the manager asked me to wait a moment. He went in back and came back with keys. The manager walked me up to the shops (which were closed), opened the door and asked me what I would like. I picked out two medications and went to give him money. He waved his hand and told me I didn't need to give them anything - just get better.

Now that DID cost Disney money. Maybe a good $10 worth of cost. However, I have told that story dozens of times and have sung the songs of praise about that manager and that night and how I love Disney since. I joined DVC and I am a shareholder. Is this ONE THING what did all that? No... I was a fan before. But it sure didn't hurt, and it has given me tales to regale people that has helped make me into an ambassador. All for $10. I would say it was a bargain.

Do you do that every time? Of course not. You would be out of business. Heck, I'm not even sure the managers have the keys to the store anymore. That was years ago. Would he have done it if I stormed up to the desk, stated loudly that DISNEY MADE ME SICK, AND I DEMAND COMPENSATION? I doubt it.

Anyway... just my 2 cents on the main topic.
 
Disney as a whole has a responsibility for all of it's branches, regardless of the responsibility of the actual branch.

Wait... So Disney now owns VISA, AT&T, Verizon, and the OP's Bank? I had no idea they had branched out that far!!!

Even if the OP clicked submit more than once, it's simple programming to ensure this doesn't get inserted to a DB twice. Sooo in some ways a company like disney should be able to put in precautions for this kind of thing...

Ummmm. they do? I doubt this error was that simple. Pretty sure I have hit submit twice on their browser by mistake and never been double charged. Backend Computer error is not the same thing as sloppy programming.
 
I don't disagree with you at all. $1600 hurts no matter what it's on. I keep low limits on my DV so it would really hurt that and my bank account
Still, I think expecting something for the error is over the line.

I don't know the OP, but in my mind, he had a $1600 snafu and a less than magical customer service experience. Maybe he came on here to rant, blow off some steam and get a friendly bit of sympathy.

I am sure all of us can agree when it comes to matters of our money being out of our control, we want something done and maybe its not logical to want a hopper upgrade but to me its very understandable.
 
I don't know the OP, but in my mind, he had a $1600 snafu and a less than magical customer service experience. Maybe he came on here to rant, blow off some steam and get a friendly bit of sympathy.

I am sure all of us can agree when it comes to matters of our money being out of our control, we want something done and maybe its not logical to want a hopper upgrade but to me its very understandable.
I think where the OP got folks going sideways was when they used the words "stealing"
They may have made an error but it wasn't theft
The OP lost most folks who could have well gotten on their side with that comment

Also, I've never seen a Disney charge that was applied immediately to the card. They are always pending for a day or 2. Then they hit the card. It's entirely possible the pending charge fell off before even hitting the card. We don't know
 
I don't know the OP, but in my mind, he had a $1600 snafu and a less than magical customer service experience. Maybe he came on here to rant, blow off some steam and get a friendly bit of sympathy.

I am sure all of us can agree when it comes to matters of our money being out of our control, we want something done and maybe its not logical to want a hopper upgrade but to me its very understandable.
Understandable to want maybe a little sympathy or empathy. But claiming someone "stole" something is a bit excessive, and is not even close to the truth.
 
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Ummmm. they do? I doubt this error was that simple. Pretty sure I have hit submit twice on their browser by mistake and never been double charged. Backend Computer error is not the same thing as sloppy programming.

So we wanna say server error or something? Still not sure that's completely the user's fault. I mean if you've been able to double submit a form and not be charged twice, then that is more evidence it's probably not the user's fault. That's all I'm trying to say. The blame isn't solely on the user like some implied.
 
But for him to specifically say "park hoppers" means that he debated it, but was unwilling to pay.
Now an opportunity came up for him to try and take advantage of it.

This happens all of the time. And again, it's sad.

There are times when a business should compensate someone. There are times when a business goes above and beyond even when that person technically "shouldn't be compensated".
But for someone to ever imply that they expect it - that is an example of greed on the consumer's end. Not the business.

Ok wait a minute. How do we know the OP debated about hoppers, then "an opportunity " came up?

I think he had tickets on the brain after he got an extra $1600 charged to his card and an option to those tickets was just a thought that at the time made sense to him when he was really upset that it might take 10 days to get that amount credited back.
Understandable. But claiming someone "stole" something is a bit excessive

Honestly I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He was upset. In the heat of a $1600 moment I'm wanting to rant, get something for my trouble and that's about it!

When your money goes missing, especially an amount that large it feels like stealing.


Lucky for him he's been set straight, accused of taking an opportunity to get a ticket ugrade and all sorts of other things.

Odds are good he's scratching his head at this thread and now feeling like he committed pre meditated grand theft park hopper!
 
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