"Official" Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party 2017 - Believe in the Magic

[DisneyMom93]

It needs to be clear if that is their intention. Either code it to reject party tickets or state clearly "Party tickets are not eligible for FP." Clarity is good.



Regardless, it's not my choice or yours. Disney gets to do what they want with it. But they need to be clear about what is included.

Allowing people in 3 hours early isn't my choice or yours either. If you don't like it, you probably should choose another day to visit the MK.

You gave your opinion about why Disney should allow the FPs for party guests. I gave mine about why they shouldn't.

I didn't tell anyone to stop giving their opinions, quit complaining, and not do the party.

Since you mentioned it, we do the party days at the park because MK is considered "less crowded" those days.

I know it's not my choice, or yours. I thought this was a discussion board. ???

 

[LucyBC80]

People on the Official MNSSHP post are discussing FPs being removed from MDE for party tickets only.

Word is FPs are for park tickets only and not for special event tickets.

At least one person got an email telling them they had one day too many FPs. If I remember correctly others have had theirs removed.

So if you have a 4 day park ticket you can only have 4 days of FPs. They will remove the excess FPs from your MDE. They will remove the last day of FPs regardless of which day you booked the FPs for the party.

Anyone here get any emails about their MVMCP FPs?

Well this sucks. If they let you in at 4pm why wouldn't you be able to use the fastpass system? It's not a work around, it's ticket being used for it's purpose.

 

[DisneyMom93]

Well this sucks. If they let you in at 4pm why wouldn't you be able to use the fastpass system? It's not a work around, it's ticket being used for it's purpose.

Apparently Special Event Tickets are not entitled to FPs, since FPs are not set up for the party time.

 

[LucyBC80]

Apparently Special Event Tickets are not entitled to FPs, since FPs are not set up for the party time.

I replied before reading the rest of the thread and yeah, I can see everyone's point. Well, I'll be an AP by the time my first MVMCP comes around so they won't be able to take away my FP's but it does put a crick in my plans for now.

 

[Skallywag Steph]

I feel like this is what they're doing to appease both day ticket holders and party guests. It's an old argument between the two groups of whose getting the shaft worse and i feel like disney may be trying to make it a little more fair. Since they are closing the park at 6 to day guests and giving party guests that EMH from 6-7, i feel like removing fast passes is the right thing to do. That's only my opinion for the MVMCP. I can't explain why they're doing it for the halloween parties.

 

[LucyBC80]

A friend and I have been discussing this change and we're pretty much certain they won't allow party goers access to the park prior to 6PM. I don't know how they'll handle the MNSSHP but for MVMCP it's looking more and more likely we'll have to wait till 6 to enter MK.

 

[DisneyMom93]

A friend and I have been discussing this change and we're pretty much certain they won't allow party goers access to the park prior to 6PM. I don't know how they'll handle the MNSSHP but for MVMCP it's looking more and more likely we'll have to wait till 6 to enter MK.

Interesting. What are you basing this on?

I was thinking the same thing, but just based on the fact that Disney seems to be trying to accommodate the day guests better, as well as make it possible for party guests to be inside the park at the beginning of the party. I'll be a party guest for MVMCP for one night in November, however, I will also be using a park ticket for MK on party days (days I'm not going to the party, as well as the one day I am.)

I guess it's not the "popular" opinion on the MVMCP thread, but I'm hoping for 6pm entry for party guests who are only entering with a special event ticket. I do hope if that's the case though that Disney handles it in a way that people have advance notice.

 

[LucyBC80]

Interesting. What are you basing this on?

I was thinking the same thing, but just based on the fact that Disney seems to be trying to accommodate the day guests better, as well as make it possible for party guests to be inside the park at the beginning of the party. I'll be a party guest for MVMCP for one night in November, however, I will also be using a park ticket for MK on party days (days I'm not going to the party, as well as the one day I am.)

I guess it's not the "popular" opinion on the MVMCP thread, but I'm hoping for 6pm entry for party guests who are only entering with a special event ticket. I do hope if that's the case though that Disney handles it in a way that people have advance notice.

The main reason is the 6pm closing on party nights. My guess is the complains got to be too much and they've changed the time we'll be allowed allowed. I just hope they'll enforce the 6PM closing and have the park empty but for party guests by the time 7pm rolls around. What is fair is fair.

 

[DisneyMom93]

The main reason is the 6pm closing on party nights. My guess is the complains got to be too much and they've changed the time we'll be allowed allowed. I just hope they'll enforce the 6PM closing and have the park empty but for party guests by the time 7pm rolls around. What is fair is fair.

Agreed.

I think the only non-party guests that will be there after 7pm are any with ADRs for 5:50pm (the last available for non-party guests). But they are escorted out of the park directly to the exit so that shouldn't be an issue for party guests.

 

[RJstanis]

I think Disneymom93 and mom2rtk both have valid arguments.

I think the original reason for the 4pm entry is to ease the rush of party goers at the gates. In order to maximize your time they allowed early entry to hit the ground running once the party started. I'd be irrate if I only had 5 hours of party time and I spent a good chunk of it just waiting to get in the park.

I for one think it sucks that the party prices keep increasing and it's just one more thing they take away without replacing (less dance parties, less characters, etc). But the same could be had with those paying full admission for a park that closes early. You already lose hours and evening entertainment for a ticket that is not discounted. The advantages for both choices are there are people on both sides who don't want to pay prices to only get a portion of the time and entertainment that they would otherwise get on different days, so there's less people at either one than a normal day.

No matter what it's a lose lose scenario. I've never gone to MK on a party day and have always utilized FP on a party day since FP+ started, but I think it is more fair to give it to those paying for admission for the day than those for the party. I just personally don't like it, because it effects me, especially since they keep jacking up prices. Ultimately, just like anything else at Disney or other things in life, only the buyer can put a value on a product or service offered, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[disravenlaur]

So excited to finally be in Disney for the holidays. Two of my favorite things together: Christmas and Disney. We will be attending 2 parties which will be Friday the 8th and Thursday the 14th. I think I am going to need the first party to stand there and cry . We definitely would like to meet Scrooge. I have been dreaming since I was a little girl of standing on Main St watching the parade and watching it snow. What is the best time to get my Main St spot for the first parade?

 

[gottalovepluto]

Actually what's being removed is the last day of FPs they have.

If the party is on the last day of their MDE then yes the 4-7pm FPs are being removed. If the party is any other day of the week in their MDE, the last days FPs are being removed. So ANY FPs booked on their last day are the ones that will be removed.

So they will need to go in their MDE and remove the party FPs before their last day's FPs are removed by the system.

Woah, losing the whole last day?! I would not risk holding onto Party FPs then!

 

[gottalovepluto]

I'm thinking the average non-DIS visitor would consider a party ticket to be a theme park ticket.

Heck, I'm decently DIS versed and I would have been blindsided by that double talk!

 

[LucyBC80]

Woah, losing the whole last day?! I would not risk holding onto Party FPs then!

Can you imagine that day being an AK day with a FOP FP? YIKES.

At least they are warning people instead of going rogue and deleting them without warning.

 

[gottalovepluto]

A friend and I have been discussing this change and we're pretty much certain they won't allow party goers access to the park prior to 6PM. I don't know how they'll handle the MNSSHP but for MVMCP it's looking more and more likely we'll have to wait till 6 to enter MK.

Intriguing... I just went back and reviewed the tickets and website and there is no mention of early entry into MK anywhere. 6pm is the earliest I see on the party specific dining pages (although if you have a 6pm dining reservation, you'll have to be given access to the parks at least 15 mins before I would think). I can't help but think this is just a Disney oversight but with change in the air I feel like I might as well flip a coin trying to guess!

 

[LucyBC80]

Intriguing... I just went back and reviewed the tickets and website and there is no mention of early entry into MK anywhere. 6pm is the earliest I see on the party specific dining pages (although if you have a 6pm dining reservation, you'll have to be given access to the parks at least 15 mins before I would think). I can't help but think this is just a Disney oversight but with change in the air I feel like I might as well flip a coin trying to guess!

There has never been any official word on early entry. When you buy the tickets by phone the CMs always quote 7pm as when you can enter. Heck, till a few years ago the 'normal' guests would never show up at 4pm and some are still surprised when I tell them that they can enter that early with only a party ticket, only more advanced planners know about this. The problem is that with everyone having access to Facebook the information has been disseminated enough that is has caused a problem to the normal park operation. As always the Internet killed the radio star.

 

[Jenn504]

I will be going to the party on Dec 5. I will spending the day in the magic kingdom. I was wondering if anyone on this thread had experience with how universal does their horror nights. I did a little research for my husband when he went in 2015. I stayed at the hotel with the kids while he went. He eventually did a RIP tour so his experience was a little different than the average. The way I understand universal doing it is they close the park early. Clear everyone out except people who have horror tickets and came into the park early on a theme park ticket. They corral these people in holding areas. Then when it is party time, they release the holding areas and start letting party guests in. I was hoping someone who has first hand knowledge of how it works might comment if this system works. Does anyone think Disney might be moving to this system for the Christmas party with earlier park closing. With not letting people make fast passes durning the Halloween party maybe it is their first step. With the park closing at 6 I don't think we will be allowed to make any fast passes during this time. I have no facts for thinking Disney is moving to a corrall (Universal system). Just wondering what more experienced Disney people thought.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I will be going to the party on Dec 5. I will spending the day in the magic kingdom. I was wondering if anyone on this thread had experience with how universal does their horror nights. I did a little research for my husband when he went in 2015. I stayed at the hotel with the kids while he went. He eventually did a RIP tour so his experience was a little different than the average. The way I understand universal doing it is they close the park early. Clear everyone out except people who have horror tickets and came into the park early on a theme park ticket. They corral these people in holding areas. Then when it is party time, they release the holding areas and start letting party guests in. I was hoping someone who has first hand knowledge of how it works might comment if this system works. Does anyone think Disney might be moving to this system for the Christmas party with earlier park closing. With not letting people make fast passes durning the Halloween party maybe it is their first step. With the park closing at 6 I don't think we will be allowed to make any fast passes during this time. I have no facts for thinking Disney is moving to a corrall (Universal system). Just wondering what more experienced Disney people thought.

Interesting. I would hate to be "corralled" for an hour if I have a day park ticket and an evening party ticket. Actually, I'll be sitting in BOG during that hour....

But I would like to see them try something different than corralling people. Unless they provide entertainment or something "Magical" to keep us occupied, not just feeling like cattle. Lol.

As for not allowing FPs for party tickets, I'm not sure there's an answer yet. Some feel it's a glitch with the recent MDE update, others feel it's an update purposely made to prevent party FPs. I'm not sure how or when we will know for sure. Hopefully before the parties actually start!

 

[Jenn504]

i agree about being held in an holding area. There might be a lot less people at Universal parties and that is why they can do that. Not sure how many people Disney would have to hold. I guess Disney would have a pretty good idea of how many guests enter the magic kingdom on a theme park ticket and stay for the party with a party ticket since they give out wristbands inside the park.

 

[MrsTurnerLovesDisney]

it will be interesting to see what happens with the party time in for guests. We have only a party ticket for Nov 28th and planned to hit adventureland at 4 for rides then party after. If we can't get in at 6 I'll just have to adjust and we will come back to MK on Friday evening. Glad I'm not part of the first party so maybe some kinks will be worked out.