News Round Up 2017

First I agree with you on ToT is safe in DHS, at least not going to be GotG. I am not sure on the two rides part, as I believe there is still a plan to potentially make WoL in Epcot more GotG at some point. Not sure if that is still valid.

To me IF GotG is the only real Marvel piece they can push in WDW for now, they will push it more than just the one ride. JMO.

but I do think at some point ToT gets a minor change, and the Twilight aspect gets lost.
I was more thinking about GOTG being in two different parks at WDW. I could see them expanding the GOTG to WoL eventually but that is right next door to the coaster.
 
First I agree with you on ToT is safe in DHS, at least not going to be GotG. I am not sure on the two rides part, as I believe there is still a plan to potentially make WoL in Epcot more GotG at some point. Not sure if that is still valid.

Just wonder where they would have the events for the Food & Wine Festival if the Wonders of Life Pavilion is closed? Most of the beverage seminars and cooking demonstrations are held in that building. I think its also used for Flower & Garden Festival and Festival of the Arts.
 
Just wonder where they would have the events for the Food & Wine Festival if the Wonders of Life Pavilion is closed? Most of the beverage seminars and cooking demonstrations are held in that building. I think its also used for Flower & Garden Festival and Festival of the Arts.
World Showplace perhaps? I have a feeling they could find space for that kind of stuff.
 
Just wonder where they would have the events for the Food & Wine Festival if the Wonders of Life Pavilion is closed? Most of the beverage seminars and cooking demonstrations are held in that building. I think its also used for Flower & Garden Festival and Festival of the Arts.

Couldn't they use the Millennial Village space between Canada and England? Or Odyssey?
 
Just wonder where they would have the events for the Food & Wine Festival if the Wonders of Life Pavilion is closed? Most of the beverage seminars and cooking demonstrations are held in that building. I think its also used for Flower & Garden Festival and Festival of the Arts.

They used the Odyssey building for Festival of Arts. It worked pretty well.
 
I suspect the Odyssey building would be a bit small for all the functions currently housed in the festival center. Merchandise, wine shop and seminars all at once would be a lot of stuff to fit in there.
 
I don't believe ToT will last forever but I don't see it becoming GOTG:MB anytime soon.

I believe that the one in WDW and the one in Tokyo will be safe for the time being.
WDW is the original version and for the time being enough people know of Twilight Zone to keep it going. I believe they're also trying to revive the series?
The Tokyo one was made to have an original story line because people in Japan didn't care or didn't know about the Twilight Zone series.
 
I suspect the Odyssey building would be a bit small for all the functions currently housed in the festival center. Merchandise, wine shop and seminars all at once would be a lot of stuff to fit in there.

yeah, couldn't fit everything in there but do seminars there and shops somewhere else, etc - I think they can find the space
 
Everyone talks about how Disney wants to get out of the IP deal with CBS for ToT, but come on, how much can that IP be really costing them. Twilight Zone has next to no relevance today other than reruns on MeTV. If CBS is getting $100,000 a year for use of that IP I would be in shock, which is a pittance. And even so, if they wanted to get rid of it, they could cut out the Twilight Zone references pretty easily since they are entirely on video and audio cues, so you could change it to ToT without the TZ.

But in the end, here's what you need to remember...Disney could have easily pushed to do the GotG overlay on ToT in Orlando same as Anaheim, but they didn't. Instead they decided they'd rather spend $200+ million to get GotG into Epcot. That right there tells me they didn't really want to change the ToT to something else. They could have easily saved a big pile of money. Instead they are keeping it. Now, maybe that is related to DHS being almost bereft of things to do, but it still says that ToT is likely safe well into 2019. And even beyond that, once SW:GE opens, they'll still want rides in that park to handle the overflow. So I just think it doesn't make any sense that with where they are right now that it's going to change anytime soon.
 
Everyone talks about how Disney wants to get out of the IP deal with CBS for ToT, but come on, how much can that IP be really costing them. Twilight Zone has next to no relevance today other than reruns on MeTV. If CBS is getting $100,000 a year for use of that IP I would be in shock, which is a pittance. And even so, if they wanted to get rid of it, they could cut out the Twilight Zone references pretty easily since they are entirely on video and audio cues, so you could change it to ToT without the TZ.

But in the end, here's what you need to remember...Disney could have easily pushed to do the GotG overlay on ToT in Orlando same as Anaheim, but they didn't. Instead they decided they'd rather spend $200+ million to get GotG into Epcot. That right there tells me they didn't really want to change the ToT to something else. They could have easily saved a big pile of money. Instead they are keeping it. Now, maybe that is related to DHS being almost bereft of things to do, but it still says that ToT is likely safe well into 2019. And even beyond that, once SW:GE opens, they'll still want rides in that park to handle the overflow. So I just think it doesn't make any sense that with where they are right now that it's going to change anytime soon.


I don't think it is so much about spending the money, it's about having a valuable ride, one of the most popular in all of their parks, that isn't promoting one of their own IPs. It's a missed opportunity. Years ago that was never an issue. The partnership with MGM made the park kind of unique that way. But as that has gone away, it is clear Disney's goal is create the most hideous of corporate buzzwords, synergies. First is the name. MGM's tie obviously is long gone, but it was one step. Next they bring Indiana Jones and Star Wars in house. Not that I think the Parks were the driving force for this, but it definitely was on their minds. Then they convert the Great Movie Ride, bringing that to an in house IP.

There is no doubt in my mind ToT and RnRC are on the schedule eventually. These will be brought to in-house IPs so long as this direction remains. Now with Iger maybe leaving in 2019, a new direction may come, but I doubt it. Leverage and synergies are horrible buzzwords, but it's quite clear what Disney is doing.

I wouldn't bet on Mission Breakout, but I think a Disney IP of some kind will eventually get that spot. Some with RnRC, which I think will happen first.
 
I would love to see that Sunset Blvd area turned into a villains land. I think it's high time the villains get some play outside of Halloween time.

I know someone has already talked about this being discussed in the past (I've missed any discussion of it though). I actually like the idea of that section of the park being overrun with Villains. If they re-themed RNR to be villain themed they could leave Tower of Terror as it is (sort of a "scary" villain like ride). They could do a meet and greet, have villain-related food items; there's already a villain store, re-theme the food places, Villain show in place of Beauty and the Beast, etc.
 

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