Should I accept DCP 2018?

CiscoDel

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Hi everyone.

I just got accepted to be part of the DCP Spring 2018. I signed up because i've wanting to intern for Disney (Imagineering ideally) or Marvel in Graphic Design related roles.. and for so many years i've not had any luck getting a response. I heard a few people in the past mention the DCP as the best way to start or get a chance to get an internship or an actual Full time job as a Graphic Designer for Disney.

I am from NYC, and i live here alone.. my family lives overseas so I make my own income and pay my own rent... so it's a big move for me to go to Florida and as i see that in this program i will be making only 10$ an hour. This is a huge risk high reward feeling I am going through and I just don't know what is the wise decision. I've been having a hard time just getting a better job in graphic design and my heart just wants to be an Environmental Graphic Designer for Disney Imagineering.. is taking this DCP the best way to go, is it worth it?
 
Disney is well-known for its nepotism. That isn't to say you can't get a professional job with Disney without having done a DCP or internship, but what I have heard, over and over again is that if you have completed a DCP or internship, you will definitely find that you will have a sizeable advantage over those applicants who haven't done this. Successfully completing DCP and being eligible for rehire says to the hiring bosses at Disney that, in attitude at least, you are not a big risk (you have their cast member mentality), and that is HUGE. Unless a job position is extremely specialized and requires a very particular set of skills and/or education, they have more than enough applicants for their jobs, so they can pick and choose. . .and there are many people with graphic design degrees from really great schools who would love to work at Disney.

You should talk to some people who are actually doing the DCP right now to get a feel for how your income will work out. You will be living in an apartment with other DCP workers with Disney providing transportation etc, and unless things have changed significantly recently, you can pick up overtime to supplement your income. Also, NYC is one of the most expensive places to live in the USA. Florida is fairly cheap.

Good luck!
 
Disney is well-known for its nepotism. That isn't to say you can't get a professional job with Disney without having done a DCP or internship, but what I have heard, over and over again is that if you have completed a DCP or internship, you will definitely find that you will have a sizeable advantage over those applicants who haven't done this. Successfully completing DCP and being eligible for rehire says to the hiring bosses at Disney that, in attitude at least, you are not a big risk (you have their cast member mentality), and that is HUGE. Unless a job position is extremely specialized and requires a very particular set of skills and/or education, they have more than enough applicants for their jobs, so they can pick and choose. . .and there are many people with graphic design degrees from really great schools who would love to work at Disney.

You should talk to some people who are actually doing the DCP right now to get a feel for how your income will work out. You will be living in an apartment with other DCP workers with Disney providing transportation etc, and unless things have changed significantly recently, you can pick up overtime to supplement your income. Also, NYC is one of the most expensive places to live in the USA. Florida is fairly cheap.

Good luck!
So you really recommend I take the shot? I really want to intern for Disney but at the same time the DCP is like a huge risk financially. I will have to get a ticket to florida, move all my stuff (since i have no where to put it), put my studies on hold... and i'm just not sure if I will end up getting a chance to do Graphic Design for Disney.
 
It's you again (saw your post on Facebook)! Have you applied to any Professional Internships? There are two Graphic Design positions open right now.
 


It's you again (saw your post on Facebook)! Have you applied to any Professional Internships? There are two Graphic Design positions open right now.

Yes. I'm always applying.. i really need to speak to an hr or something.. at least a portfolio review. i believe i have the skills and knowledge to be a graphic designer for Disney but i'm just getting any chance at all.

I don't know if this DCP is a good idea, it sounds too much like a risk and a long shot just to get a foot in the door and finally land an internship or better, full time.
 
It sounds like you are still in school so you don't actually have your degree yet correct? They are unlikely to hire you in a professional position with out it. As for the DCP if you want to have a better chance at getting into that professional position this is one way to prove yourself. My son applied for a professional position right after graduating in Disney conservation, top of his class with research experience. He didnt get it. A longtime cm friend of ours told him to apply for Dcp since he was still in the window that would give him a chance next time he applied because they almost alway only hire for those professional positions if you have had this experience.He will be there n Jan.
 
So you really recommend I take the shot? I really want to intern for Disney but at the same time the DCP is like a huge risk financially. I will have to get a ticket to florida, move all my stuff (since i have no where to put it), put my studies on hold... and i'm just not sure if I will end up getting a chance to do Graphic Design for Disney.

I am simply saying that, unless your field is so specialized that only one or two people would ever apply for a professional job that disney posts (and look around at the # of students just in NYC that are in graphic design school). You will have a much, much, much better chance of getting a Disney job with a Disney internship under your belt. You will have a much, much, much better chance of getting a Disney internship with a successful DCP under your belt.

Not to say that it's impossible, but it's not impossible to win the PowerBall either.
 


Yes. I'm always applying.. i really need to speak to an hr or something.. at least a portfolio review. i believe i have the skills and knowledge to be a graphic designer for Disney but i'm just getting any chance at all.

I don't know if this DCP is a good idea, it sounds too much like a risk and a long shot just to get a foot in the door and finally land an internship or better, full time.

Okay, let me just be honest here. If you don't want to take the DCP, then you need to give up on Disney and find something else that suits you better.
 
It sounds like you are still in school so you don't actually have your degree yet correct? They are unlikely to hire you in a professional position with out it. As for the DCP if you want to have a better chance at getting into that professional position this is one way to prove yourself. My son applied for a professional position right after graduating in Disney conservation, top of his class with research experience. He didnt get it. A longtime cm friend of ours told him to apply for Dcp since he was still in the window that would give him a chance next time he applied because they almost alway only hire for those professional positions if you have had this experience.He will be there n Jan.

I do have a degree in Multimedia Design. I'm currently a Graduate student.
 
Okay, let me just be honest here. If you don't want to take the DCP, then you need to give up on Disney and find something else that suits you better.

The only reason why I want to take the DCP is because of a possible chance to Intern for Disney Imagineering, Yellow Shoes, Marvel, Walt Disney Company, etc.. I've been working on various ways for me to reach this goal, and I don't know what other option i have. It's just so risky. I will working a 10$ hr part time job during the DCP and I'm not even sure if this plan of mine will work.

So i just want info from people if the DCP gives a good chance... i've been hearing mixed reviews on it so far.
 
Okay, let me just be honest here. If you don't want to take the DCP, then you need to give up on Disney and find something else that suits you better.

No, I think this is bad advice. You do not need to take a low-paying job that will give you absolutely no experience in your field just to get a Disney internship. I know six Imagineers who are alumni from my school (granted, small population of the entire Imagineering department), all in architecture, and none of them did DCP. They got in either through their own resume and portfolio or participating in the Disney Imaginations competition. DCP may be helpful in gaining experience for other roles like Guest Services, Operations, etc., but it does not get you relevant experience for the design field.
 
No, I think this is bad advice. You do not need to take a low-paying job that will give you absolutely no experience in your field just to get a Disney internship. I know six Imagineers who are alumni from my school (granted, small population of the entire Imagineering department), all in architecture, and none of them did DCP. They got in either through their own resume and portfolio or participating in the Disney Imaginations competition. DCP may be helpful in gaining experience for other roles like Guest Services, Operations, etc., but it does not get you relevant experience for the design field.

Are you saying that i should decline the DCP because of it not leading me to my goals? Disney has never responded to any of the applications i've sent.. i just don't know what to do. I am already having difficulty as it is getting a job here in NYC and i've been building my portfolio during the mean time... I just don't know what to do.
 
Are you saying that i should decline the DCP because of it not leading me to my goals? Disney has never responded to any of the applications i've sent.. i just don't know what to do. I am already having difficulty as it is getting a job here in NYC and i've been building my portfolio during the mean time... I just don't know what to do.

I mean, I can't tell you what to do. But it sounds like DCP is going to be a big financial burden, and I don't know if it's worth the possible payoff. What position of DCP were you accepted into? How much you think you'll enjoy that might factor into your decision.

And like I said on Facebook, look into your existing network - who do you know that works for Disney? Alumni from your school? Faculty members with connections? Reach out to people you know and tell them your goal, and you never know who might know someone and be able to set you up.

I just think that for a creative position with Disney, they don't really see DCP as a huge asset. It might have some influence later on, but it's not going to be what gets you that first phone screen. They care more about your skills. Make sure that your skills on your resume match up with the keywords in the job applications because your skill set is initially being evaluated by a computer.
 
Are you saying that i should decline the DCP because of it not leading me to my goals? Disney has never responded to any of the applications i've sent.. i just don't know what to do. I am already having difficulty as it is getting a job here in NYC and i've been building my portfolio during the mean time... I just don't know what to do.

Honestly, this isn't the kind of question with one simple answer IMO. On the one hand, while I'm sure there are quite a few examples of current CMs (in Imagineering and various other professional fields) who had no past experience w/ the company at the time of hiring. But based on what I've been told by professional recruiting, and at all of the TWDC networking events I've attended, Disney absolutely prioritizes former CMs and hires from within the company when possible. Nearly all of my superiors (essentially, the upper management CMs who ran the various lands where I worked) began working menial, low-income jobs like Custodial/QSFB/Merchandise. I do 100% believe that you will give yourself a leg up and make yourself a more attractive hire to the company if you complete a CP (and triply so if you complete an actual Professional Internship in your field). And as I mentioned, there are tons of networking opportunities on the program, which exist specifically so that you can speak with Disney professionals and higher-ups about your future goals. You would be surprised how easy it is to make useful connections within the company, and adding these people on LinkedIn and keeping in touch with them can lead to a huge pay-off going forward.

TL;DR I do think the DCP will increase your chances of a future hire–but, on the other hand, as others have said, it will do...literally nothing in terms of preparing you for your actual field of study. You're going to be working in a guest service role for which you'll be paid very little. And in order to do this, you're going to need to leave your job and apartment at home–I'm also going to school in NYC (just about to complete my Undergrad) so I completely understand how significant that is. It's completely reasonable not to want to uproot your life, and there are a lot of different factors to consider...Are you confident that you can either return to your job or successfully land a new job and apartment by the time you head home? Keep in mind that you have 5-6 months to apply to jobs back at NYC during your stay in Florida. And as someone else has said, the cost of living in Florida is MUCH cheaper than the cost of living in NY. I paid about $93 a week for my apartment as a CP (and this was less than a year ago) so while the DCP won't net you much money, it won't lose you much money either.

I would say the bottom line is...you can get a job with Disney without having completed a CP/PI, but it will be much more difficult to do so. You're going to need to make sure that your resume, CV and portfolio stand out from other candidates'. Just as importantly...if you don't do a CP, find a way to connect with CMs if at all possible. I'm not saying Disney doesn't care about your skills, but TWDC reviews an absurd number of applications each year, and many of those people are also extremely qualified, and either have a lot of experience in their field and/or experience with Disney. Also, (again, as some others have already said), you might consider just applying to work (in your field) with some different companies, and keep Disney in mind for a later point in your life.

If you do decide to do the program, NETWORK. That's going to matter more than your everyday work (as long as you keep a relatively clean record card), since this is how you can move on to a Professional Internship. IMO if you can snag a PI (some of which only hire DCP alumni, and ALL of which give preference to DCP alumni), you're practically in. It's obviously no guarantee, but I know several PIs who were hired in the same role as soon as their internships ended.

I know this is a LOT, but hopefully I gave some different perspectives...It's a hard decision to make, so I sympathize.
 
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Honestly,

I think it depends on several things. You said your family is overseas. If you are here on a student visa, will your status be in jeopardy, if you do the DCP? Secondly, Does your school offer the courses you need year round? I really wanted to do the DCP but some classes were only offered every two years. If I took a semester off, it would put me two years behind which was not ok.

Lastly. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. My last year of grad school, I had to make two choices: Take a internship at adidas or go into the work force at another company with a full time job at a less cool company. Because my family was not well off, it was a big risk if I didn't secure something afterwards. I had nothing to fall back on, if it didn't work out. I decided to make the plunge and I'm glad I did. I made it to my Dream Company (NIKE). I still may not be in my dream position there yet, its way better than what I would be doing if I had went straight into the workforce.

At the end of the day, I would realistically think? What do I have to lose? If this is your dream, what sacrifices are you willing to make to work at your dream company? If the only true issue is you'll be one semester behind. I think you have your answer.
 
I’m going to put my HR hat on here and say it will look bad if, as you say, you’ve applied multiple times to Disney and now that they are finally giving you a chance you turn it down. I understand you were applying to positions in your field before and this is for the general CP. But you knew the difference in the types of roles before applying and decided it was worth it to pursue a CP role anyway. If I were a hiring manager considering hiring you and I found out that you turned down a position with my company after applying multiple times I would have to really consider if I should hire you.
 
What position of DCP were you accepted into? How much you think you'll enjoy that might factor into your decision.

Food/drinks.. and no, i don't want to do that. I'm only ok with it if this DCP will lead me to my goals.

And like I said on Facebook, look into your existing network - who do you know that works for Disney? Alumni from your school? Faculty members with connections? Reach out to people you know and tell them your goal, and you never know who might know someone and be able to set you up.
Sadly no. I've met people in the past, some online and one from school.. they all liked my portfolio and just gave me tips. One girl i met last year in the DPI Facebook page said she will refer me, so i ended up messaging her on Linkedin to help out with referring me to a intern position at Marvel NYC... she never replied. Best shot for me is the Disney groups, but it would be better if it was an actual HR i suppose.
 
@Serrina89 I'm an American Citizen. My family and I moved back to our home country when i was young.
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Thanks to everyone btw for replying. I'm sorry if i'm annoying.. i just can't think of anything else i want in my life than to be an Environmental Graphic Designer - Imagineer.

There is a video on youtube of an Environmental Graphic Designer from Imagineering


For the last 4+ years i've been watching this video and I know i can do this if I can just get my foot in the door. I chose to pursue graphic design because I wanted to be an Imagineer so I'm so frustrated that it hasn't happened.

I think i'm going to try the InMail thing again on Linkedin just so i can PM that person on the video and other HR's just to ask for advice, reviews, or something... and hopefully something good happens by Dec. If not then maybe just take the jump in DCP?
 
I would imagine that your DCP Offer was like my son's in which you had 48 hours to respond to the offer (I believe it was 48 hours, it was definitely short time limited) . That being the case you are likely beyond the point of being accepted. Not responding to the offer yay or nay, is an automatic decline, so it seems that you have likely declined this opportunity. Perhaps you can apply again later and get an acceptance once again, though I am sure a decline will have some weight on future opportunities but for now I would set my sights to other opportunities th
 
@Serrina89 I'm an American Citizen. My family and I moved back to our home country when i was young.
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Thanks to everyone btw for replying. I'm sorry if i'm annoying.. i just can't think of anything else i want in my life than to be an Environmental Graphic Designer - Imagineer.

There is a video on youtube of an Environmental Graphic Designer from Imagineering


For the last 4+ years i've been watching this video and I know i can do this if I can just get my foot in the door. I chose to pursue graphic design because I wanted to be an Imagineer so I'm so frustrated that it hasn't happened.

I think i'm going to try the InMail thing again on Linkedin just so i can PM that person on the video and other HR's just to ask for advice, reviews, or something... and hopefully something good happens by Dec. If not then maybe just take the jump in DCP?

Your desire is obviously there. That’s not in doubt. Humbly, I’d say continue to build your resume, portfolio, etc w projects, experiences, and gradually, more and more earned leadership roles. Eventually the continued hard work will pay off and you’ll have many opportunities to choose from. Just keep at it.

PM’ing and getting referrals from folks is quite hard if they do not personally know you. These are long shots. It can be risky for them too. Line up references too. Everything you want can come true and then some.
 

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