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News Round Up 2017

rteetz said:
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Reunion Station at Wilderness Lodge to Offer Disney Vacation Club Members Paid Lounge Experience
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Wow. That was something that spirit talked about on wdwmagic years ago, before a spade was put in the ground for the changes at the Wilderness Lodge. He mentioned resort wide changes, and one was a dedicated DVC lounge. Not to offer up a solely biased opinion on this, but being a DVC member, that is something that I would definitely pay for, if similar to the concierge lounges in the deluxe resorts. Every so often we add a night or two at a deluxe and stay concierge level so this would be a nice benefit (albeit an up charge).
 
I didn't pay attention to the date the frozen short would stop playing, so we're waiting for Coco to start with my in laws because it's cheap ticket night and we have to watch it...
 




Pete M said:
what about new futurama episodes... :idea: (a man can dream... a man can dream...)
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I thought the seasons after "The Devils Hands Are Idle Playthings" (i.e. seasons 6 & 7) were substantially worse than seasons 1-5. I feel any solid episodes the later seasons had ("Lethal Inspection", "The Late Philip J. Fry", "The Prisoner of Benda", "Meanwhile") were left over ideas from seasons 1-5, because the poor episodes really outweigh the great ones. I have no basis for this, just what I think.

So while I would love to see more Futurama, it would have to be held to the standards of seasons 1-5, which is a pretty tall order.
 
I may be completely wrong here, so someone correct me if so.

I was under the impression that while Universal has theme park rights to Marvel, since Disney owns Marvel, they get a cute of all park admission and merchandise sold. I assume this would be true for the Simpsons as well. Meaning it hurts Disney even less when people DO choose Universal over them. Could the Simpsons acquisition potentially be used as a bargaining chip to get theme park rights to Marvel?
 
wareagle57 said:
I may be completely wrong here, so someone correct me if so.

I was under the impression that while Universal has theme park rights to Marvel, since Disney owns Marvel, they get a cute of all park admission and merchandise sold. I assume this would be true for the Simpsons as well. Meaning it hurts Disney even less when people DO choose Universal over them. Could the Simpsons acquisition potentially be used as a bargaining chip to get theme park rights to Marvel?
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Disney def. does not get a cut of Universal's admission price. They also don't get any sort of direct kickback on the merch. At best you could argue that if Universal sells a marvel action figure in their giftshop made by Diamond Select, then maybe you could argue Disney made money off that because Diamond Select paid them for the Marvel license.... but it's not like someone spends $20 at Universal and a $1 immediately goes out to Disney. Part of Universal acquiring the Marvel license back in the day was giving Marvel an upfront pay out in exchange for using Marvel characters and such in the parks. If they had to pay a part of their revenue to keep it, they would let it go. In general, that would be a pretty bad deal for them if it went down like that.

The short of it is, the only way Disney financially benefits from Universal's Marvel land is that it potentially gets kids excited about Marvel stuff and in turn maybe they spend more money on marvel things down the road. But as far as actual in-park spending goes, you have to go down a pretty long rabbit hole to be able to attribute any of that cash back to Disney.
 
Marvel's contracts in the late 80s and 90s were atrocious. The company was on the brink for more than a decade and basically took any money they could get for movies, theme parks, and merchandise. Those contracts were highly unfavorable to Marvel, and most of them contained no "closure" clause or end date making it difficult to reclaim the rights after bad movies or languishing merchandise. I highly doubt Disney benefits very much at all from Marvel characters in Universal since those contracts stem from that time period.

When Disney bought Universal they knew there were problems with the old contracts, but they were betting on what they could do going forward. With the mid-2000s creation of Marvel Studios and the success of the original Ironman movie, Marvel was moving the right direction when Disney stepped in, but it would have been hard to go any further in the wrong direction than Marvel had gone in 80s and 90s. If Disney wants theme park rights to the Marvel characters in Orlando, they are going to have to pay through the nose and negotiate from a period of ridiculous weakness.

Most likely it's not worth it and Disney knew that going in and is much more accepting of the problem than Disney fans are.
 
eXo said:
Disney def. does not get a cut of Universal's admission price. They also don't get any sort of direct kickback on the merch. At best you could argue that if Universal sells a marvel action figure in their giftshop made by Diamond Select, then maybe you could argue Disney made money off that because Diamond Select paid them for the Marvel license.... but it's not like someone spends $20 at Universal and a $1 immediately goes out to Disney. Part of Universal acquiring the Marvel license back in the day was giving Marvel an upfront pay out in exchange for using Marvel characters and such in the parks. If they had to pay a part of their revenue to keep it, they would let it go. In general, that would be a pretty bad deal for them if it went down like that.

The short of it is, the only way Disney financially benefits from Universal's Marvel land is that it potentially gets kids excited about Marvel stuff and in turn maybe they spend more money on marvel things down the road. But as far as actual in-park spending goes, you have to go down a pretty long rabbit hole to be able to attribute any of that cash back to Disney.
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Disney/Marvel does get to see and okay any sort of further attraction development though.
 
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saskdw said:
Dec. 8th is showing 77 for a high.

That's too cold?

That's tanning weather!
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I think it is more the Low than the High that is the issue and I am seeing on the 8th the low is 50 and the 9th it is 43 - which is pretty cold for Orlando ....

... only thing, I am seeing then for the 10th a low of 41 and and in the 40s for basically the rest of the week, so wonder if they will extend the closures
 
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