Disney Resorts to start charging parking fees....

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As someone who stays on-site and off-site, this will make me rethink my on-site trips and spend more time off-site. My trip last month was to the Beach Club and the Mickey Waffles server were cold. My trip one month prior to that was off-site with free hot Mickey Waffles. Eliminating on-site perks leaves little reason to stay on-site.
 
I decided to get an AP pass this January when my face was strapped to CT scanner via a mask of my face getting radiation treatment for a cancerous tumor on my scalp. I had to do 5 days a week for 6 weeks to help lower my cancer from coming back. I found out about the cancer a couple weeks before my Disney trip last September. Had surgery two days after coming back. So I thought returning to WDW after being done with treatment would be way to celebrate.

Have a trip at Pop booked end April already was going to book bounce back for end of September. I live in Atlanta. Flying vs Driving is about same time but I don’t really like to fly. Last year I stayed at AKL used car 3 times to go to TL, DS, BB because bus transportation stinks to those places. I decided not to drive for ADR to Cape May because parking was problematic there. It took a hour plus to get back via DS because Epcot and HS where closed when finished. I didn’t use my car to go spend money outside of Disney. I used it to spend more money in Disney.

This parking charge has left me infuriated for 2 days. I have inquired about DVC rentals, began looking at offsite. I rather give $2000 and pay to park at Dolphin than give Disney more money.
 
I agree. Just adding $24 a night to a week long stay is not cheap and needs to be evaluated with planning costs. My room at Bay Lake Tower is more expensive than a room at the Four Seasons. It'll probably be my last stay on property for a while. I just don't understand why they didn't just increase the prices of their hotels. People expect those to go up and wouldn't have complained at all, but doing it this way makes the charge in your face and a ton of people are complaining to them


They actually did increase the current hotel rates just a few weeks ago. GaDisneyDad14 posted about it. And that was the first time in 25 years of trips that I ever remember them increasing the hotel rates during the year. I checked the rates for the rooms at YC & GF we have booked for September. The rates increased around $18 -24 per night if I remember correctly. Now we fly & don't rent a car, so this will not affect us. But anyone who drives & books next week will pay $ 32 - 48 more per night than if they had just booked a few weeks ago. Crazy.
 
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They actually did increase he current hotel rates just a few weeks ago. GaDisneyDad14 posted about it. And that was the first time in 25 years of trips that I ever remember them increasing the hotel rates during the year. I checked the rates for the rooms at YC & GF we have booked for September. The rates increase around $18 -24 per night if I remember correctly. Now we fly & don't rent a car, so this will not affect us. But anyone who drives & books next week will pay $ 32 - 48 more per night than if they had just booked a few weeks ago. Crazy.
If they would have rolled this into room rates, they would have had to share the profits with TA's and other third parties.
 
Well, Disney room rates fluctuate anyway.

But, this is the first time they have ever increased rack rates during the year. The rack rates for the full year of 2018 were released in June of 2017. Then they raised the rack rates a couple weeks ago. This has never happened before. In the past, once the rack rates were release they did not change.
 
Well, Disney room rates fluctuate anyway. February for me has been higher than other months I've researched.

No, this was not the seasonal rate fluctuation. Normally, in July, Disney would release the rates for the following year, with all the different seasons included. Once they set & released those rates, they did not change. But a few weeks ago, without any announcement, the rates listed were increased. For all the different seasons & at all the resorts. Ex: the exact same dates & room I have booked at the YC CL is now listed at $18 more per night than when I booked it last December. That mid year rate increase has never happened before. Has nothing to do with seasonal rates.
 
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But, this is the first time they have ever increased rack rates during the year. The rack rates for the full year of 2018 were released in June of 2017. Then they raised the rack rates a couple weeks ago. This has never happened before. In the past, once the rack rates were release they did not change.

Okay. I don't go by the rack rates anymore. I would think if there is less availability that Disney would increase room rates. I only book Disney hotels if I see a promotional rate. First we booked using the Sun and Fun rate and then rebooked using AP and booked WL with a great rate because of it. Going forward that AP rate will be less advantageous if we want to have a car which we usually do.
 
But, this is the first time they have ever increased rack rates during the year. The rack rates for the full year of 2018 were released in June of 2017. Then they raised the rack rates a couple weeks ago. This has never happened before. In the past, once the rack rates were release they did not change.
Wow. I didn't realize they raised rack rates for this year a couple of weeks ago?!
 
I wonder if this is MF's theory of if they have been fed this ............. because it clearly doesn't describe the scenario accurately.

- NO one that is driving door to door will now change their plans to fly and rely on Disney transportation. They all drive for a reason.

- Those who rent a car at the airport ... am sure the majority don't do it because they hate the free bus, they do it because they want a car with them to go grocery shop, to go to outlets, to go to other attractions and theme parks, to eat offsite, to drive to other resorts to eat (since in house transport for that is bad) and because they want to drive to the parks. They rent because that is their style. Make it even more expensive to stay at Disney, these folks who already venture offsite will not be woo'd by Disney to stay onsite without a car ......... it will encourage them to explore their other options, it will let them make that break to stay at the Universal hotels that are a better value, it will have them looking at bigger nicer offsite options.

It doesn't take a big dollar figure to upset folks enough to make them change their plans .............. it's a mentality that Disney has embraced the last year or so and many of us were just waiting for the final straw. It's kinda funny that "we" and I mean myself, continue to tell ourselves that Disney rooms, while very overpriced, are worth it ............. even though I've stayed offsite enough times to know they aren't. I think ticket prices are very fair, I think the parties and upsells are fine, I wish they'd expand EMM to all the parks ................... but this is just that line that shouldn't have been crossed. 47 years and suddenly that piece of hot asphalt that is more than covered in my room rate .............. is monetized.

- Add it while things are going good .... well, just remember that when things are going bad or slow or not so good ................ the people that were your base, your constant, you coverage of the fixed costs ............. are the people you are now ripping off, and they have other options. Disney, you don't own Orlando anymore, time you realize that. Maybe they should leave the bubble and see what else is out there competing with them. Forget all the resorts and hotels being built ............. UNIVERSAL is going to be clipping your heels in a few years with a couple new parks, many more new hotels AND lots of other small things that will directly attack Disney's current offerings. This is not the time to encourage folks to stay offsite, explore their options and wake up to what else is out there.




The folks who are being impacted by this are folks with cars who are already driving to and from and around Disney. They already know what is out there, they already know what the roads look like. They are not going to "not" get a car because of the parking fee.

It's not the amount of the fee that is solely having people look at options ... it's the last straw that is now an additional inflation of room rate. The room rates stopped the seasonal, when they went seasonal/weeknight/weekend and now they have even added Sunday and Thursday to a higher tier. They advertise their lowest price each night but then when you actually book you find your room costs much more. Many have tired of the evolving changes .... less EMH, more & more crowded buses, poor housekeeping particularly at the lower tier hotels as we are sure their hotel shortage is being managed there to keep housekeeping at the deluxe, the addition of dogs, security invasions ......... this was a last straw, not a solely. It's like I finally have permission to stop paying them more than they are worth.

And I don't think they/we are trading for any convenience if they stay in proximity. Again, I am in my bed at my offsite options at the end of the night before I ever get on a bus for POP. The only truly convenient hotels are the monorail resorts and the Epcot resorts and even they have flaws such a being forced to ride two monorails to get to Epcot or having a long walk or long boat ride to DHS. Overall the rest of the resorts are not convenient at all to parks when you depend on buses or small boats. BUT for someone with no car of course it is still a convenience, other than Disney Springs or Bonnet Creek area, I would not stay offsite without a car.

Disney convenience "perks" - I don't get the DDP anymore because it has no dollar for dollar value and it's no more convenient than me using my CC. Actually less because I have to eat by their rules and keep track of my credits. I can eat better for less by paying OOP. Ship to resort, what a pain to have to keep going to gift shop to get my things and have messages on my phone - when I shop I send it to the front of the park and pick it up on the way out. FP+ - we have no problems even day of except for FOP and 7DMT. EMH ........... so few and far between that when you go they are just as crowded as normal hours because there is no disbursement of guests to other parks. MagicBands - have plenty and even then I wear my specialty ones I bought. So ..... no perks for all that money, and more and more folks come on here to complain about what they thought they were getting vs what they actually got.

Currently Magical Express is a perk, for those who fly and have no interest in having a car. That will not change. What will change is those who have cars because they want cars ... and now that last straw has folks at a point to see how much nicer their hotel/lodging can be if they look offsite.

There are some resorts out there that shine huge over Disney, there are hotels out there with same rates that are leaps and bounds way better than Disney. Driving my own car to parking lot ready to go when I am VS waiting for a bus that will possibly/probably be crowded leaving me standing and eating up maybe 4 times more time .... is not a negative, and it is actually a convenience. I understand that for you, offsite is not an option. That is okay, everyone should do what is best for them. But I would never presume that people would be disappointed just because I would be.

These are all really good points and I totally agree with you. I do think more people rent cars because of the horrible bus system. I know my family does. I think less people with cars leave the property than people think they do. Most that leave the parking lot do so to avoid the long waits of the Disney transportation system; including the magical express. If I am getting groceries I do it on the way to the park not while I am there. If I was planning a trip that included going to Universal how I get there wouldn't be affected by whether or not I had a car. I can easily use a car service.

I do think this decision will bite Disney in the behind eventually. They are currently riding high and feel they can do anything and people will still come. I have worked for companies that are short sited like this. They are now out of business. These record crowds will last through Star Wars and their Anniversary but after that more people will stop coming because they did their "once in a lifetime" trip and can't afford it anymore. The discounts will be back to fill rooms and that is when I will go back to Disney. My DH and I wanted to go after Star Wars opened but now we won't because of all of the price increases. The parking fees and the extra room rate increase in February was the last straw for us.

Thanks for your post it is a well thought out argument.:cool1:
 
Honestly, this reminds me of my dad. My dad is a lifelong New York Mets fan (as am I). However, Mets parking fees have gone up to an absurd level. After the last price increase, my dad swore that he was done attending Mets games- and he was. Public transportation is too hard for him at his age and he isn't going to pay the fee. He hasn't attended another one since, even when I begged him. What does this mean?

There WILL be a breaking point for Disney. People hate being nickeled and dimed, especially on things that seem like they should be included in the already high costs being paid, like parking. Every time Disney makes a decision like this, they lose people. Sure, in the short term, they have more money. But it is an incredibly short-sighted move. Nostalgia sells Disney vacations. If my dad had decided to stop supporting the Mets 15 years ago, then I wouldn't be a Mets fan today. Those people disheartened by Disney now who are going to choose other vacation destinations may raise kids who don't see the appeal of WDW.

I am not all the way through this thread and have so far seen a number of responses I agree with, but I feel this one sums it up the best. Part of the problem I feel like is they are not thinking 5-, 10-years or even longer down the road. They want the revenue NOW!!!
 
Yup. Surprised everyone around here as it was a first. I've seen anywhere from $14 - $29 per night.
Wow again! I was worried about modifying my days after March 21st and having to pay parking. Now I realize I'm going to have to pay an extra couple hundred dollars in resort fees if I need to add or delete a day. :crazy2:
 
The folks who are being impacted by this are folks with cars who are already driving to and from and around Disney. They already know what is out there, they already know what the roads look like. They are not going to "not" get a car because of the parking fee.

It's not the amount of the fee that is solely having people look at options ... it's the last straw that is now an additional inflation of room rate. The room rates stopped the seasonal, when they went seasonal/weeknight/weekend and now they have even added Sunday and Thursday to a higher tier. They advertise their lowest price each night but then when you actually book you find your room costs much more. Many have tired of the evolving changes .... less EMH, more & more crowded buses, poor housekeeping particularly at the lower tier hotels as we are sure their hotel shortage is being managed there to keep housekeeping at the deluxe, the addition of dogs, security invasions ......... this was a last straw, not a solely. It's like I finally have permission to stop paying them more than they are worth.

And I don't think they/we are trading for any convenience if they stay in proximity. Again, I am in my bed at my offsite options at the end of the night before I ever get on a bus for POP. The only truly convenient hotels are the monorail resorts and the Epcot resorts and even they have flaws such a being forced to ride two monorails to get to Epcot or having a long walk or long boat ride to DHS. Overall the rest of the resorts are not convenient at all to parks when you depend on buses or small boats. BUT for someone with no car of course it is still a convenience, other than Disney Springs or Bonnet Creek area, I would not stay offsite without a car.

Disney convenience "perks" - I don't get the DDP anymore because it has no dollar for dollar value and it's no more convenient than me using my CC. Actually less because I have to eat by their rules and keep track of my credits. I can eat better for less by paying OOP. Ship to resort, what a pain to have to keep going to gift shop to get my things and have messages on my phone - when I shop I send it to the front of the park and pick it up on the way out. FP+ - we have no problems even day of except for FOP and 7DMT. EMH ........... so few and far between that when you go they are just as crowded as normal hours because there is no disbursement of guests to other parks. MagicBands - have plenty and even then I wear my specialty ones I bought. So ..... no perks for all that money, and more and more folks come on here to complain about what they thought they were getting vs what they actually got.

Currently Magical Express is a perk, for those who fly and have no interest in having a car. That will not change. What will change is those who have cars because they want cars ... and now that last straw has folks at a point to see how much nicer their hotel/lodging can be if they look offsite.

There are some resorts out there that shine huge over Disney, there are hotels out there with same rates that are leaps and bounds way better than Disney. Driving my own car to parking lot ready to go when I am VS waiting for a bus that will possibly/probably be crowded leaving me standing and eating up maybe 4 times more time .... is not a negative, and it is actually a convenience. I understand that for you, offsite is not an option. That is okay, everyone should do what is best for them. But I would never presume that people would be disappointed just because I would be.

Again, the perks and convenience of Disney resorts are different for everybody. We could sit here and debate that all day but it's a very personal decision depending on how each person's family travels. It is what it is. I'm just saying that off-site is not always the answer or saving grace for everyone. While it works perfectly for one, there may still be cons of it for another. Same for staying on-site.

And FWIW, I've seen several people since this announcement was made say "that's it, I'm switching to off-site"... so my comment was specifically directed at those kind of people. Not the ones who have been weighing the options of on vs off. While its true that the Disney changes may have been building and building and this was the last straw, those same people once saw some kind of value in staying on-site which is why I think looking at both pictures in their entirety is important. That's all.
 
At the resorts, yes, but the previous poster was talking about the expense of parking at the parks as an offset to the savings of staying offsite/avoiding parking fees. And AP holders don't pay for parking at the theme parks. That's the main reason I'm leaning offsite for our Jan trip (prob. not for Sept, because that's free dining season and we'll probably be flying) - because I can get a better room, cheaper, and still don't have to pay for parking on our park days. Of course, the loss there is in having to decide who is going to skip the drinks to drive back to the resort, but even Uber to the parks every day would be cheaper than the resort parking fee. I stayed at POFQ for a conference at the World Center Marriott and paid $6-8 each way to get to/from the conference sessions; from Bonnet Creek or a Disney Springs hotel should be even less.
They asked "Has anyone gotten any word if annual passholders receive free parking at resorts?" which is what I replied to. Not sure about a previous poster (too many replies going on quickly here), just replying to the person asking if APs are going to have to pay to park at the resorts.
 
This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard of. $19 at a moderate? My daughter lives in California and says we should visit DL instead and stay just offsite where there is free parking. I have never paid to park at a hotel in my life. Are they going to change my oil, rotate my tires or wash my car for that fee? I am frankly paying enough now!! (or more)
 
They actually did increase the current hotel rates just a few weeks ago. GaDisneyDad14 posted about it. And that was the first time in 25 years of trips that I ever remember them increasing the hotel rates during the year. I checked the rates for the rooms at YC & GF we have booked for September. The rates increased around $18 -24 per night if I remember correctly. Now we fly & don't rent a car, so this will not affect us. But anyone who drives & books next week will pay $ 32 - 48 more per night than if they had just booked a few weeks ago. Crazy.
I just feel like they don't care. They know people are upset, but people will still book. And the amount they are charging is crazy already so they won't really notice a dip in sales. Since my trips for the year are already booked I'll be grandfathered into not paying, but after that I'm definitely looking elsewhere.
 
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