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I can't wait for the end of the month. I have no current MSR & feel lost in the woods :guilty:


I really liked the resort tour videos. He seems like a fun person. I can never decide whether or not I actually like his channel in general. It's strange because he spends so much time in the parks & yet always has this aura of confusion, as though he never really knows what's going on. I find it frustrating. I don't know how to explain it. I don't watch his personal videos so that could also just be how he is in life. Still, if you're looking for a recent vlog & you're at all familiar with the parks, you can watch his channel and get what you need to on your own. I also enjoyed his Aulani & ABD Disneyland videos. Those were really fun to watch. I think it's just the WDW ones that make me think, "you should know that!!!" :laughing:

I only watched the DCL one and just couldn't get through it. So much talking, and so much misinformation. I guess I'm not the target audience. I do have friends who love him.
 
Same for me. CSP and CSR annual fees hit and the statement for the CSR doesn’t close until the 21st. We have 30 days to cancel/product change and get it refunded, right?
I was thinking I’d use the travel credit for Disneyland tickets through undercover tourist. We plan on visiting 9/27-9/28. Since DL doesn’t have advanced FP, would there be any issue with buying the tickets so close to our trip?
Yes, it seems you have 30 days for the full refund and then after that it is prorated with Chase. I believe @wendow was actually able to PC past 30 days and get a full refund on a Chase card?

I don't see any issue in waiting that long! One of nice and unique things about DL compared to WDW. :thumbsup2
 
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@wendow AP upgrade question. If I get WDW tickets through Delta and go to upgrade is it best to buy the 10 day tix as that would be the least amount due at upgrading (even though we likely wouldn’t need all 10 days the first trip)? If the tickets are flex do I get that added value to the bridge or do I eat that extra cost (it’s like $500 more but the only option with delta vacations)?
@kidsfirsttrip I also just purchased WDW tickets through Delta and I'm hoping to upgrade them. I'm going in January 2020--if you go before, please let me know what your experience is. I'm curious if they are upgradable at all, and if so, whether we can get some credit if we paid in excess of the upgraded ticket value. Thanks!
 
I want the coaster set and was debating if I should make the effort to hit EP on 4 days during my Sept trip or grab that last day on my Nov trip- definitely not waiting until Nov now if they run out of things as simple as magnets!
I would also get the coasters if you can in September, but I do not believe the cutting boards ever ran out last year. I think Simba was only released to draw AP holders away from SWGE's opening so only a small amount were actually produced. These magnets are usually handed out like candy and well past the "dates" listed until they are all gone.
 
Little help needed, three months out from our first on site and we have a package being delivered tomorrow from Disney. I'm I correct in assuming this is our ME tags?
DME paperwork and tags usually only come about 30 days prior to arrival. Did you do the upgraded MBs? Those ship immediately. Free ones ship at 30 days out.
 
I love the Tim tracker. He is in my top 5 YouTube channels. The other four: Dope or Nope (this is like fart humor and they are immature but I crack up at their reviews of products) Mark Rober (he’s a cutie and does all kinds of cool engineering/science experiments/projects) The bucket list family (they are life goals I want to take my kids all over the world like they do) and Not another cooking show (Italian New Yorker who makes a bunch of delicious food SO and I have been copying his stuff and it’s so good and easy)
I have only actually seen a few of Tim Tracker's videos, but I was recently pulled into Happiest Vlogs on Earth. They gave a very comprehensive overview of a Riviera model and I may have watched EVERY. SINGLE. VIDEO. they have ever uploaded since finding that one 😂 They also love VGF and there are a ton of room tours on that subject. I may be biased :cloud9:

P.S. (They also like the Grand Californian 😉)
 
If you have a cash reservation on SW and want to change it to a more expensive time, can you use points to cover the difference? I have never encountered this type of issue and I am curious before I attempt anything. LOL
 
- We number our cards based on applying for, or approved, not open at the same time. For now, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your CIPs open, PC them, or close them before going for another. I believe 3 sips is still the most taken here, some are considering 4; but on r/churning, some of the heavy hitters have gone for 5 or 6. You can certainly hold up to 5 or 6 Chase biz cards at a time, but whether it's a good idea to risk opening only CIPs with all those slots is something you should seriously consider. While the CIP does have the highest SUB that makes it very attractive to keep going back to, how many of the same card do you need before it starts to look abusive and Chase shuts you down?

You can diversify your business card portfolio with other Ink cards like the CIC and CIU. Both have "only" 50k UR SUBs, but they have no AF, and have useful bonus categories, especially the CIC with 5x UR at office supply stores if you ever want to consider MS. You could maximize getting bonuses on the other Ink cards by getting the CIC (no support link) for 50k UR SUB, then using the CIC to generate a support link (worth 15k UR) to the CIU for its 50k UR SUB. But before you apply for the CIC or CIU by itself, consider whether you'd maybe want to go for CIP3 for a combined 100k UR (instead of the CIC's only 50k UR SUB, then PC down CIP1 to a CIC in a year, then use the CIC to self-support to a CIU. Again, we don't know whether Chase will come down on self-supportal like Amex, but you do what you can with P1 mode for now.

If you follow our conservative recommendation to space out your Chase apps by 3 months, that's only 4 Chase cards a year. You could do all biz cards, and like I've said there's no hard limit to how many Chase will approve you for. But by the time you get to 3 or 4 Chase biz cards, your odds of approval start getting shaky, not necessarily because of the number of biz cards you have open, but because of the amount of credit line extended to you relative to your business revenue and household income. Chase doesn't want to extend you too much credit (>50% of your household income), and biz card credit limits tend to be lower than personal card limits. So as you open more cards, and Chase keeps approving more credit for you, you may notice the credit limits they approve you for start getting lower. That's why we recommend proactively lowering your credit limits before applying for more Chase biz cards, to increase your odds of approval. But, if you plan to PC a CIP to a CIC later on, then you need to keep at least a $5k CL on that CIP you intend to PC, or have enough credit from other Chase biz cards to move to that CIP you intend to PC to get it up to $5k.

You absolutely should not close any Chase card before you've held it for a year. We recommend just letting the AF post (typically on the 1st day of your 13th month holding the card), and then sending an SM to Chase to request they close or PC the card, and that AF charge will be refunded.

- Chase biz card apps are typically viewed as "harder" to get approved for because most apps go pending before eventually getting approved. Most report getting instant approval on Chase personal cards, and much higher credit limits on personal cards than on Chase biz cards. If you follow our recommendations regarding velocity and credit limits, and are under 5/24, you'll almost certainly get approved for a CIP. If for some reason you don't get approved, you could apply for a Chase personal card immediately or soon after. That's because while Chase biz cards require you to have had no other Chase apps in the last 30 days, approval of a Chase personal card allows for 2 Chase apps/approvals in the last 30 days. So a failed CIP app in the past 30 days won't hurt you going for a Chase personal card within that 30 day timeframe. However, all the other factors like <5/24, <50% household income, velocity, still matter.

- Chase must-haves and good to have: You already have the Chase Freedom for the 5x UR quarterly bonus categories. CSR for the 1.5x redemption on the Chase UR portal. Consider doing a MDD of the CSR with the CSP because you'll be locked out of another Sapphire card bonus for 48+ months. Chase Hyatt card - Hyatt points are very valuable for redeeming award nights, you get a Cat 1-4 free night certificate every anniversary and can earn another Cat 1-4 free night cert by putting $15k spend on it a year, and you get a basic Discoverist elite status. Chase United Explorer card - if you fly United or its an option for you, miles have been devalued but you can still find some deals here and there, the AF is waived the first year and you can PC to a no fee card after that, just holding the card gives you access to expanded economy award availability and a 25% bonus on miles earned on the MPX gift card app. If you fly Southwest or that's an option to you, then definitely some combination of the SW Plus/Premier Priority personal cards and the SW Premier/Performance biz cards to earn Rapid Rewards points and the Companion Pass so your companion flies free with you.
We have the bandwidth for a new card, tryi

What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2. I am looking into applying for CIP myself, but other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).
- We number our cards based on applying for, or approved, not open at the same time. For now, it doesn't seem to matter if you keep your CIPs open, PC them, or close them before going for another. I believe 3 sips is still the most taken here, some are considering 4; but on r/churning, some of the heavy hitters have gone for 5 or 6. You can certainly hold up to 5 or 6 Chase biz cards at a time, but whether it's a good idea to risk opening only CIPs with all those slots is something you should seriously consider. While the CIP does have the highest SUB that makes it very attractive to keep going back to, how many of the same card do you need before it starts to look abusive and Chase shuts you down?

You can diversify your business card portfolio with other Ink cards like the CIC and CIU. Both have "only" 50k UR SUBs, but they have no AF, and have useful bonus categories, especially the CIC with 5x UR at office supply stores if you ever want to consider MS. You could maximize getting bonuses on the other Ink cards by getting the CIC (no support link) for 50k UR SUB, then using the CIC to generate a support link (worth 15k UR) to the CIU for its 50k UR SUB. But before you apply for the CIC or CIU by itself, consider whether you'd maybe want to go for CIP3 for a combined 100k UR (instead of the CIC's only 50k UR SUB, then PC down CIP1 to a CIC in a year, then use the CIC to self-support to a CIU. Again, we don't know whether Chase will come down on self-supportal like Amex, but you do what you can with P1 mode for now.

If you follow our conservative recommendation to space out your Chase apps by 3 months, that's only 4 Chase cards a year. You could do all biz cards, and like I've said there's no hard limit to how many Chase will approve you for. But by the time you get to 3 or 4 Chase biz cards, your odds of approval start getting shaky, not necessarily because of the number of biz cards you have open, but because of the amount of credit line extended to you relative to your business revenue and household income. Chase doesn't want to extend you too much credit (>50% of your household income), and biz card credit limits tend to be lower than personal card limits. So as you open more cards, and Chase keeps approving more credit for you, you may notice the credit limits they approve you for start getting lower. That's why we recommend proactively lowering your credit limits before applying for more Chase biz cards, to increase your odds of approval. But, if you plan to PC a CIP to a CIC later on, then you need to keep at least a $5k CL on that CIP you intend to PC, or have enough credit from other Chase biz cards to move to that CIP you intend to PC to get it up to $5k.

You absolutely should not close any Chase card before you've held it for a year. We recommend just letting the AF post (typically on the 1st day of your 13th month holding the card), and then sending an SM to Chase to request they close or PC the card, and that AF charge will be refunded.

- Chase biz card apps are typically viewed as "harder" to get approved for because most apps go pending before eventually getting approved. Most report getting instant approval on Chase personal cards, and much higher credit limits on personal cards than on Chase biz cards. If you follow our recommendations regarding velocity and credit limits, and are under 5/24, you'll almost certainly get approved for a CIP. If for some reason you don't get approved, you could apply for a Chase personal card immediately or soon after. That's because while Chase biz cards require you to have had no other Chase apps in the last 30 days, approval of a Chase personal card allows for 2 Chase apps/approvals in the last 30 days. So a failed CIP app in the past 30 days won't hurt you going for a Chase personal card within that 30 day timeframe. However, all the other factors like <5/24, <50% household income, velocity, still matter.

- Chase must-haves and good to have: You already have the Chase Freedom for the 5x UR quarterly bonus categories. CSR for the 1.5x redemption on the Chase UR portal. Consider doing a MDD of the CSR with the CSP because you'll be locked out of another Sapphire card bonus for 48+ months. Chase Hyatt card - Hyatt points are very valuable for redeeming award nights, you get a Cat 1-4 free night certificate every anniversary and can earn another Cat 1-4 free night cert by putting $15k spend on it a year, and you get a basic Discoverist elite status. Chase United Explorer card - if you fly United or its an option for you, miles have been devalued but you can still find some deals here and there, the AF is waived the first year and you can PC to a no fee card after that, just holding the card gives you access to expanded economy award availability and a 25% bonus on miles earned on the MPX gift card app. If you fly Southwest or that's an option to you, then definitely some combination of the SW Plus/Premier Priority personal cards and the SW Premier/Performance biz cards to earn Rapid Rewards points and the Companion Pass so your companion flies free with you.

What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? I've seen recomendation to just apply as a sole proprietor and use your SSN, but that seems too easy!

DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2, so I am looking into applying for CIP myself. Other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).
 
We have the bandwidth for a new card, tryi

What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2. I am looking into applying for CIP myself, but other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).


What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? I've seen recomendation to just apply as a sole proprietor and use your SSN, but that seems too easy!

DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2, so I am looking into applying for CIP myself. Other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).

Chase business cards are fine without a real business. Anything you do on the side (selling items on eBay, Poshmark, tutoring, what we call “businesses”) will usually be just fine. The key is unless you have an EIN and a legitimate business name (such as LLC, etc) you want to list your business as a Sole Proprietorship, with the applicant as the owner and for business name use the applicants name (first and last, middle name or initial is optional) exactly as it appears on government issued ID (drivers license or SSN card for example).

I normally list revenue around $1000 and years in business as 1-1.5 years although many list lower than that and are approved.

You’ll also use the applicants SSN on the application.

For Chase every 90 days is preferable to spread applications.
 
We have the bandwidth for a new card, tryi

What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2. I am looking into applying for CIP myself, but other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).


What do you need to do to set up a business that would be recognized by Chase? I've seen recomendation to just apply as a sole proprietor and use your SSN, but that seems too easy!

DH has a legitimate side business, but is a more reluctant P2, so I am looking into applying for CIP myself. Other than some FB marketplace sales, I don't have much of a side business. I am 4/24 so I would like to hold off on another personal card for myself in case DH has issues with the SW CP plan below and I "need" to apply for that in a few months.

Alternatively I can have DH apply for CIP. I plan to have him open a personal and a business SW card in Dec/Jan to get the CP (he is 1/24 personal and 1/24 business), so I don;t want to do a CIP for him now if it would make it harder to get the SW (we have 2020 travel plans for the CP, so that is a priority).
Good news! You have a business with FB side hustle. You just use your name as the business name and your SSN, sole proprietor in place of the EIN, put your estimated sales and then use your total household income when it asks.

We are here to walk you through it! Many of us have side gigs.
 
I searched this thread looking for an answer, but I'm still a little lost. My DH and I each have had our own SW Premier card for over two years. We would both like to upgrade to the SW Priority card. Are we eligible for the big bonus point offers, or are we ineligible because we are current card holders? Would we have to cancel the Premier accounts beforehand? Would we be better off just upgrading our Premier card account to the Priority card and just getting the 5,000 bonus point offer?
 
Good news! You have a business with FB side hustle. You just use your name as the business name and your SSN, sole proprietor in place of the EIN, put your estimated sales and then use your total household income when it asks.

We are here to walk you through it! Many of us have side gigs.
Thanks, both! DH and I are going to sit down and plan out our next steps tonight. We are slow-churners, but I have been talking my BIL through options for him and his business this weekend, so I have new cards on the mind!!!
 
DH's CIP bonus is pending! I don't know whether to be happy that we have more URs on the way or sad that we spent over $5,000 in a week :upsidedow . At least we have a washer now (we even got a small discount because it was slightly dented on the side) and a dryer arriving tomorrow!

Re:Tim Tracker...I am a big fan, although I definitely prefer his videos that are focused on the parks and resorts and I tend to skip the vlogs about their daily lives around Orlando. I like to put it on while I'm doing dishes and such and come here or to EasyWDW for nitty-gritty touring details. The style of their vlogs makes me feel like I am hanging out with them as they walk around the parks and makes the days go by faster until our next trip :)
 
I went from out of state. Chose uva over UPenn. Do you mean how hard it is to get into or the cost?

Yes to both.


Well it’s a nice place to visit, anyway.
I learned so much about the college applications process last year-mostly that it is freaking crazy and nothing like when I did it...if I knew then what I know now DD (I) would have saved so much on applications. :(
Yes, the college application is truly a kind of crazy all it's own (partly because of how insanely expensive it has become). With four kids, I fell like I became a kind of expert by the end, although none of my kids were hard-core science and none played sports, so that made the process pretty similar for all of them. I actually only regret a few application fees, and by the last kid I was insisting that he send in more applications because I wanted to make sure he had more than one good option at the end.

After doing this 2 other times with DDs I seriously offered DS $5000 to only apply to our state school. Unfortunately, he is not taking me up on it. Lol I limited the other to 5 apps only. Well, 6 if you count our home university, as that one was free. Between the application, sending scores if needed, and the CSS profile, also don’t get me started on paying to apply for financial aid, grrrr I truly detest College Board, at about $100 per app 5 was just my limit. With great extra curriculars, almost perfect grades and test scores the tears at rejection is something I could do with out again. I tried to give my guidance and opinion on where they should or should not apply, but they don’t listen to me and I let them do the picking. DS I’m afraid is heading down the same path of rejections with his picks so far. I can’t wait for this part to be done already.
 
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