Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Disney took FP+ reservations and ADRs for all of June and the rest of the year (even after they announced the reopening) but canceled them all. Am I saying it’s definitely going to happen? No (I really hope it doesn’t), but the public narrative surrounding COVID-19 and Florida has shifted drastically since Monday. Anything can be undone; nothing is certain right now.

Disney will never close stateside. Disney will never close longer than 2 weeks. Disney will never open reservations and a free dining offer June 1 and not open. Disney will never let Universal operate for the entire month of June without opening too.

Things are more likely and less likely, but nothing is impossible IMO.
 
As long as public perception continues to favor reopening they'll stay on track. It wasn't till the NBA shutdown in March that businesses really started pumping the breaks. When or if the masses start looking at the operation of theme parks during a pandemic as irresponsible it may lead to likelihood of closure.
There is already been some notable pushback, sparked mostly by DL’s delay. As I’ve said before, if WDW’s reopening is postponed (again, not saying that’s going to happen for sure), it would (in my opinion) have a lot to do with them jumping the gun on the DL reopening announcement.
 
As long as public perception continues to favor reopening they'll stay on track. It wasn't till the NBA shutdown in March that businesses really started pumping the breaks. When or if the masses start looking at the operation of theme parks during a pandemic as irresponsible it may lead to likelihood of closure.

Truer words were never spoken:)...but as we've seen, public perception can and has changed on a dime...MULTIPLE times this year...
 
Disney took FP+ reservations and ADRs for all of June and the rest of the year, but canceled them all. Am I saying it’s definitely going to happen? No (I really hope it doesn’t), but the public narrative surrounding COVID-19 and Florida has shifted drastically since Monday. Anything can be undone; nothing is certain right now.

FP+ and ADR’s are much different than this situation. If they delay the opening, this is now the 3rd time that Disney has basically invited their guests down, and then said “Nope, Nevermind. Hope you can get your money back for those flights”. Sure, things have gotten worse since Monday, but wasnt that obvious because of what was happening last week? They weren’t going to go from 5 cases to 5,000 overnight. Its a gradual increase. Even if the numbers are intense to look at, if you were paying attention, you knew it was coming.

A Hurricane for instance. Let’s say the meteorologists say a Hurricane has its sights set on Florida and should touch down next week. People dont ignore that for the next week and then act surprised when you’re told to seek cover the day the Hurricane is about to hit. Some do. But those are the same people that I’m talking about that saw the increases last week and expected different results this week
 
Disney will never close stateside. Disney will never close longer than 2 weeks. Disney will never open reservations and a free dining offer June 1 and not open. Disney will never let Universal operate for the entire month of June without opening too.

Things are more likely and less likely, but nothing is impossible IMO.


Impossible things are happening every day!
 
Gloves are tough to use properly. Putting on a pair of gloves in the morning and keeping them on all day does nothing.

Au contraire - my hands have never looked better.

And what we do know for sure is a mask does not increase your chances of catching the virus. Edited to add: Of course, one has to use a mask properly. If you choose to stick your mask in your mouth after wearing, all bets are off. Oh and don’t use them to blow your nose either.

There goes my idea for edible masks.

As for WDW postponing the open, I personally don't see it. But I will say that those 1st 4 days where it's just MK & AK would be the ones I could see not happening.
 
FP+ and ADR’s are much different than this situation. If they delay the opening, this is now the 3rd time that Disney has basically invited their guests down, and then said “Nope, Nevermind. Hope you can get your money back for those flights”. Sure, things have gotten worse since Monday, but wasnt that obvious because of what was happening last week? They weren’t going to go from 5 cases to 5,000 overnight. Its a gradual increase. Even if the numbers are intense to look at, if you were paying attention, you knew it was coming.

A Hurricane for instance. Let’s say the meteorologists say a Hurricane has its sights set on Florida and should touch down next week. People dont ignore that for the next week and then act surprised when you’re told to seek cover the day the Hurricane is about to hit. Some do. But those are the same people that I’m talking about that saw the increases last week and expected different results this week

I don't think anyone saw almost a doubling of cases and positivity rate coming... I think you are underselling that a bit.

To me that's like seeing a storm about a week away that they are saying has the potential to become a Tropical storm becoming a Cat 3 and instead of hitting up north it steers right for Central FL.....

But maybe by in a few days, just like hurricanes, a positive shift happens? That's what I'm hoping for....
 
I think the opposite. The closer we get, the more unlikely they delay. Why open the reservation system this week? It’s not like Disney saw the rising cases early last week and thought that it would just disappear. They knew that it was about to get bad. It would have been much easier if they delayed the parks reservation system by a week and then reevaluate. They didn’t do they. They could have paused the system. They haven’t done that.
Universal hasn’t budged an inch. I don’t expect Disney will either. Too many wheels have been moving forward to put the train in reverse

At least in Disney‘s case, the management level that makes these decisions plays it all very close to their chest. They (perhaps justifiably so) understand that trickling down things to the operations level that would have to implement things like delays to the reservation system gets everyone talking... a lot.

This community has already witnessed what the execs would view as over-dissemination to the ranks manifest itself as “confusion,” one hand not knowing what the other is doing, etc. Having guests continue to plan unfortunately is not sufficient evidence to rule out a delay, poor guest service not withstanding.
 
I don't think anyone saw almost a doubling of cases and positivity rate coming... I think you are underselling that a bit.

To me that's like seeing a storm about a week away that they are saying has the potential to become a Tropical storm becoming a Cat 3 and instead of hitting up north it steers right for Central FL.....

But maybe by in a few days, just like hurricanes, a positive shift happens? That's what I'm hoping for....

I really do think Disney has a lot of measures put into place so they could remain open through a 2nd (3rd, continuous, whatever) wave.

Whether they expected it to explode like this before they opened, who knows, but I think they may be more prepared than we know for numbers to explode at some point.
 
I really do think Disney has a lot of measures put into place so they could remain open through a 2nd (3rd, continuous, whatever) wave.

Whether they expected it to explode like this before they opened, who knows, but I think they may be more prepared than we know for numbers to explode at some point.

They are extremely smart, and they have the brass to do what is right.

Do I trust them more than other places to enforce rules, yes I do.

I think they can still open, but they must continue to be vigilant in their handling of the opening.

A few bad stories or a CM outbreak would be the worse thing for them, and us...
 
FP+ and ADR’s are much different than this situation. If they delay the opening, this is now the 3rd time that Disney has basically invited their guests down, and then said “Nope, Nevermind. Hope you can get your money back for those flights”. Sure, things have gotten worse since Monday, but wasnt that obvious because of what was happening last week? They weren’t going to go from 5 cases to 5,000 overnight. Its a gradual increase. Even if the numbers are intense to look at, if you were paying attention, you knew it was coming.

A Hurricane for instance. Let’s say the meteorologists say a Hurricane has its sights set on Florida and should touch down next week. People dont ignore that for the next week and then act surprised when you’re told to seek cover the day the Hurricane is about to hit. Some do. But those are the same people that I’m talking about that saw the increases last week and expected different results this week

The truth you speak is on point 👌 always look forward to your responses 👏
 
I don't think anyone saw almost a doubling of cases and positivity rate coming... I think you are underselling that a bit.

To me that's like seeing a storm about a week away that they are saying has the potential to become a Tropical storm becoming a Cat 3 and instead of hitting up north it steers right for Central FL.....

But maybe by in a few days, just like hurricanes, a positive shift happens? That's what I'm hoping for....

I know it was centuries ago, but the same thing happened in the tri-state area back in March/April of the year Two Thousand and Twenty. But it wasnt talked about on the Telly, so I dont blame anyone for not remembering that New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut had sizable increases
 
I know it was centuries ago, but the same thing happened in the tri-state area back in March/April of the year Two Thousand and Twenty. But it wasnt talked about on the Telly, so I dont blame anyone for not remembering that New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut had sizable increases

I don't get the need for snark here....

I thought the reason we shut down was to avoid that.......and then we would gradually reopen and no longer see those spikes.....especially elsewhere.......

Are you saying you genuinely expected to see FL hit 9k cases yesterday with a 13% positivity rate?
 
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