When do you think the border will reopen?

[ilovetotravel1977]

I'd like to work from home forever... that is the one thing about all this I am actually enjoying. The rest? Not so much... but WFH... I love it.

I would like it even more if DH was at work, and DD was at school!

 

[wdwmom3]

I honestly don't think they are going to get the turnout for vaccines even once they are produced. People are going to be more afraid of the vaccine than of the virus by that point.

Hubby and I will be getting it as soon as we can.

 

[Silvermist999]

We had the flexibility before the pandemic to work from home as needed, for appointments etc., but I know most of my staff do not want to be working from home every single day, especially the ones who are single or childless. Both DH and I have been advised by our respective employers that we will be at home indefinitely. Definitely makes it more challenging to get things done since we are both managing staff and it is way more convenient and effective to just walk over to have a quick discussion than using email or scheduling a call.

 

[Donald - my hero]

I honestly don't think they are going to get the turnout for vaccines even once they are produced. People are going to be more afraid of the vaccine than of the virus by that point.

Not me! I'll be lining up, in a chair, wrapped in a sleeping bag if need be! But then again I've been wearing a mask since before it was mandated, I'm all for doing what's best for the community as whole as well as myself. That includes getting vaccinated so i don't contribute to spreading a highly contagious virus.

**ETA, hubby, our daughter & her wife, our son & his wife agree as well! We'll line up and they can stick us all one after another make it a family affair

 

[Silvermist999]

I just read this article on cbc.ca: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-vaccine-tam-1.5673729

Dr. Tam says masks, distancing, etc will be in effect for 2-3 years even with a vaccine! ugh.

This is depressing. I think I can believe that masks and distancing would somehow be our new normal. What I truly despise having to do is having to sanitize the groceries. I used to like grocery shopping, price matching, air miles hunting. Now I hate coming home with the groceries, it’s a half day ordeal. Hate it.

 

[Donald - my hero]

This is depressing. I think I can believe that masks and distancing would somehow be our new normal. What I truly despise having to do is having to sanitize the groceries. I used to like grocery shopping, price matching, air miles hunting. Now I hate coming home with the groceries, it’s a half day ordeal. Hate it.

I agree that it takes longer but I'm not spending an inordinate amount of time cleaning my groceries (not like that one video a dr posted months ago at this point, he was extremely over-the-top IMHO)
Before i head out i make sure i have 3 surfaces cleaned and ready to use when i get home -- make sure the cleaning product is safe for food surfaces! -- and leave them wet
I'm still buying about 2 weeks worth of food (more if it's on sale) so anything that doesn't need to be used immediately and will be stored at room temp goes onto the clean section of the dining table to sit for several days (aim for 3 at least or until i remember)

Everything else goes on top of the dishwasher and from there it gets wiped down quickly if it's to be used soon and placed on the 3rd clean surface while i finish up.

Food that needs to go in the fridge or freezer, that won't be used within a few days, gets placed inside a clean plastic bag (collected soo many while we couldn't take our own!) I wash my hands first and then use a separate bag as a sort of glove to transfer the items, then stick the bag into the fridge or freezer.

I make sure to wash my hands really well before i start cooking anything as a final step. I try to remember that it would need to be a perfect storm of events for this to transmit the virus to me -- an infected person would need to either cough/sneeze or breathe directly on the product or touch the product after touching their own face. Then i would need to touch the exact same spot that they graciously deposited the virus on the product and finally i would need to then touch my mouth/nose/eyes to transfer it to myself. Easiest way to stop this is the ever constant hand washing! I think i wash my hands at least 10 times after i get home

 

[mshanson3121]

Totally agree on all points. It’s why I started my thread on other leisure travel. I hadn‘t even considered that we may be in the exact same place two years from now . Sigh.

I know. Friends of ours are in AB and are getting married next summer. DH is supposed to be best man. It will require a full cross-country drive, and if things are still like this next summer, I just don't see it happening.

I believe I read that 32% of people won't get it when it's available? I think that was in Canada. I imagine the US will be worse, so yeah... And that of course is once it's produced in sufficient quantity for more than just essential workers.

I know some are hesitant due to ridiculous conspiracy theories, but I think most have legitimate concerns about safety. To be honest, we probably won't be getting it. We're very much pro-vaccine, but only ones that have been studied sufficiently, which this one won't have, and we're not willing to take the chance considering the other issues we already have. So, we'll do our best to reduce our risk as much as possible. In another couple years, if Covid is still an issue, when we have a bit more data to back it up, then we'll definitely be open to the idea of getting it.

And you're right, even if everyone did get it, it will still take awhile to get it to everyone.

 

[mshanson3121]

This is depressing. I think I can believe that masks and distancing would somehow be our new normal. What I truly despise having to do is having to sanitize the groceries. I used to like grocery shopping, price matching, air miles hunting. Now I hate coming home with the groceries, it’s a half day ordeal. Hate it.

Wasn't sure if you were aware, but they do not recommend wiping down groceries. There isn't a need for it as transmission via that way is next to impossible. All you need to do is wash your hands when done.

 

[vegs1]

Wasn't sure if you were aware, but they do not recommend wiping down groceries. There isn't a need for it as transmission via that way is next to impossible. All you need to do is wash your hands when done.

That’s what we do. Put them in one spot, put them away, dispose of bags, wipe down area they sat and wash our hands. Everything I have seen says no need to sanitize them.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

I wash my hands after I bring in the groceries. Put everything away, and then wash them again. That's it.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

As for the vaccine, by the time the regular population of Canada can get it I'm sure the US will have purchased every dosage available in the world and we can wait and watch to see if any weird symptoms occur.

My sister figures Canadians should see the effects as China, Europe and the US will have vaccines first.

 

[quandrea]

I honestly don't think they are going to get the turnout for vaccines even once they are produced. People are going to be more afraid of the vaccine than of the virus by that point.

My doctor was just telling my husband this yesterday. He doesn’t think there will be many takers.

He did give my dh an mmr booster yesterday to boost his suppressor cells, which help fight the worst complications due to Covid.

 

[gypsy_at_heart]

I honestly don't think they are going to get the turnout for vaccines even once they are produced. People are going to be more afraid of the vaccine than of the virus by that point.

We’ve already been told it’s going to be required to work in my company (senior’s healthcare), we already had to sign off to agree to get the vaccine when it is available. Not that I’m bothered by taking it. Yes, the vaccine is quickly produced but if you look at the studies there really isn’t anything to worry about. You’ll have far more chance of dying of serious complications caused by COVID-19 than anything coming from a vaccine approved by Health Canada. I find it funny that most of the people I’ve met who are not wanting to take the vaccine due to potential side effects are the same people willing to take their chances with catching COVID-19... that just boggles my mind.

As for the border, I can’t see them opening it until the US can gain some sort of control. Who knows how long that will take.

 

[CJK]

My friend's son works in a outlet mall in a northern state in the USA. His boss told him today that the Canadian border will reopen on Aug. 21st, so get prepared for bus loads of Canadians for some cross border shopping! I told my friend that the border closure keeps extending 1 month at a time, and that it's really doubtful this will be true. All signs point to the border not reopening for several months.

 

[Dismrk155]

My friend's son works in a outlet mall in a northern state in the USA. His boss told him today that the Canadian border will reopen on Aug. 21st, so get prepared for bus loads of Canadians for some cross border shopping! I told my friend that the border closure keeps extending 1 month at a time, and that it's really doubtful this will be true. All signs point to the border not reopening for several months.

Lol. Wrong. Are custom and border patrol neighbor told us they had a meeting on Monday and no decision to open border in the near future.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

There will be a vaccine by the time the US controls the virus.

 

[wdwmom3]

There will be a vaccine by the time the US controls the virus.

Well I just heard that the great pumpkin has announced there could be a vaccine by Election Day. So there is your answer lol.

 

[wdwmom3]

We’ve already been told it’s going to be required to work in my company (senior’s healthcare), we already had to sign off to agree to get the vaccine when it is available. Not that I’m bothered by taking it. Yes, the vaccine is quickly produced but if you look at the studies there really isn’t anything to worry about. You’ll have far more chance of dying of serious complications caused by COVID-19 than anything coming from a vaccine approved by Health Canada. I find it funny that most of the people I’ve met who are not wanting to take the vaccine due to potential side effects are the same people willing to take their chances with catching COVID-19... that just boggles my mind.

As for the border, I can’t see them opening it until the US can gain some sort of control. Who knows how long that will take.

We have the same mindset as you. I’m confident in the safety by the time it’s get through all the stages. And I’m more concerned about covid (a known risk) then any rare potential side effect.

 

[Raimiette]

Well I just heard that the great pumpkin has announced there could be a vaccine by Election Day. So there is your answer lol.

Yes, his track record has been so good for accuracy.

 

[ilovetotravel1977]

https://news.paxeditions.com/news/other/us-lifts-global-level-4-health-advisory
Just read this article. I wonder if Canada will lift the level 4 do-not-travel advisory? Maybe that means passport offices will reopen? If it does drop the level 4, does that mean we can no longer cancel flights to the US for credits?