Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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The problem with Fant isn't the crowd size; it's getting people out. The logistical effort/time it would take to coordinate an exit with physical distancing just isn't worth it to them right now. More to the point, Fant costs A LOT of money to run each night. There's a reason that even after the 2008/2009 recession and subsequent tourism dip, Fant was quickly reduced to only showing several nights a week.
Exiting is a real problem, over at the orca show, on a full show, it takes about 15 minutes to completely empty it using social distancing, F! would take forever
 
Finally made it to universal for hhn lite. Did both houses 3 times, only waited 5 minutes twice, the rest were walk ons, surreal not to wait for an hhn house
I went with my DD and we got to talking about the rotr plexiglass on the vehicle's to increase capacity. She brought up an interesting point that increasing capacity for that vehicle is irrelevant when the first one starts the same, i hadn't even thought of that. If they increase bg the line to start the experience will likely get longer since the first vehicle capacity stays the same. Hopefully they're able typ also increase capacity on that one
 
This could have a big impact for theme parks....




And this was perhaps partly why the definition has changed. Personally iv always thought the old definition was nonsense.

Or no impact because as far they’re concerned- and have shouted to the world- no outbreaks have been traced back to them at all. No reason to change their ops or just abandon it all because the CDC has a new observation.
 
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Yes masks are required, except for indoor dining... and disneys bonkers indoor mask relaxation zones.
Honestly- They aren’t shutting down indoor dining because of this. CDC is just not that influential. Everyone who isn’t already super shutdown is going to keep chugging along with their current procedures. FL and it’s theme parks included.
 
I think those type of comments come from the same group of Disney fans whose concern for the CMs began and ended with getting them back to work so they could go to the parks.

Happy not to see it so much here, but unfortunately on some spaces people have reverted back to the “you can’t tell me what to do!!” attitude with no consideration for CMs who are working face to face with the public during a pandemic.
I think you’re more likely to see this type of reaction when restrictions seem unreasonable like in CA. And, personally, I think it’s that disturbing that one person in so many areas has so much power.
 
I think you’re more likely to see this type of reaction when restrictions seem unreasonable like in CA. And, personally, I think it’s that disturbing that one person in so many areas has so much power.

I was referring to people’s attitude towards front line workers, specifically CMs, and how a lot have shifted back to the not so nice attitude since opening came and went. CA didn’t have anything to do with that part.
 
I know people are aggravated with this, but......

We eat a lot of Middle-Eastern food at home and we didn't find that the food (mostly the shawarma) was very good at Tangierine Cafe.

I said it. :duck:
Same here. We eat a lot here too & I think they’re food is terrible in wdw.
 
We never even bothered because we have incredible Lebanese food right here in Baton Rouge. I knew we would be disappointed. One of my dear friends is from Jordan and she knows all the good spots around here. :)
Yes! I miss BR Lebanese food! In Nola, we are starting to get a few places.
 
Does anyone else think FL theme parks got some extra public push today because of yesterday’s CA news? Disney discounts for all the states, Pin codes, AP discounts, EP Festival, another Value hotel opening & UO nighttime show... seems like a lot of stuff dropped today.

Maybe? I feel like it's been "in the wind" for a while. I've started seeing WDW holiday ads in CT over the past week or so which felt to me like WDW is expanding its marketing even to states where we still have to test or quarantine if we go to FL. I feel like they are slowly trying to encourage more travel now that they have had their protocols in place for the past 3 months.
 
Maybe? I feel like it's been "in the wind" for a while. I've started seeing WDW holiday ads in CT over the past week or so which felt to me like WDW is expanding its marketing even to states where we still have to test or quarantine if we go to FL. I feel like they are slowly trying to encourage more travel now that they have had their protocols in place for the past 3 months.
I live in California and have seen commercials for months out here. I already memorized the jingle for their Christmas advertisement lol

Also saw commercials where I’m originally from, Las Vegas, for WDW. They are for sure trying to get people from far and wide to visit.
 
For the cdc thing, hasn’t it always been exposure is without masks? So now it’s just a shorter period but still w/o masks?
 
We took a mini trip this week and were in Epcot yesterday and MK today. Changes I noticed since our trip late July:

  • Wearing a mask when it is 83 degrees and cloudy is SO much easier than when it is 95 and sunny! We went from dehydrated and needing naps on that trip to spending 9 hours a day straight in the parks this trip.
  • Mask wearing was about the same. Most of the people I saw in violation were either chin wearers or people trying to sneak in pictures near the castles (and some did get away with it).
  • Sooooooo many more people enforcing both masks and social distancing, especially on Main Street.
  • A lot more mentions of needing to wear masks fully--including by the announcers in every show like Philharmagic and Country Bears.
I was really afraid we were going to be disappointed this trip because we walked on all the rides over the summer and I had been following other people's experiences the last couple of weeks. But it wasn't bad at all. It was a lot busier, but the longest line we waited in was 50 minutes for the German caramel shop! Even SDMT in the middle of the afternoon was only 45 minutes posted and 42 minutes actual. Lines like that one looked unbearably long but were quick moving.

The one thing that bothered me was getting in "trouble" for not following rules when I thought that I was following them. For example, we picked up bakery items at the Main Street Bakery. We sat down on a green circle on the curb to eat them and wait for cavalcades. I thought that was okay because we were seated out of the way and eating. But someone came by and told us we had to eat at the yellow tables by the Plaza. Similarly, we staked out a great place near the train station to watch the Cadaver Dans. A few minutes in, someone came and stood next to us. So an employee came over and told US to move down, which put us behind a tree. Both times we just did what we were told, but I was embarrassed because I am NOT a rule breaker and really try to do the right thing!

All in all, this has still been a pretty much perfect trip. Food lines were longer in EPCOT yesterday and over the summer but it was still easy to find tables to eat at and much more pleasant at this temperature. Tomorrow we have a half day at DS before we fly out and I am already bracing for that being a madhouse!
 
Here is the best news of the day:

"Azar said he expects all seniors, healthcare workers, and first responders will be able to receive a vaccine as soon as January, with the rest of the American public able to get a vaccine by April."

https://news.yahoo.com/u-likely-enough-covid-19-205407274.html
I think this is overly optimistic, but a man can dream...

If most Americans were vaccinated by April, I'd think the Disney World stage would be set for some "pre-covid vibes" for their 50th anniversary. October 2021 would look more like March 2020 with some power-ups too (Galactic Starcruiser, Rat, Harmonious, and Space 220).

The other big ticket items that could have been done by the 50th (Tron, GoTG, Epcot Play, Moana, etc) just won't be in play. Still would make most of happy in here.
 
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