Will you get the Covid vaccine?

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You all basically have a duty to help not only yourself, but your fellow citizen, neighbor, etc. to get vaccinated for this. ESPECIALLY if you've been lecturing people all year about "trust the science" regarding mask wearing. ESPECIALLY if you've been part of the Mask Brigade all year.

Amen and hallelujah! Now is not the time to turn on science after lecturing about it all year.
 
number 3, while I appreciate the study and science behind the creation of any vaccines so far, they are rushed. There is no other way to say this,they are very rushed. (again,not arguing WHY they are,b/c I get it....) This rush,will undoubtedly create a situation (at least for some of us) that is also dangerous. (how many meds/vaccines/etc etc have finally been taken off the market in the past 10 years,b/c of of unknown dangers associated with them?)
Number 3 is why I don't mind so much being in a non high risk category,and thinking about my choices still. (if I'm still allowed to have a choice by then)
I think this is where people are way off. This vaccine was not "rushed". And when a certain leader made pushing for it before the election a thing, people jumped on the 'it's political' bandwagon. Frankly, we could have had this vaccine in the Spring as it was developed very quickly based on existing mRNA technology which has been around and tested for decades. Do some research on mRNA vaccine development and you will feel better about the speed.

You can't compare the speed to market for Covid vaccines to other vaccines historically. The reason other vaccines took so much longer is that there was 1) no pressing need to get it done quickly (ie the world is not shut down waiting for it) and 2) $$. No vaccine effort has ever been funded the way Covid has. That being said, no medication/vaccine will be 100% safe or 100% effective for 100% of the population - even ones that were tested for 10+ years. I understand people being nervous about taking it. But I wouldn't make the speed to market compared to other vaccines/medications the reason.
 
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Still have months before I have to decide. My immediate issue is not having gotten a hair cut since March 5. My wife went to Target yesterday and came home with a hair trimming kit. I don't want to go to the Barber, and she doesn't want me to go either. I am told our daughter will be coming over next week and she and my wife are studying YouTube videos on how to cut men's hair in the meantime. Wish me luck. This could turn out perfectly........or I may be sporting a "butch" hair cut for the first time in 55 years
 
my friends SIL is a nurse and very pro vaxx and refuses to get it for herself or family initially. That told me enough for sure.
Being in a medical field does not make one a medical expert on all the things. They’re only as knowledgeable as their own education and experience in their chosen field. This is not a slam against nurses. I have several in my life -ICU, maternity, surgical- they’re all awesome at what they do but none of them are infectious disease experts. I’m not going to a podiatrist to ask about my heart same as I’m not going to ask my niece who is a surgical nurse if I should get the vaccine or not. This is not to say you should or shouldn’t, we all have our reasons for or against but I’d encourage everyone to arm themselves with knowledge from those in the actual field before making a decision.
 
Still have months before I have to decide. My immediate issue is not having gotten a hair cut since March 5. My wife went to Target yesterday and came home with a hair trimming kit. I don't want to go to the Barber, and she doesn't want me to go either. I am told our daughter will be coming over next week and she and my wife are studying YouTube videos on how to cut men's hair in the meantime. Wish me luck. This could turn out perfectly........or I may be sporting a "butch" hair cut for the first time in 55 years
Have to ask: why is your daughter coming over to cut your hair less dangerous than going to Barber? Isn't she exposing you to everyone else she's been exposed to?
 
Have to ask: why is your daughter coming over to cut your hair less dangerous than going to Barber? Isn't she exposing you to everyone else she's been exposed to?
She is, and has been in our "bubble" since March. I know Barbers are supposed to be sanitizing between customers, but sitting in a chair, having equipment used on me that 15-20 other people that day have used HAS to be riskier. And rumor is, our Governor is going to order a 3 week shutdown today or tomorrow, so the Barber shops will shutdown.
 
We don't even know yet that vaccinated people can still spread the disease. That's a supposition, and a bridge we'll have to cross when we get to it. I'm sure we'll know soon enough.
Which is why I said "IF", and included that it's a big if. Meaning I know we don't know that that's the case. It would be good to know.

Then why bring it up? The question posed by the thread was "will you get the vaccine". You answered with "what if it's annual?"
Because I want to know? And this seemed an appropriate thread to ask? Threads go off on tangents all the time, and I'd say asking the question about how long the vaccine lasts is a valid one.

As another poster mentioned, it takes a very long time to identify the long term risks. How long are you willing to wait? Months? Years? How long?
Answered in post #150.
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who-passports-idUSKBN28D1J4
Estonia and the United Nations health agency in October started a pilot project for a digital vaccine certificate - a “smart yellow card” - for eventual use in interoperable healthcare data tracking and to strengthen the WHO-backed COVAX initiative to boost vaccinations in developing countries.

“We are looking very closely into the use of technology in this COVID-19 response, one of them how we can work with member states toward an e-vaccination certificate,” said Siddhartha Datta, Europe’s WHO programme manager for vaccine-preventable diseases, told reporters on a call from Copenhagen.
 
I think this is where people are way off. This vaccine was not "rushed". And when a certain leader made pushing for it before the election a thing, people jumped on the 'it's political' bandwagon. Frankly, we could have had this vaccine in the Spring as it was developed very quickly based on existing mRNA technology which has been around and tested for decades. Do some research on mRNA vaccine development and you will feel better about the speed.

You can't compare the speed to market for Covid vaccines to other vaccines historically. The reason other vaccines took so much longer is that there was 1) no pressing need to get it done quickly (ie the world is not shut down waiting for it) and 2) $$. No vaccine effort has ever been funded the way Covid has. That being said, no medication/vaccine will be 100% safe or 100% effective for 100% of the population - even ones that were tested for 10+ years. I understand people being nervous about taking it. But I wouldn't make the speed to market compared to other vaccines/medications the reason.
Good point :magnify:
 
Yup. Go for it!

Have we heard whether this will be an annual vaccination?

And, if it is true that even those vaccinated can become carriers and expose others to covid, I think masks/social distancing will be around for quite a while. Or those who don't want to continue masking "don't care about others".

If you are thinking that a covid vaccine can make you a carrier of covid and contagious to others the answer is no. If you are thinking that you can still get covid after receiving the vaccine the answer is of course you can. No vaccine in 100% effective and it takes 2-3 weeks after vaccination for the immunity to kick in after being vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html
 
Most side effects (headaches, fatigue, muscle soreness) to vaccines occurs within hours and are not serious. There are almost no known long term side effects to vaccines of any kind. (Longer than 2 months)...keeping in mind this virus is relatively harmless to healthy people of any age, to be wary of getting the vaccine is a little crazy tbh. There’s hundreds of thousands of people who have gotten these vaccines now and have not had serious side effects. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible, but as close as you can get.
 
Also at 90% efficacy, it doesn’t really matter what others do if you’re priority is protecting yourself. You’d have to come in direct contact with the virus, probably for a prolonged period of time and then be 1/10 people where it doesn’t prevent infection, but still prevents serious illness. A good idea would be to think about how likely that is especially outside of a large urban center.
 
If you are thinking that a covid vaccine can make you a carrier of covid and contagious to others the answer is no. If you are thinking that you can still get covid after receiving the vaccine the answer is of course you can. No vaccine in 100% effective and it takes 2-3 weeks after vaccination for the immunity to kick in after being vaccinated.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html
I do not think taking the vaccine will make you a carrier.
 
There’s hundreds of thousands of people who have gotten these vaccines now and have not had serious side effects.
Really? Hundreds of thousands have received the vaccines? Got any thing to back that up? I thought Pfizer's study was 46K, and half got the placebo. Moderna had 30K, of which half got the placebo. You haven't even gotten to 50K of people with the vaccine, much less hundreds of thousands (yet).
 
Also at 90% efficacy, it doesn’t really matter what others do if you’re priority is protecting yourself. You’d have to come in direct contact with the virus, probably for a prolonged period of time and then be 1/10 people where it doesn’t prevent infection, but still prevents serious illness. A good idea would be to think about how likely that is especially outside of a large urban center.

As with ALL vaccines, it isn't 100% effective and not 100% of the people *can* take it. So sure, 10% risk isn't high, but then you start compounding that upon the people who aren't vaccinated, and eventually that percentage of *effectively* unvaccinated people gets too high and we loose herd immunity. If you're in the 10% who don't get effective immunity, but everyone around you is immunized, the virus doesn't get a chance to spread and it doesn't really matter. But if you're in the 10% for whom it isn't effective, and 50% of your neighbors choose not to get it because {insert whatever random excuse they come up with here}, then the virus can continue spready.
So... it really does matter what others do.
 
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