Disney Genie announcement

[Disneylover99]

Ok here’s a question….
If you are still able to try and get a boarding group for Rise of Resistance at 7am, do we think our chances of getting it are greatly reduced because so many spots will be reserved for people paying for it ?
And is still going to be essentially the same battle at 7am except some people are paying and some people are trying to get it for free ? I mean , they aren’t creating more capacity so it kind of stands to reason nothing is going to change as far as making it easier. Now we just fight to pay ?

I would imagine everyone will try to get it for free first, so people won’t be trying to buy it until 2 seconds past 7am. Lol.

I would guess they’ll need to hold a bunch back. Or maybe they just won’t have the virtual 1pm ride release?

 

[tinkerhon]

Lightning lane is the name for the former FP queue. The $15 pp/ per day allows unlimited lightning (fast) pass, but you can only hold one at a time. IAS (Individual Attraction Selections) are priced per ride for specific tier one rides- up to two per day. You do not have to purchase all of them

Thanks !!! Ok... so, in the case of IAS--- let say its our AK day--- FoP and KS are both tier 1-
Lets estimate FoP @. $24 , and KS at $15 -- For my family of (3) , we would be looking at $72 + $45 =. $117 extra for those two rides? Uh.......

I think I also read that you dont have to purchase G+ to purchase IAS (tier 1) rides ? Correct ? TIA!

 

[tinkerhon]

Genie + is unlimited, the tier 1 is what is limited to two.

Gotcha-- thanks !!

 

[luv2cheer92]

7 am is only for resort guests. Other guests will be able to pay and select at park opening.

Not for Genie +, everyone can do their first at 7. It's only the upcharge tier 1 rides that are 7 for onsite and park open for offsite.

 

[pigletto]

I would imagine everyone will try to get it for free first, so people won’t be trying to buy it until 2 seconds past 7am. Lol.

I would guess they’ll need to hold a bunch back. Or maybe they just won’t have the virtual 1pm ride release?

It will be interesting to see how that all works . I was just thinking they did mention they would be using surge pricing. But wouldn’t something like ROTR always be at peak pricing then?

 

[Disneylover99]

It will be interesting to see how that all works . I was just thinking they did mention they would be using surge pricing. But wouldn’t something like ROTR always be at peak pricing then?

I would think so.

 

[tinkerhon]

7 am is only for resort guests. Other guests will be able to pay and select at park opening.

So, lets say you ARE a resort guest--- you wake up at 7AM, and purchase G+ for $15 (my party of 3 would be $45), and then you try for your selections , and the times are not great, or the rides you wanted are not available--- So, you are stuck having already paid the $15 for that day (PP) ? Or, do you get to see the available selections and then pay if you choose to?

And you have to purchase G+ that morning, if you choose to, correct? Cant do it in advance for all of your park days ?

 

[Turksmom]

Thanks !!! Ok... so, in the case of IAS--- let say its our AK day--- FoP and KS are both tier 1-
Lets estimate FoP @. $24 , and KS at $15 -- For my family of (3) , we would be looking at $72 + $45 =. $117 extra for those two rides? Uh.......

I think I also read that you dont have to purchase G+ to purchase IAS (tier 1) rides ? Correct ? TIA!

Correct. There are 5 of us, so please don't tell me how much this is going to cost

 

[tinkerhon]

Correct. There are 5 of us, so please don't tell me how much this is going to cost

Wow--- these trips are taking on a life of their own !!!

P.S-- Please , if there is a stock God, make the AMC squeeze happen before my trip !!!

 

[JakeAZ]

So, lets say you ARE a resort guest--- you wake up at 7AM, and purchase G+ for $15 (my party of 3 would be $45), and then you try for your selections , and the times are not great, or the rides you wanted are not available--- So, you are stuck having already paid the $15 for that day (PP) ? Or, do you get to see the available selections and then pay if you choose to?

I believe this was discussed earlier. Previewing what's available will be $15pp per day.

All kidding aside, I would bet they show what is avaialble at the time with a blacked out (Genie+ only) button. FOMO for sure.

And you have to purchase G+ that morning, if you choose to, correct? Cant do it in advance for all of your park days ?

I have no doubt they'd be happy to sell it to you in advance. It's in their interest to sell it before people realize they may not need it if their day ends up being slow...or raining. It will 100% be non-refundable.

 

[tinkerhon]

Not for Genie +, everyone can do their first at 7. It's only the upcharge tier 1 rides that are 7 for onsite and park open for offsite.

And for resort guests, you would be able to purchase (2) tier 1 (upcharge rides) at 7AM? Only the G+ you can only book 1 ?

 

[poetz]

So, lets say you ARE a resort guest--- you wake up at 7AM, and purchase G+ for $15 (my party of 3 would be $45), and then you try for your selections , and the times are not great, or the rides you wanted are not available--- So, you are stuck having already paid the $15 for that day (PP) ? Or, do you get to see the available selections and then pay if you choose to?

And you have to purchase G+ that morning, if you choose to, correct? Cant do it in advance for all of your park days ?

If it works anything like MaxPass did, you won't see availability until you pay. Then you pick your ride. Next available works like FP- did. 9:00 window sells out, then 9:10 window sells out, etc... Because it's basically the old FP ticket machines in electronic format and all in one place.

I expect for the tier 1 LL, you'll probably see the time available to book before you tap that purchase button.

 

[CBMom01]

We loved having 3 FP+ set up for our arrival day. Now would it even be worth it to show up to a crowded park after our flight. Can I see what G+ has available before I purchase? I would hate to purchase it then find out there’s nothing left.

Totally agree. This has pushed me more firmly into the “park tickets on arrival day are a waste” mindset

 

[MrWreckless]

I’m really surprised to hear you didn’t use your phone in the parks before. No extra FPs after you used your first three? No mobile ordering? No checking wait times/show times in the app? You could still keep your phone in your pocket and not purchase genie+. Nobody is forcing this on you.

I rarely used my phone either. I knew the times for our fast passes and everything else was handled with the magic band. We would wander the parks and use the in park signage to know the wait times. If we were in world showcase we didn't know the wait time for test track until we made our way into that area. The entire purpose of going to disney was to leave the outside world, being tethered to a phone ruined it IMO. Now that I'm planning for our kids I'm sure I'll be on the phone looking at wait times but hopefully I can keep up the care free facade for my wife and sister.

 

[Turksmom]

And for resort guests, you would be able to purchase (2) tier 1 (upcharge rides) at 7AM? Only the G+ you can only book 1 ?

You've got it! I'm betting before it launches, they change it again

 

[tinkerhon]

I believe this was discussed earlier. Previewing what's available will be $15pp per day.

All kidding aside, I would bet they show what is avaialble at the time with a blacked out (Genie+ only) button. FOMO for sure.


I have no doubt they'd be happy to sell it to you in advance. It's in their interest to sell it before people realize they may not need it if their day ends up being slow...or raining. It will 100% be non-refundable.

I really hope you can see whats available prior to purchasing-- before I am so sure that Disney would be so willing to give people a refund if they paid and none of their selections were available .. (

 

[TitusPullo]

Ok here’s a question….
If you are still able to try and get a boarding group for Rise of Resistance at 7am, do we think our chances of getting it are greatly reduced because so many spots will be reserved for people paying for it ?
And is still going to be essentially the same battle at 7am except some people are paying and some people are trying to get it for free ? I mean , they aren’t creating more capacity so it kind of stands to reason nothing is going to change as far as making it easier. Now we just fight to pay ?

As you said they aren’t increasing capacity so estimates were around 70% of a given rides capacity was dedicated to FP+ previously so I would assume the free boarding groups will be significantly harder to obtain.
I actually think with the exception of ROTR the system is going to work really well. There are ways to get on tier 1 rides at rope drop, park close, or during fireworks however there is no other way than a boarding group or lightning lane for ROTR.
Day one I can see people on their phones at 7 am “Honey genie says there are no more boarding groups but he says we can purchase lightning lane for 35.”
I cannot envision a scenario where all the lightning lane for ROTR aren’t sold out to on site hotel guests prior to park opening. The demand simply is too great. I will be purchasing the LL on my upcoming trip.

 

[Jennasis]

Every "day of" your trip

Truth. But we are typically up at that time every day of our trip anyway even if we don't go to the parks. I completely recognize the hassle this is for the majority of people. It just isn't the thing about Genie that ticks me off...and there is plenty about it that does.

 

[pigletto]

As you said they aren’t increasing capacity so estimates were around 70% of a given rides capacity was dedicated to FP+ previously so I would assume the free boarding groups will be significantly harder to obtain.
I actually think with the exception of ROTR the system is going to work really well. There are ways to get on tier 1 rides at rope drop, park close, or during fireworks however there is no other way than a boarding group or lightning lane for ROTR.
Day one I can see people on their phones at 7 am “Honey genie says there are no more boarding groups but he says we can purchase lightning lane for 35.”
I cannot envision a scenario where all the lightning lane for ROTR aren’t sold out to on site hotel guests prior to park opening. The demand simply is too great. I will be purchasing the LL on my upcoming trip.

I think you are right . And that it will be peak pricing pretty much every day. We haven’t had a chance to ride it, or Ratatouille so I think I would pay for those two so I could see them at least one time and just use a rope drop everything else. I guess it’s a necessary evil if I want to see them at all.

 

[JakeAZ]

I really hope you can see whats available prior to purchasing-- before I am so sure that Disney would be so willing to give people a refund if they paid and none of their selections were available .. (

I bet they will, but I don't know how much it's really going to help you in the AM. It will allow those who purchase it to grab the next available time, not a time of their choosing. So early in the AM, you're only going to see AM times across the board.