ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[cpyle21]

cpyle21---$116-$25748-210-OKW-Aug-378/21, 210/22, 210/23-Seller paying CC- sent 8/1

 

[The_MT]

I’m offering! No one wants my lowballs. Lol.

I’ve put in some offers too. Straight up rejected a few times and countered on a couple others. I’ve spent so much money on DVC points in the last 12 months that I can’t justify spending any more for a while unless I get a killer deal.

 

[Einstein509]

So I had something interesting occur yesterday and I'm wondering if others had similar experiences. My DVC guide called me out of the blue and asked about the DCL cruise we're going on soon. He said that he saw we were slated to go and wanted to know if there is anything he could assist us on with DVC.

I'm guessing he used the cruise as an excuse to call us and wish us on our way, but that makes me wonder what other things DVC guides see linked to your account or name. Resort stays? Future trips? Any of your Disney plans? ROFR data?

Makes me think that there's more to this whole "system" than we see here and a lot of this is somehow linked. That may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it does make you wonder.

As a sidenote, a couple of years ago, we stayed at VGF and loved it, so we put in for VGF resale. Had three contracts taken in a row before we gave up. Did they know we stayed there and were pushing us towards direct?

 

[hglenn]

So I had something interesting occur yesterday and I'm wondering if others had similar experiences. My DVC guide called me out of the blue and asked about the DCL cruise we're going on soon. He said that he saw we were slated to go and wanted to know if there is anything he could assist us on with DVC.

I'm guessing he used the cruise as an excuse to call us and wish us on our way, but that makes me wonder what other things DVC guides see linked to your account or name. Resort stays? Future trips? Any of your Disney plans? ROFR data?

Makes me think that there's more to this whole "system" than we see here and a lot of this is somehow linked. That may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it does make you wonder.

As a sidenote, a couple of years ago, we stayed at VGF and loved it, so we put in for VGF resale. Had three contracts taken in a row before we gave up. Did they know we stayed there and were pushing us towards direct?

It absolutely is all linked. It's no secret that data is the most valuable commodity on the planet. To go a step further, they can probably see what you watch on Disney+, order from ShopDisney.com and how often you check ride times when you're not at Disney...(or is that just me??). LOL

 

[BGparadise]

It absolutely is all linked. It's no secret that data is the most valuable commodity on the planet. To go a step further, they can probably see what you watch on Disney+, order from ShopDisney.com and how often you check ride times when you're not at Disney...(or is that just me??). LOL

We just returned from a trip and received 3 calls from before the trip and through the 2 week stay. It was a similar conversation in that our guide just asked if there was anything he could help answer for us.

 

[AKVDisneyFan]

Do they offer better deals on points on the cruises for existing members?

 

[Einstein509]

Do they offer better deals on points on the cruises for existing members?

No, I don't think so. He told me to make sure I check out the DVC merch in the gift shops though, lol.

 

[pianomanzano]

Do they offer better deals on points on the cruises for existing members?

I’ve heard that there are sometimes extra incentives, such as onboard credit.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Do they offer better deals on points on the cruises for existing members?

Last sailing it was $1,000 regardless of contract size.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I think there needs to be some kind of recourse against DVD for their obscene processing times on resale contracts. I've owned my interest in Aulani for weeks. It's mine. It legally belongs to me. Yet Disney is making it impossible to use what's mine by dragging their feet. I have distressed points that are going to expire and availability between now and then is basically zero.

This is the last time I buy a loaded contract. There's too much risk that your seller, your broker, your title company, Disney, or a combination of all four completely screw you on the timeline and you end up setting hundreds of points on fire.

 

[hglenn]

I think there needs to be some kind of recourse against DVD for their obscene processing times on resale contracts. I've owned my interest in Aulani for weeks. It's mine. It legally belongs to me. Yet Disney is making it impossible to use what's mine by dragging their feet. I have distressed points that are going to expire and availability between now and then is basically zero.

This is the last time I buy a loaded contract. There's too much risk that your seller, your broker, your title company, Disney, or a combination of all four completely screw you on the timeline and you end up setting hundreds of points on fire.

I agree. Generally, in a real estate transaction there is an agreed upon possession date that indicates when the buyer will take possession. It seems that DVD makes up the rules as they go with this. As far as I know there is nothing in the contract language defining a specific period of time that they have to make the transfer.

 

[BunnyhugSK]

Well...since "Plan A" was taken, it's onto "Plan B":

BunnyhugSK---$135-$29700-220-AKV-Dec-0/20, 166/21, 220/22, 220/23-Seller paying CC- sent 8/3

(Good thing there are 26 letters in the alphabet!)

 

[Leight19]

So I had something interesting occur yesterday and I'm wondering if others had similar experiences. My DVC guide called me out of the blue and asked about the DCL cruise we're going on soon. He said that he saw we were slated to go and wanted to know if there is anything he could assist us on with DVC.

I'm guessing he used the cruise as an excuse to call us and wish us on our way, but that makes me wonder what other things DVC guides see linked to your account or name. Resort stays? Future trips? Any of your Disney plans? ROFR data?

Makes me think that there's more to this whole "system" than we see here and a lot of this is somehow linked. That may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it does make you wonder.

As a sidenote, a couple of years ago, we stayed at VGF and loved it, so we put in for VGF resale. Had three contracts taken in a row before we gave up. Did they know we stayed there and were pushing us towards direct?

My guide also called me to see how I was doing and specially asked if I felt I had enough points. I think this means they’re getting the word to push sales more so will be interested to see how much the direct sales slowed.

 

[DVChris]

This is the last time I buy a loaded contract. There's too much risk that your seller, your broker, your title company, Disney, or a combination of all four completely screw you on the timeline and you end up setting hundreds of points on fire.

Is there enough time to exchange them into II?

 

[Sandisw]

I agree. Generally, in a real estate transaction there is an agreed upon possession date that indicates when the buyer will take possession. It seems that DVD makes up the rules as they go with this. As far as I know there is nothing in the contract language defining a specific period of time that they have to make the transfer.

There is nothing in the contract and because its not like a typical real estate where there is a physical property, the transfer can not take place immediately until they are notified that the property has actually closed...and deed recorded. They can't stop access for the current owner until they know that its official.

Now, timeline for that to occur? Well, so far, I have not found anything in all my searching that defines it....prior to 2020, to be honest, it never took this long to transfer contracts...normally, you had access within a week...that was my experience at least.

And, FL timeshare law, doesn't define it either when discussing rules for resale...at least not that I can find...so that wouldn't be something one could use with DVD to question timeline (unless I missed it in the statute).

Not saying there are not other things that could be used...just that I have yet to find anything as to what defines "reasonable" for a timeshare contract to be transferred from one owner to the next.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So I had something interesting occur yesterday and I'm wondering if others had similar experiences. My DVC guide called me out of the blue and asked about the DCL cruise we're going on soon. He said that he saw we were slated to go and wanted to know if there is anything he could assist us on with DVC.

Are you sure it was YOUR DVC guide? This happened to us for the first time in July, but it wasn't my guide, it was the guide who was going to be onboard the ship. We also had the DVC magnets waiting for us on our stateroom door, which we aren't supposed to get as resale-only members.

DVC guides see linked to your account or name. Resort stays? Future trips? Any of your Disney plans? ROFR data?

Makes me think that there's more to this whole "system" than we see here and a lot of this is somehow linked. That may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it does make you wonder.

If you use your same email for everything, all of the following are linked:

- My Disney Experience account
- Castaway Club number and status
- DVC member number and status
- Annual passholder status
- Disney Visa member status
- Disney+ subscription status
- Disney cast member status

In the "Disney World" app, go to "My Profile" and then "Memberships & Passes." You should see all of your affiliations in there.

My guess is that the DCL people can just run a manifest of everyone in a particular sailing and immediately identify those who are DVC members.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Now, timeline for that to occur? Well, so far, I have not found anything in all my searching that defines it....prior to 2020, to be honest, it never took this long to transfer contracts...normally, you had access within a week...that was my experience at least.

They can't make it impossible to use your contract. If they shut down their website and laid off all of their MS cast members, obviously they can't do that. I see this as the same thing in principle, just on a smaller scale.

 

[hereforthechurros]

My guide also called me to see how I was doing and specially asked if I felt I had enough points. I think this means they’re getting the word to push sales more so will be interested to see how much the direct sales slowed.

Or how many ROFR points are beginning to pile up and need to be sold.

 

[Enticethemoose]

enticethemoose---$167-$22630-130-BLT-Oct-0/21, 248/22, 130/23-seller pays closing- sent 7/5- passed 8/4

Shocked!! I thought there was no way this was getting through!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

enticethemoose---$167-$22630-130-BLT-Oct-0/21, 248/22, 130/23-seller pays closing- sent 7/5- passed 8/4

Shocked!! I thought there was no way this was getting through!