News Round Up 2017

nkosiek · Nov 21, 2017

Tigger's ally said:
No pun intended?

Oh, no. I'm a Track and Field as well as Cross Country coach...pun was very much intended.

TomServo27 · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
Does anyone feel that the draw of Mario Kart / Donkey Kong is super high? I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but I grew up in the era of these games and honestly couldn't care about a theme park ride based on them.

And what's with the "Start in 2018 and 3 years to build" sounds like Disney plans - oh wait, they're doing TSL in two.

Yes it is spans generations.

nkosiek · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
Does anyone feel that the draw of Mario Kart / Donkey Kong is super high? I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but I grew up in the era of these games and honestly couldn't care about a theme park ride based on them.

And what's with the "Start in 2018 and 3 years to build" sounds like Disney plans - oh wait, they're doing TSL in two.

I'd bet the Mario Kart idea will FLY, especially if they find a way to do it well. That may be the most beloved of the Mario franchise. Now, DK, meh.

Roxyfire · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
Does anyone feel that the draw of Mario Kart / Donkey Kong is super high? I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but I grew up in the era of these games and honestly couldn't care about a theme park ride based on them.

And what's with the "Start in 2018 and 3 years to build" sounds like Disney plans - oh wait, they're doing TSL in two.

Very high, Nintendo is riding high right now with a successful launch of the Switch and several Nintendo IP games. Fact is, a lot of people like me grew up with Nintendo, had almost every console and Mario game, and now are passing that on to their kids. They could add a few different areas and still hit a ton of different market segments from kids to retro games. They're a solid IP to have right now, I'm very glad they're building this in Orlando.

rteetz · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
Does anyone feel that the draw of Mario Kart / Donkey Kong is super high? I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but I grew up in the era of these games and honestly couldn't care about a theme park ride based on them.

And what's with the "Start in 2018 and 3 years to build" sounds like Disney plans - oh wait, they're doing TSL in two.

I think the idea of being actually inside Mario Kart is incredible. I feel that’s where the most anticipation is. Actually physically feeling like you’re inside that game.

I’ve got to think construction is at an all time high in Orlando from 2018-2021 at least in the theme park sense. Only so many companies do this sort of work so they may need that extra time for that.

PirateD · Nov 21, 2017

Roxyfire said:
Very high, Nintendo is riding high right now with a successful launch of the Switch and several Nintendo IP games. Fact is, a lot of people like me grew up with Nintendo, had almost every console and Mario game, and now are passing that on to their kids. They could add a few different areas and still hit a ton of different market segments from kids to retro games. They're a solid IP to have right now, I'm very glad they're building this in Orlando.

I totally agree with this. When my whole family gets together, we have 3 generations ages 8-70 playing MarioKart together. We are all excited about this. I believe this will definitely push us to finally book that Universal trip.

mom2rtk · Nov 21, 2017

Roxyfire said:
Very high, Nintendo is riding high right now with a successful launch of the Switch and several Nintendo IP games. Fact is, a lot of people like me grew up with Nintendo, had almost every console and Mario game, and now are passing that on to their kids. They could add a few different areas and still hit a ton of different market segments from kids to retro games. They're a solid IP to have right now, I'm very glad they're building this in Orlando.

I was just having this discussion with my 22 year old son last night. I think Nintendo was a very smart IP acquisition for US. Many of us have an emotional attachment to Disney because we grew up watching The Wonderful World of Disney. But I'm not sure if his generation is as plugged into the Disney experience in the same way they are plugged into the world of Nintendo. He's not a theme park guy, but I told him I'm going to laugh when he has a son one day and can't resist the pull of taking him to Universal to experience it himself.

skier_pete · Nov 21, 2017

rteetz said:
I think the idea of being actually inside Mario Kart is incredible. I feel that’s where the most anticipation is. Actually physically feeling like you’re inside that game..

I will admit that as long as it's not that you are sitting in a non-moving shaking car and watching a screen I would really look forward to this. However, if Universal holds pattern, you'll be sitting in a shaking car watching a screen.

rteetz · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
I will admit that as long as it's not that you are sitting in a non-moving shaking car and watching a screen I would really look forward to this. However, if Universal holds pattern, you'll be sitting in a shaking car watching a screen.

From what I have heard they are throwing as much money as they can into Nintendo.

StrawberryChan · Nov 21, 2017

i'm not too sure if donkey kong is a major draw, but honestly that'll be a c-ticket ride compared to mario kart being the main draw. i think EVERYONE knows mario kart by now--mario kart wii sold 37 million units worldwide. it'll definitely be their main push, like flight of passage was for pandora. honestly it's very smart to only focus on mario and DK for the first phase of nintendo world, then start sprinkling their other popular IPs into other parks (definitely zelda for islands of adventure, maybe kirby and animal crossing if they need a kiddie section).

skier_pete said:
I will admit that as long as it's not that you are sitting in a non-moving shaking car and watching a screen I would really look forward to this. However, if Universal holds pattern, you'll be sitting in a shaking car watching a screen.

the rumor i've heard is that it'll be like spider-man and transformers, where you'll be in a physical kart that moves and drifts, while wearing augmented reality glasses (likely to give you a heads up display, like the game). see also their patents

skier_pete · Nov 21, 2017

So everyone here is saying "Mario Kart is where it's at", but if the rumor is right - the Mario Kart ride is only 79,000 square feet (a mere 1.8 acres) to Donkey Kong's 202,000 square feet (4.6 acres). That feels pretty small - even for something like a spider man attraction that moves through a show building - though I did a quick measurement on the Spider-Man building and seems in that ballpark 60,000 - 80,000 square feet, so this may be the case. Meanwhile that Donkey Kong ride has to be something pretty huge - more of an actual physical "coaster" or ride of some sort with that size. I measured up Jurassic Park and that runs about 160,000 square feet, Kong is around 150,000. So that one's got to be a more physical ride.

rteetz · Nov 21, 2017

skier_pete said:
So everyone here is saying "Mario Kart is where it's at", but if the rumor is right - the Mario Kart ride is only 79,000 square feet (a mere 1.8 acres) to Donkey Kong's 202,000 square feet (4.6 acres). That feels pretty small - even for something like a spider man attraction that moves through a show building - though I did a quick measurement on the Spider-Man building and seems in that ballpark 60,000 - 80,000 square feet, so this may be the case. Meanwhile that Donkey Kong ride has to be something pretty huge - more of an actual physical "coaster" or ride of some sort with that size. I measured up Jurassic Park and that runs about 160,000 square feet, Kong is around 150,000. So that one's got to be a more physical ride.

Donkey Kong is supposed to be a coaster.

StrawberryChan · Nov 21, 2017

the thing here is verticality: according to the rumors, mario kart will be in a 3-story complex (meaning it could very likely use elevators to make full use of that space), while DK will be a mine-cart roller coaster on a flatter area

Tigger's ally · Nov 21, 2017

nkosiek said:
Oh, no. I'm a Track and Field as well as Cross Country coach...pun was very much intended.

You sound like a very pun coach!

BigRed98 · Nov 22, 2017

Spoiler Free Quick Coco Review

Frozen Short: I liked it and I didn't mind it being 22 minutes long but I understand some not wanting to watch a 22 minute clip before a movie. Rating B+

Coco: I just came back from seeing Coco and I loved it. The animation, music, characters, and plot were all great. There is a plot twist which really surprised me and elevated the movie for me. I do feel like it is more geared towards adults. I'm not saying that kids won't like it but little kids might not understand the holiday day of the dead. I really recommend everyone to go see it and I really hope this movie is a success. Rating A

rteetz · Nov 22, 2017

BigRed98 said:
Spoiler Free Quick Coco Review

Frozen Short: I liked it and I didn't mind it being 22 minutes long but I understand some not wanting to watch a 22 minute clip before a movie. Rating B+

Coco: I just came back from seeing Coco and I loved it. The animation, music, characters, and plot were all great. There is a plot twist which really surprised me and elevated the movie for me. I do feel like it is more geared towards adults. I'm not saying that kids won't like it but little kids might not understand the holiday day of the dead. I really recommend everyone to go see it and I really hope this movie is a success. Rating A

Glad to hear it!

Madteaparty001 · Nov 22, 2017

Think what universal could do for Halloween with Luigi's haunted mansion (only reason my kid even wants to ride haunted mansion at MK when we go next month). She's only 5 but between animal crossing, various mario games, and zelda, Nintendo has as much sway over her as Disney right now. If Universal got PBS rights and added a Dino Train ride and peg + cat mathtropolis land our vacations would look very different. Bummed about the 3 year build time, who knows what she'll be into then (probably Harry Potter).

LSLS · Nov 22, 2017

skier_pete said:
So everyone here is saying "Mario Kart is where it's at", but if the rumor is right - the Mario Kart ride is only 79,000 square feet (a mere 1.8 acres) to Donkey Kong's 202,000 square feet (4.6 acres). That feels pretty small - even for something like a spider man attraction that moves through a show building - though I did a quick measurement on the Spider-Man building and seems in that ballpark 60,000 - 80,000 square feet, so this may be the case. Meanwhile that Donkey Kong ride has to be something pretty huge - more of an actual physical "coaster" or ride of some sort with that size. I measured up Jurassic Park and that runs about 160,000 square feet, Kong is around 150,000. So that one's got to be a more physical ride.

I don't know Universal at all, but I can only get a max off 77,000 sq. feet if I include all of the stands/stores out front with it. I get about the same for Jurassic Park as well. Universal has the tough task of needing to maximize the use of their space as their land is much more valuable than Disney (since they don't have the luxury of building out like Disney can). Like I said, I don't know Universal (I went once and that was 20 years ago and wasn't very impressed), but this is their chance to really start pulling people from Disney (Nintendo + Potter). They have to know that they have to do it really well if they want to think about ever truly competing with Disney.

TheMaxRebo · Nov 22, 2017

rteetz said:
Donkey Kong is supposed to be a coaster.

If that ride system patent is indeed for Donkey Kong it will be like the mine cart part of Donkey Kong country and the new technology will allow for it to simulate the cart making jumps and changing tracks and stuff - just like in the game

So Mario Kart will be the IP that is the draw but DK could be the better "ride"

TheMaxRebo · Nov 22, 2017

LSLS said:
I don't know Universal at all, but I can only get a max off 77,000 sq. feet if I include all of the stands/stores out front with it. I get about the same for Jurassic Park as well. Universal has the tough task of needing to maximize the use of their space as their land is much more valuable than Disney (since they don't have the luxury of building out like Disney can). Like I said, I don't know Universal (I went once and that was 20 years ago and wasn't very impressed), but this is their chance to really start pulling people from Disney (Nintendo + Potter). They have to know that they have to do it really well if they want to think about ever truly competing with Disney.

There was a plan that was found on the internet a while ago that was proved to not be official but it showed the area as being multiple stories with some rides on top of others - so maybe hat is how they get to the total land size for the rides - they overlap each other within the same physical plot

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