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I feel the opposite. The Wonder & Magic feel much more crowded to me even though there aren't as many passengers.
Big same - less to do = more people crowded in the same areas.
I feel the opposite. The Wonder & Magic feel much more crowded to me even though there aren't as many passengers.
Some semi-interesting numbers:I don't get it. As far as the Magic and Wonder are concerned. Yes they have fewer people but it's a smaller ship.
Wish is a slight deviation from the Dream Class. All 3 Wish class should be almost identical. Once the Wish enters service some small stuff will pop up like the way certain doors open or certain valves location may get moved for ergonomics or practicality, but structurally should be the same.I thought the Wish was a different blueprint than the two others after it. Or, are all 3 the same blueprint?
MJ
Agreed! Much of what DCL does is completely influenced by current market needs, but they're always looking down the road, I guess they would have possibly expanded the line with new ships but the 2008 Financial crisis probably had something to do with waiting until later to add more ships. Disney never rushes into things, a good example is their measured and methodical changes to the current parks in attractions and venues. Disney has been around a long long time and they're not going to go anywhere soon. The ships will just be a reflection of that ideology.
Some semi-interesting numbers:
Dream Class ships are ~130,000 GRT and max capacity of ~4,000 passengers. 130/4 = 32.5
Magic Class ships are ~83,000 GRT and max capacity of ~2,700 passengers. 83/2.7 = 30.7
So yes, the larger ships have a bit more space per passenger than the original two.
So last night the Oddesey moved backwards in the dock making room for the next new build. That would be Wish. Once Oddesey floats out in the next few weeks AidaCosma which is floating outside at the fitting out pier will take her place in the dock.
For the Oddesy shes pretty close. I think that the Wish and Cosma traded places which would explain why Cosma was behind the Oddesey in the dock and had to be moved out first, then will get moved back in. The majority of the blocks sitting next to Oddesey are Cosmas, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wish has a block or 3 in thereSo is this the correct timing for all these moves? Does this mean the Wish is so far, on schedule?
If they move the engine modules from Meyer-Werft Turku, to Papenburg soon that would be a definite indication of the Wish moving ahead with construction, but I do have to speculate that with the recent fires that occurred on the Odyssey of The Seas it could delay it's completion which would push back the rest of the builds. Fortunately the damage was mostly cosmetic and shouldn't take long to put right.
You're correct I confused the 2 other Meyer-Werft shipyards, still I will be looking any indication that they'll be moving the engine module out and bring it to Papenburg, then maybe DCL will give us some kind of indication about the time frame for the Wish, I still expect it to be delayed, possibly up to a year. After all Richard Branson's Scarlet Lady has been floating around FL for nearly 6 months now with out a single paying passenger on board, and it just recently returned to Ficanteri's ship yard in Genoa for "routine maintenance" which could be translated in a "make over" for public spaces like buffets and bars etc.. to prepare for upcoming regulations requiring social distancing etc.Just judging by the pictures the damage seems internal and they can fix that in Bremerhaven, alongside the pier.They can do it at the pier in Papenberg also. So it shouldn't hold up Cosma and Wish too much. I looked the other night and Oddeseys Maiden is now April of next year. Roughly 6 months. At the moment, Wish seems to be close to being on time, as well as Cosma.The following ships maybe delayed as that's when the supply chain and MW will do a purposeful slow down. How much remains to be seen.
The engine blocks come from Rostock at Neptun Werft not Turku which is in Finland. Rostock supplies all 3 yards with those blocks.
No biggie. Ive done it before. I keep mixing up Rotterdamn and Rostock. Half the time I have to look before I post it. I wish they would update there webcam like Papenburg does on a regular basis. Better yet, it would be nice if they put the live cam back up.You're correct I confused the 2 other Meyer-Werft shipyards, still I will be looking any indication that they'll be moving the engine module out and bring it to Papenburg, then maybe DCL will give us some kind of indication about the time frame for the Wish, I still expect it to be delayed, possibly up to a year. After all Richard Branson's Scarlet Lady has been floating around FL for nearly 6 months now with out a single paying passenger on board, and it just recently returned to Ficanteri's ship yard in Genoa for "routine maintenance" which could be translated in a "make over" for public spaces like buffets and bars etc.. to prepare for upcoming regulations requiring social distancing etc.
That was prior to the pandemic. At this point, Im guessing its a 50/50 shot if she makes that date. From everything going on industry wide, and not just MW, every ship is getting delayed. Forgetting Oddesey for the moment because her delay is different, the yards are having a hard time with their suppliers getting the necessary supplies to the yard on time. Id hazard a guess that shell end up slipping on her time frame also.Wish will be sailing by January 2022, according to a source.