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SL6827

Them, loving the lake. Me- not so much!
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You started the thread addressing "the changes that DVC has made with financial impacts on new buyers." Not sure why you now imagine sales pressure to be the issue.

None of what I said has actually happened with Cadillac? Maybe not. With DVC. It actually did - they just walked the very worst of it back (most likely after they realized how losing a fraud lawsuit might impact the brand.)


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Again, not sure if you are a shill or a well intentioned but doe-eyed naif but the chart shown includes 1BR and studios, so increasing those point costs arbitrarily to line Disney's pockets at the expense of members would have qualified as easily documented and actionable fraud and deceit.

When I originally purchased the product, I had the right to convey exactly what I received to a resale purchaser. If I bought a Cadillac and sold it to you, you got the same car. Disney has spent the last several years damaging the resale product so that DVC owners cannot convey to a purchaser the same product which they originally acquired. These changes have been "legal" but they do put owners in an adversarial position, where many of us can no longer recommend the product as the restrictions go farther and farther. The DVC of the first 10 years was different than the current product, but the timeshare industry is full of shysters and verbal deceptions that Disney seems willing to consider their new "standard."

It's fortunate that your sales experience was accurate. Many posters here have had to correct numerous verbal deceptions and misstatements by DVC "guides" which have seemed to become more numerous in the past few years.

DVC is not obligated to price their timeshares so that every person in America can afford it. They have a right to price it at a profitable level. But they have set a pattern of continually changing the rules, to the detriment of owners. I would assume if you booked a cash stay at the GF but upon your arrival, Disney moved you to All Star Music with no refund, you might feel a little bait-and-switched. That is a better comparison for how long term DVC owners feel. (But if you accepted your ASM demotion with a cheerful acceptance that at least it would be good for the Disney shareholders, I will at least salute your consistency... :) )
What exactly is this promo material? If anyone cares to explain?
 

chalee94

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What exactly is this promo material? If anyone cares to explain?
The pictures on pg1 of the thread were from promotional DVDs explaining to potential buyers how DVC works.

Drusba also referenced an old product understanding checklist and more in this link:


"Industry standard" in the timeshare industry is to have your salespeople make extravagant statements that are a least a bit dishonest and then cover yourself by having a written contract that disavows verbal statements. Disney was unique in printing and distributing promo material (for nearly 30 years?) that current executives want to wash their hands of. There will be no shortage of documentation if it comes to litigation.
 

SL6827

Them, loving the lake. Me- not so much!
Joined
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The pictures on pg1 of the thread were from promotional DVDs explaining to potential buyers how DVC works.

Drusba also referenced an old product understanding checklist and more in this link:


"Industry standard" in the timeshare industry is to have your salespeople make extravagant statements that are a least a bit dishonest and then cover yourself by having a written contract that disavows verbal statements. Disney was unique in printing and distributing promo material (for nearly 30 years?) that current executives want to wash their hands of. There will be no shortage of documentation if it comes to litigation.
Oh, wow, how interesting. I had no clue, but I have no knowledge of much DVC history. But ya, I think that crap they tried to pull earlier will resurface again. Upping the point requirements for a one bedroom, BS.
 

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