At MK now.....half of Main Street stores are closed

[jknc]

No we are not practicing lock down drills at all. Disney already has a complete evacuation and shelter system in place and it works when needed.

When was the last time the general public was involved in a real evacuation?

 

[J and R's mom]

I saw a wall of CMs in April blocking guests from coming within 25-30 feet of the entrance to a pair of restrooms in Tomorrowland. I didn't ask...

LOL! I don't blame you!

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. I cannot decide to stay or go unless I have some information upon which to base that decision. Yes, a decision always has to be an informed one. Otherwise, it devolves into nothing more than a guess. Your statements fail every test of logic or game theory. One cannot do what is "best" unless one knows what the alternatives are so as to weigh and balance the possible outcomes and order them from "worst" to "best". You seem to be advocating making the "best" decision based on no information. I certainly wouldn't want you in charge of our foreign policy. On the other hand, I'd love to play poker with you.

Now THAT'S funny!

Simply wondering what is going on does not equal storming the barricades and demanding an answer. It equals wondering what's going on.

Wondering what's up doesn't mean you're obnoxiously nosy, it means you're human.

Nothing wrong with "wondering." Doesn't mean we'll ever know...but wondering is fine.

Could it be as simple as a "drill" of some kind. Not everything is a drama.

It is on the DIS.

And then it becomes a fight...

And then everyone tells you why you're wrong...

And then everyone forgets what the original post was all about...which reminds me...what IS in NS8VN's storage shed?

But I love it anyway and always come back for more.

 

[lizabu]

If it happens in a school where my child is, then yep. I am notified. Every time. And if there was a security squad trying to disarm a suspected bomb in a Main Street shop on the other side of a wall, then yes, I would want Disney to tell me that too. Now, do I think that that was what was going on? No. I suspect they would evacuate the area completely. But with what went on in Orlando a short time ago, I want more information than a "wall" of college students smiling, telling me to enjoy Main Street leaving me with no information whatsoever from which to make an informed decision. There is rarely a time when telling the truth is a bad idea. We tell our children that every day. Adults should do a better job of practicing what they preach.

Your child's school informs you when it's something you need to know. Which Disney would do too. But they don't call every parent at the school when some kid you don't even know twists their ankle or pees their pants. Theres a difference between things you need to know and things you don't need to know.

 

[jknc]

Patiently waiting to hear what's in the storage shed.

Can I bid on it ala Storage Wars?

 

[zaccaglin]

When was the last time the general public was involved in a real evacuation?

Major? 9/11.

Minor? Gas leak at one of the resorts a few years back.

 

[jknc]

Major? 9/11.

Minor? Gas leak at one of the resorts a few years back.

Im sure evacuation protocols work well, but not willing to bet on them given the last time the public was involved was during low season nearly 15 years ago.

Praying evacuations aren't necessary at WDW ever again.

 

[pigletgirl]

Who knows! At least Disney is keeping their guests at a safe distance from whatever is going on. If it was a medical emergency that required CPR, that would really shake some guests up. Better not to see that at all!

 

[zaccaglin]

Im sure evacuation protocols work well, but not willing to bet on them given the last time the public was involved was during low season nearly 15 years ago.

Praying evacuations aren't necessary at WDW ever again.

Honestly the procedures are incredibly simple, and the cast are thought them from the beginning. They also have refreshers on them every year. They're are three specific procedures, two of which are ways to evacuate, the other is to seek shelter. Every Cm could do them when told, even when in shock. They are that simple,

 

[chigirl]

My guess would be medical emergency. I worked for a large national department store and when customers would get sick or hurt, the general public would freak out. We had an elderly lady pass out on the up escalator and fall down. She was lodged at the bottom and I rushed to hit the emergency stop. I yelled out that I was going to do it, but people freaked out. The woman was bloody and incoherent. We had to make a human shield around her so paramedics could get to her, because we couldnt move her and people were trying to walk OVER her to get up the escalator.

Could be someone was #2 poopy sick and it dribbled through many stores. Or vomited, trying to run to a bathroom. Or a seizure. WDW does a good job keeping people safe, Im guessing it was a guest issue and clean up or first aid/medical attention was needed.

 

[pigletgirl]

My guess would be medical emergency. I worked for a large national department store and when customers would get sick or hurt, the general public would freak out. We had an elderly lady pass out on the up escalator and fall down. She was lodged at the bottom and I rushed to hit the emergency stop. I yelled out that I was going to do it, but people freaked out. The woman was bloody and incoherent. We had to make a human shield around her so paramedics could get to her, because we couldnt move her and people were trying to walk OVER her to get up the escalator.

Could be someone was #2 poopy sick and it dribbled through many stores. Or vomited, trying to run to a bathroom. Or a seizure. WDW does a good job keeping people safe, Im guessing it was a guest issue and clean up or first aid/medical attention was needed.

Exactly. Considering how hot it's been there lately, heat exhaustion would be likely.... Or maybe chest pains...Anything really.

Disney is amazing at this kind of stuff... Unlike our local zoo...

 

[Accident]

When was the last time the general public was involved in a real evacuation?

I think the last evacuations of any size were:
- bomb scare at all star movies (lobby and surrounding areas)
- monorail broke down, everyone evacuated from it after being stuck for about 3 hours. (electrical failure)
- fire at animal kingdom lodge created a lot of smoke.

 

[jhoannam]

I heard rumors that a very large mouse was spotted in the area.

Best reply! Made me literally LOL

 

[Disneytam]

Two years ago while dining at YS and a man at the table behind us choked on something. So bad they were pounding on him and called the rescue squad (or whatever they call them at Disney). He passed out before the rescue team arrived and it was scary for everyone but they didn't try to empty the place. They did revive him and I truly hope that he was ok but they took him out on a stretcher. My point is even though it all happened at the table right behind us we weren't asked to leave or really even to move.

 

[gdrj]

As others have said Disney is not going to share information, especially through CM's who were selling Popcorn or sweeping the streets 2 minutes before. If it was a security issue Disney Security , Mgt, and possibly local law enforcement would be visible. Also if it was a safety issue they would not use CM's as a safety net. As a guest anywhere if you have a concern for your safety (based on actual or lack of information) leave, or move to an area far from the area that you are concerned with. Unless there is an emergency impacting your safety any business isn't going to share details that will spread through social media with inaccurate and false information, potentially creating a hazard.

 

[Disney Khaleesi]

Though an odd situation for sure, knowing me I probably would have accepted to answer and the situation as none of my business and continued on with my day. I'm actually a relatively paranoid person, but I do place a certain amount of trust in my surroundings, otherwise I'd simply never leave home. When it is not my responsibility to handle the situation, I don't worry about it. Working at a movie theater, I have had to call police and EMS before for various situations and it that scenario, it is my responsibility. It's also important that our customers are able to go about their experience with as little interruption as possible, and I liken this situation to that.

 

[bumbershoot]

Maybe I'm not that observant.

It's always the "plaids" that give it away for me. I might not notice the person initially at all, but if I see more than one CM in plaid I go on alert, LOL.

You'd be ok with that but there are too many nosy people who would want to know what kind, people involved, trying to catch a peek, etc; (How many people do you see rubber necking on road accidents and holding up the rest of traffic on a highway?) A non-descriptive answer is the "best" one here.

But people look 1. because they CARE, 2. because they want to make sure it's no one they know (human nature means that we care if anyone is hurt but we care a little bit more if it's someone we know, and 3. because they just want to know what's happening. I've never understood the issue with "rubberneckers". I mean, first off, on a highway you do NOT want people zooming by at 60+ MPH as emergency responders are trying to move around. So it's a flat out GOOD thing that everyone slows down. You WANT people to slow down. And second, not everyone in the slowdown is actually looking. If you think about an accident, first there's the accident, which causes others to swerve and react and respond, and there's a bit of a mess as people do that. Then those behind them have to slow and change behaviour because of those in front, and then it just continues after that. Meanwhile, the slowing down helps the responders, whether or not anyone is actually looking.

And in the case of the human wall, what ELSE are the CMs doing at that moment? Standing there. That's all. Why not give out a teensy bit of info? If people know the basics then most of them will just move along.

If you don't trust them with your safety, and don't trust them enough that if you were indeed at risk for imminent harm they would do something, then how do you trust that they maintain the rides enough that they are safe? How do you trust them to launch fireworks and not have them rain down on you? How do you trust them to feed you without you getting sick?

You make a good point.

Though I don't really trust WDW with the whole fireworks issue. They are much more careful with the fireworks at Disneyland. And they don't allow sitting on Main Street during the actual fireworks (at least the last time I waited for the fireworks). They keep everyone up, specifically in case of emergency. But MK seems to let everyone remain seated. Same on DCL. Terrifying. But then compared to what I've seen at Disneyland, Wishes and Illuminations are a yawn-fest anyway, so it's mainly just annoying to be passing by all those seated people taking up more room than they would if they were standing, as we leave the park before the shows.

Simply wondering what is going on does not equal storming the barricades and demanding an answer. It equals wondering what's going on.

Wondering what's up doesn't mean you're obnoxiously nosy, it means you're human.

Great point. So true.

If I am having a BBQ and someone asks me what is in a storage shed and I don't want to tell them, I don't have to. If they feel uncomfortable with that answer then they are in no way required to remain on my property.

Could you tell my husband's family that?

"Achoo!" "Why did you sneeze? are you sick? what's the matter! you should do xyz!"
"You're buying a house? You have to have it exactly like this and I have to see it before you put an offer on it!" (that one did NOT go well and MIL is still very very angry that she wasn't allowed to see it and its "unlucky", sun goes east-to-west over the house, view.)
"You need a couch? Here take this 15 year old stinky couch because it cost a lot of money and you NEED it and you can't afford a new couch and here you HAVE TO TAKE IT."

etc.

So what's in your storage shed?

Seriously. What the heck is in that shed?

but let's say (very conservatively) 1 in 10 people who ask will ask for more information where none is warranted or stop to get a better view. Multiply that by a large number of people, and, well...

It's amazing how crowds slow down and gather to crane their necks, trying to ogle a poor lady who got heat stroke or the boy having an asthma attack. So better to give no information at all, and ask people to step all the way forward through the walkway.

1/10 will ask for more.

9/10 will just walk on by.

Right now they have 5 or 6/10 slowing down to look, wondering what's going on, wondering who is hurt, if John Stamos is in there (famously big disney fan, at least Disneyland, that is), etc etc etc.

My nosy side would want desperately to know. My practical side accepts that it's none of my business and is a little embarrassed by my nosy side.

So TRUE.

How is it not? You know, you're not actually a guest, you're a paying customer. It's a business, not your aunt's house.

Ooh, good point.

which reminds me...what IS in NS8VN's storage shed?

It's driving me crazy! What's in the shed, NS8VN? What. Is. In. The. Shed????

Im sure evacuation protocols work well, but not willing to bet on them given the last time the public was involved was during low season nearly 15 years ago.

Eh, if it worked well then, when so many Americans were still living in the la la land that nothing bad could happen to us, I bet it would work just fine now. We're so much less naive now.

We had to make a human shield around her so paramedics could get to her, because we couldnt move her and people were trying to walk OVER her to get up the escalator.

People sure do get clueless when not given info! Even when you think you ARE giving info, you can't make people listen sometimes. We just get going on autopilot and it often takes a literal human wall to stop us from following the script in our head.

Could be someone was #2 poopy sick and it dribbled through many stores. Or vomited, trying to run to a bathroom.

Very strong possibilities.





What's in the shed?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Two years ago while dining at YS and a man at the table behind us choked on something. So bad they were pounding on him and called the rescue squad (or whatever they call them at Disney). He passed out before the rescue team arrived and it was scary for everyone but they didn't try to empty the place. They did revive him and I truly hope that he was ok but they took him out on a stretcher. My point is even though it all happened at the table right behind us we weren't asked to leave or really even to move.

I find it odd they "pounded on him" instead of performed the Heimlich Manuver. I assumed all restaurant employees (especially Disney) were taught that.

MG

 

[Maistre Gracey]

If it were a medical emergency, and I were the patient, I would hope the CMs would tell inquiring guests...
There just could be a doctor in the crowd while waiting for EMS.

MG

 

[Alicenwonderment]

Does WDW have scanners you can listen to? Maybe you can listen to Ready Creek. I know when I hear tons of sirens in my area I listen to the scanner on the computer.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Does WDW have scanners you can listen to? Maybe you can listen to Ready Creek. I know when I hear tons of sirens in my area I listen to the scanner on the computer.

My guess is you would need your own scanner, and need to know the frequency.

MG