Star Wars: Galactic Starship (resort experience) News

[amberpi]

I agree...seems like the plan is for sometype of exclusivity...

But if you read these threads...it's already being portrayed as 35 year olds from the 501st playing lazer tag in the hallways and having light saber battles in the stairwells...

You know...it is possible instead there'll be a character breakfast with storm troopers and "palpatine frittata"...

We are expecting disney to do a 180 and change all their spots on this.

They didn't say "adults" only and this could be designed as an add on like a DCL land and sea...as has been suggested...and marketed to families.

I'm mad at you now.

Not that I disagree, but because they haven't done this yet, I'm expecting to pay out the nose but for more interesting drinks than my friends and I have invented with dry ice in a hotel suite. Because this is new, I'm hoping this is Disney directly putting their hands into the pockets of the fans and giving us what we're dying for.

Disney could go the way you've described, if that's what makes money, that's what they should do but they will lose the hardcores immediately. We'll just wait in line to give the actual actors money at cons.

I finally get STOKED about something, and now I realize a 2 night murder mystery is never going to happen

 

[amberpi]

What I would like to see is for them to build in the park specific facilities that you can only get in to via the hotel or other exclusive events...making it truly unique/an upsell worth having

Me too. A girl can hope.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

yeah, if it is supposed to be so immersive, just being out for a few hours with the rest of the peons, er, resort guests would seem to break it - so it seems like they would have to have access to the land (or at least part of it) for just the hotel guests at some point

Man, really feels like there could be a ton of uniqueness not just to this hotel but all of Galaxy's Edge as far as a theme park experience

Kinda like a boutique park?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

If they're smart, they'll do evening hours, charge $40 a drink and just have a cantina open. The fans will spend until their cc gets cut off and will love it

What I would like to see is for them to build in the park specific facilities that you can only get in to via the hotel or other exclusive events...making it truly unique/an upsell worth having

Yes and yes! I can get a stormtrooper to watch the kids, right? Figure they might be able to keep them in line. And if danger befalls them, I'm not worried. DS12 is a better shot from paintball than the troopers, so they'll all be safe.

 

[amberpi]

Yes and yes! I can get a stormtrooper to watch the kids, right? Figure they might be able to keep them in line. And if danger befalls them, I'm not worried. DS12 is a better shot from paintball than the troopers, so they'll all be safe.

Stormtroopers would have been the best babysitters.

 

[TygerHawks]

I finally get STOKED about something, and now I realize a 2 night murder mystery is never going to happen

-ish. I imagine that is possible for those that want to be truly involved.

 

[TygerHawks]

Lets not forget, for those diehard fans, Disney will be giving them a blank slate. Perfect atmosphere and activities. I imagine unofficial story lines popping up from time to time And sadly, some of these may be greater then the official ones.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I'm mad at you now.

Not that I disagree, but because they haven't done this yet, I'm expecting to pay out the nose but for more interesting drinks than my friends and I have invented with dry ice in a hotel suite. Because this is new, I'm hoping this is Disney directly putting their hands into the pockets of the fans and giving us what we're dying for.

Disney could go the way you've described, if that's what makes money, that's what they should do but they will lose the hardcores immediately. We'll just wait in line to give the actual actors money at cons.

I finally get STOKED about something, and now I realize a 2 night murder mystery is never going to happen

Don't hate the player...hate the game...

Look...it's just spitballing (now that I'm warmed up)...and I don't know a thing...

...except I know how disney operates...lots of old dogs from the Eisner era still pull the strings in many ways...and they don't like to deviate from what they see as their core brand philosophy. Unlike iger...they think that they own exclusive rights to high quality family entertainment...even if iger doesn't. That called "wdi"...and park operations execs.

I question their desire to build an adult playground...they couldn't even stick with running bars for 5 hours a night. Just couldn't get large volume of ancillary crap sales from it. That's the easy money Wall Street likes.

It's all theory and will be really interesting to play out. But I think people who are the galactic nerds went way too optimistic too fast. Be cautious. Instead of "OMG...take my money!!!" Stop and think:

"Wait...this is disney...they paid off George for sucking and tarnishing the whole thing to the core with awful kiddie movies..and then they made a blatant reboot after the original franchise that NEVER needed a reboot and started killing off all my Kenner action figures (both literally and storyline wise)

...are they REALLY interested in serving the "spine" (of which I am one...right age and type...grew up with imagination not supplied by the World Wide Web) of Star Wars fandom?

Or is it for appeal to the more lazy subsequent generations and selling movie tickets to the Chinese?"

You have to still have legitimate doubts about where we are still

 

[amberpi]

-ish. I imagine that is possible for those that want to be truly involved.

Yeah, but if a bunch of people not into it, I'll go to my conventions with my friends, in my costumes and we'll rent out suites, the adjoining rooms as well as the above and below floors and have the same fun we'd have there, without having to worry about noise complaints and partying. If this is a SW thing, it should be SW IMHO. If it's Disney SW, that's cool, if its good for their business, just not something *I'd* care about. That's just for me, personally. I'm still hoping for "full immersion," but ya'll are convincing me its unlikely. That's cool. I'll still love WDW and enjoy the land, and keep hoping Universal does full HP immersion. I've got loads of costumes about that and LOVE being a death eater.

 

[bladiator]

What I would like to see is for them to build in the park specific facilities that you can only get in to via the hotel or other exclusive events...making it truly unique/an upsell worth having

Wait wait wait wait wait .... I thought you were the one that is against upsells like that? Or is it just for things that you don't think are worth the money? (Which I have to believe at the price points people are throwing out that the SW resort will not be worth the money) (Oh, I said it)

 

[amberpi]

You have to still have legitimate doubts about where we are still

Yeah, its like dreaming of a new country in Epcot. I get it now. Can I be a little sad though?

Maybe I'll start going to Wasteland - that's like the polar opposite of WDW, right? Not that I'll stop going, but I'm putting my accessories and wigs back in my costume closet.

 

[amberpi]

Wait wait wait wait wait .... I thought you were the one that is against upsells like that? Or is it just for things that you don't think are worth the money? (Which I have to believe at the price points people are throwing out that the SW resort will not be worth the money) (Oh, I said it)

If they did a half butted job of real immersion, I'd happily spend a few grand on a weekend. I was thinking about what I spend on a typical Dragoncon, let's just say - its more than a few grand, and I don't collect stuff, and I don't have to even buy a badge.

 

[momandmousefan]

while 70% of the record-breaking pre-sale tickets for “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” were reportedly bought by men, the actual gender breakdown continued to even out until the very end of the weekend, when it ended at 58% men, 42% women
Source:movie studio data via http://www.mtv.com/news/2683640/geek-media-numbers-breakdown/


Rogue One was 59% male and 41% female

Source http://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MPAA-Theatrical-Market-Statistics-2016_Final-1.pdf

Her Universe has quickly grown into a multimillion dollar company. Need any other stats to prove the female demand is there? Us real nerds prefer to deal real numbers instead of unfounded guesses anyhow


I mean there are studies that show that women make the bulk of travel decisions, studies showing that women are growing in geek culture (https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2015/09/15/data-shows-women-a-rising-force/#4d298e6759e2) and not only that while the males are older, the women fans are YOUNGER (guess which demographic is growing and will be around longer) Disney isn't dumb....they see the writing on the wall and where they can get more market share.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Lets not forget, for those diehard fans, Disney will be giving them a blank slate. Perfect atmosphere and activities. I imagine unofficial story lines popping up from time to time And sadly, some of these may be greater then the official ones.

Ok...this is where the shields go up...why are you assuming that's what you'll get?

Immersion costs a lot of money...this could be a themed hotel with planned rec like a dvc lodge...

It COULD be...I hope to hell not.

But the goal is still maximum profit and the kind of fan immersion necessary will cost a ton.

What is Disney's plan with Star Wars? I don't think they have one past this cycle...and I was very complimentary to their actions for the first 4 years or so...

I'll say it: this Han Solo movie is a dud. I don't think anything other than a "C" movie is possible now...and they are instilling little confidence in the episodes.

I mean...anybody have a quote that shows they have a clue what to do with fisher? They don't and have basically admitted it. And mark hamill's "I disagree with everything written for the sky walker character" doesn't instill a lot of confidence. Who knows what Star Wars is more than mark hamill? (One guy actually...Gary Kurtz)

And abrams said "mark should win an oscar"...
Right...the money guy with his fingers in the movie who still swears he made an unique/complex original story...and did nothing of the sort.

And Johnson came out and defends prequels...

And on and on...ok, I'll stop.

Back to center: so much unknown about what they'll build and what the approach will be...

 

[TygerHawks]

You have to still have legitimate doubts about where we are still

In all honesty, I expect it will become what your thinking. People will not understand, be complaining that they can't spend a single night there, etc... etc... etc... Eventually, it will be just another resort.

But that first year, maybe two, before things are dumbed down I have to think it will be great. The cats out of the bag and the nerds are in full speculation mode. If it craps out, the internet will rage and I don't see Disney wanting that type publicity when it first opens. If its even 1/2 to 3/4 what we are thinking in this thread it will be amazing. But done early and done once

 

[amberpi]

And Johnson came out and defends prequels...

We should never speak of them - except the costumes they created, which were beautiful.

 

[TygerHawks]

lockedoutlogic, I will have to read through and respond later, just wanted to state that I was referencing what the fans could do with such a resort. Even if Disney's vision isn't spectacular, if the scenary is right then fans could still make a great experience running their own stories.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

while 70% of the record-breaking pre-sale tickets for “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” were reportedly bought by men, the actual gender breakdown continued to even out until the very end of the weekend, when it ended at 58% men, 42% women
Source:movie studio data via http://www.mtv.com/news/2683640/geek-media-numbers-breakdown/


Rogue One was 59% male and 41% female

Source http://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MPAA-Theatrical-Market-Statistics-2016_Final-1.pdf

Her Universe has quickly grown into a multimillion dollar company. Need any other stats to prove the female demand is there? Us real nerds prefer to deal real numbers instead of unfounded guesses anyhow


I mean there are studies that show that women make the bulk of travel decisions, studies showing that women are growing in geek culture (https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2015/09/15/data-shows-women-a-rising-force/#4d298e6759e2) and not only that while the males are older, the women fans are YOUNGER (guess which demographic is growing and will be around longer) Disney isn't dumb....they see the writing on the wall and where they can get more market share.

The force awakens was a girl centered story...as was much of rogue one.

You're fighting a battle against the storm here. I wasn't talking about the box office results from
TFA...I was talking about the core Star Wars audience.

Say they make another movie that has a specific male lead? Do you think those demographics won't slide backwards?

The force awakens had a $1 bil/$2 bil take...those weren't first time viewers...Star Wars is unique in its theater repeat business. Maybe the demographics evened out on the repeat business? Cause it's great if it did for the unisex appeal. But I'm not sure that's a guaranteed trend.

I'll hypothesize this:
The demographics of the last Jedi ticket buyers can be predicted the minute any of us see it. Because it depends on the story arc.

If daisy ridely is the only hero/serious character that dominates screen time again...and the rest are ancillary/comic relief...then i see more close to 50/50.

But...If mark hamill is given the show...and the core audience gets beamed back to the Carter/Reagan years in our backyard...we'll be lining up down the block for 6 trips. ...Get out my way...

That's MY childhood, baby...and Luke, Vader, and Yoda are the pillars of the whole franchise. Ford was window dressing (unlike Indy). Irvin Kirshner pegged that 35 years ago. And it's kinda sad that George Lucas never seemed to get that.

Anyway...back to the news desk..

 

[lockedoutlogic]

lockedoutlogic, I will have to read through and respond later, just wanted to state that I was referencing what the fans could do with such a resort. Even if Disney's vision isn't spectacular, if the scenary is right then fans could still make a great experience running their own stories.

Right...and that's why this might be the ultimate wdw "wait and see". Just don't assume they know exactly what to do...this is well off the map for them. Honestly as Star Wars as a whole still kinda is...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

We should never speak of them - except the costumes they created, which were beautiful.

The Portman get ups?

Honestly I hate them as much as jar jar...