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@DisneyMandC I don't think you'd run into any issues. That sounds cool! I'd love to see pics :) I'm terrified of horses but I think they are beautiful animals.

I don't have a picture of my work handy at the moment, but if you Google search "horse hunter braids" that's what I do!

@DisneyMandC, have you met @brownhaired_girl? She runs a stable and is a fellow CIP cardholder.

I haven't! Thanks for the intro! @brownhaired_girl , did you put down horse-related business expenses for your CIP? My husband actually DOES run an ebay selling/fulfillment by Amazon side hustle that he's made a pretty decent amount of money on, so I will probably put that down for the CIP. I think I may try the horse braiding for the Marriott biz though. We travel a lot for horse shows so the Marriott points would definitely be of great value to us.
 
I have another quick question.... Offers on my Delta card.
Does anyone here know if you buy the Hilton gift cards, and get 20% back, can you use these to pay on your room.
It specifically mentions dining, shops, etc...
While it doesn't mention using it to pay for your room... it says 'Can not be used to hold a room reservation'.

We are looking at a future stay at a Hilton.
Thanks!
 
I don't have a picture of my work handy at the moment, but if you Google search "horse hunter braids" that's what I do!



I haven't! Thanks for the intro! @brownhaired_girl , did you put down horse-related business expenses for your CIP? My husband actually DOES run an ebay selling/fulfillment by Amazon side hustle that he's made a pretty decent amount of money on, so I will probably put that down for the CIP. I think I may try the horse braiding for the Marriott biz though. We travel a lot for horse shows so the Marriott points would definitely be of great value to us.

If DH goes for the CIP, make sure he refers you for your own (you'll want to keep those Amazon/eBay and horse braiding expenses separate ::yes::) so he can get the referral bonus and both of you can get the signup bonuses!
 
If DH goes for the CIP, make sure he refers you for your own (you'll want to keep those Amazon/eBay and horse braiding expenses separate ::yes::) so he can get the referral bonus and both of you can get the signup bonuses!

Thanks! Yes, that is definitely my plan. Going to see how are expenses are lining up for the summer to determine when to get them. I can probably knock out the 3k Marriott spend pretty quickly and then will get DH the CIP most likely. I have a hotel stay for work in August that's about $1100 so I want to have a card in rotation then for mandatory spend.

NOT asking for a referral here, but is there a referral for the Marriott biz?
 
Which card should we get next Amex Hilton Biz or Marriott Biz? We need both.

2019 trips - Jan - Disney for marathon weekend. Stay at the Dolphin for 5 nights. We would need 120k Marriott points - currently have 20k - need 2 card.

June - Hawaii - need 180k points for 3 nights at Hilton Hawaii village. need 2 cards.

Is it Hilton that allows you to book even if you don't have all the points? Or is it Marriott?

We can only spend about $1,500 a month, so can't get 2 cards at once.
 
That 3k is a much easier spend for me than the 5k. Hope this offer last for awhile. I can't take on anymore spend right now (stressing over how much I bit off already!!).
Same. I'm so tempted but need to keep plugging away at my cashback cards.
 
My 2 Cents...this Marriott Business offer is phenomenal! I don't ever recall seeing the AF waived on the biz card! If Marriott/SPG points are on your list I'd strongly consider this one...you can get it when over 5/24 and it doesn't hurt your 5/24 status.

I think it is LITERALLY the only Chase card that you can say both of those statements about!
So I'm 12/24, is Marriott Biz likely to be approved? (I have 5 personal Chase cards). I do have an actual rental property to use as a business. Not that it makes a profit, but still
 
Thanks! Yes, that is definitely my plan. Going to see how are expenses are lining up for the summer to determine when to get them. I can probably knock out the 3k Marriott spend pretty quickly and then will get DH the CIP most likely. I have a hotel stay for work in August that's about $1100 so I want to have a card in rotation then for mandatory spend.

NOT asking for a referral here, but is there a referral for the Marriott biz?
To my knowledge no referrals on Marriott Biz
 
So I'm 12/24, is Marriott Biz likely to be approved? (I have 5 personal Chase cards). I do have an actual rental property to use as a business. Not that it makes a profit, but still
My DP is old on this one but in August 2016 I was approved for Marriott Biz while at 20/24.
 
Thanks for that. I have looked at the Blue Cash Preferred before, but since we do not spend that much on groceries (probably only $1,500 annually), after doing the math, we are still almost $1k under to break even from our current bonus card.

Just an fyi, buying GC's from your grocery store does count and you earn 6% back on those too. Couple that with any other grocery store promos on GC's, and that can be a pretty good deal.

@CoP Luv , what @wendow mentioned is exactly what I was alluding to in terms of the 6K annual limit. Wasn't sure if you factors in GCs in your breakeven calculation because while 6K in organic grocery spending can be a lot for most, coupled with giftcards for things like gas (when it's not a rotating category for CF/Discover), Amazon, restaurants, etc., it can then make a lot of sense for many people. But if you already took into consideration GCs, then makes sense shying away from it. I personally love the card :)

What is the one that does count?

Capital One...
when looking that one up, it says Discover too. I didnt know there was a Discover business card.
Also recall Capital One pulls from all 3 bureaus too.

edit: apparently Barclay as well.

CapOne Biz definitely counts. I am a recent DP (Spark Biz). :groom:
 
My 2 Cents...this Marriott Business offer is phenomenal! I don't ever recall seeing the AF waived on the biz card! If Marriott/SPG points are on your list I'd strongly consider this one...you can get it when over 5/24 and it doesn't hurt your 5/24 status.

I think it is LITERALLY the only Chase card that you can say both of those statements about!

I figure to be safe (under 5/24) I need to wait to get the CIP for myself. You all think I could get the Marriott Business now and then be ok for approval on CIP? Anyone know if the Marriott Business you need to be no other cards within 30 days like the CIP? Decisions.

I would just have DH get it now but since his identity information was stolen last year there is the fraud alert and he always has to talk to them. Which is so not fun and some drama.
 
Hello Disers Credit Card experts,

I am very new in this business and have read the first 20 something pages is this thread and the last 100 or so. So my brain is trying to process all this awesome information you posted.
I am nowhere close to my 5/24 limit with chase. In fact I have only opened 3 credit cards and 2 of them were open over 10 years ago.
Because of all your information and tips I made my DH open the SW business card since he does have a business and he will apply for the personal one in a couple weeks.
After we have done the 7K in the bonus spending I would like to get a card that will help us get free flights down to Brazil ( I try to visit my family 1 a year) now that there are 4 of us is getting supper pricey.
We usually fly AA from Boston to São Paulo but I am open to any Airlines.
Would a Starwood Cardbe better in my case since it is transferable to so many airlines?
Or should I go with CSR-CSP route? 8K is a bit high but I think it would be doable.
Will I be able to use UR for flights to Brazil?

Thank you so much for your insight!
 
For people trying to maximize points and miles earned on every dollar spent or meet a large minimum spending requirement, a lot of their biggest expenses don't accept credit cards for payment. That's spend that is not earning you any bonuses or rewards back. Plastiq is a bill pay service that is useful for bills or expenses that don't otherwise accept credit cards or otherwise charge a larger fee. Plastiq charges a 2.5% transaction fee for all credit card payments, and can be used to pay most bills.

(Visa and Amex don't allow their cards to be used on Plastiq to pay for mortgages, and some people have reported trouble getting car payments to go through. However, there are still gaps in these restricted kind of payments, like using @vanjust14 's trick to get around Plastiq's blacklist to pay her mortgage company.)

In most cases, yes, Plastiq's 2.5% fee would be a major cost that would eat into the credit card rewards and bonuses. However, it makes sense to use Plastiq in two situations:

1. When you pay bills through Plastiq using the CIP set as the payment method. Bills paid through Plastiq with the CIP currently earn 3x UR on the principal amount and the fee, thereby negating the fee.

So if I have a bill for $1,000 and pay a 2.5% fee of $25, I'll earn 3x UR back on that $1,025 when I use my CIP, earning 3,075 UR points, which is worth at least $30.75 if I decided to cash out the points or receive a statement credit where 1 UR = 1¢. This is like buying 1 UR, which is worth 1¢, for 0.81¢. If I transfer the 3,075 UR points to my CSR account, they are worth 50% more, or $46.12, towards travel booked on the Chase UR portal.

I think the CIP is the only card that still earns 3x points on Plastiq. Keep in mind that Plastiq could change how it codes payments on the CIP at any time, and has in the past. Last year, in early summer, the CSR and CIP earned 3x UR for paying rents and mortgages through Plastiq, because Plastiq was coding these payments as lodging and therefore earned 3x under travel. That came to an end after about 3 months. Then the CIP started earning 3x UR on, I believe, all kinds of payments (I earn 3x on my rent, utilities, student loans and DD's tuition with CIP through Plastiq). It's still coding this way, so get in while the gettin's good. (Plus you have a minimum spend to meet on the CIP, right?)

2. When you are trying to meet a minimum spending requirement on a new credit card with a big bonus. Some cards carry big bonuses, but also large spending requirements. For example, if you got the Amex Business Rewards Gold with a 75,000 MR points signup bonus, but you don't think you can meet a $5,000 or $10,000 spend in 3 months, rather than give up on the signup bonus that's worth at least $750, you start to think how much you might fall short, and what bills might not otherwise take credit cards but you can move over to Plastiq. Say that $1,000 bill from above would help you meet the minimum spend on your new Amex card. You'll pay the $25 fee to Plastiq, and it won't earn you 3x back like on the CIP, but it will have helped you get a bonus worth much more than what you paid in fees.

ETA: I should have said three situations. Plastiq occasionally has promotions that reduce the fees when you pay with certain brands of credit cards, give you rebates on certain kinds of payments, give you a "fee free" month if you schedule recurring payments for a certain amount of time, and "fee free dollars" or no fees on like $1000 when you refer new users. These all would lessen the cost of the promoted kinds of payments through Plastiq.

Thank you! Well our mortgage is $4k so I could knock out my $5k min spend feb1. How far in advance do I need to send the payment thru plastique for it to arrive on time?




@jhoannam....I can’t speak to marriott, but for Hilton you need the points in your acct to book with them.
 
Hello Disers Credit Card experts,

I am very new in this business and have read the first 20 something pages is this thread and the last 100 or so. So my brain is trying to process all this awesome information you posted.
I am nowhere close to my 5/24 limit with chase. In fact I have only opened 3 credit cards and 2 of them were open over 10 years ago.
Because of all your information and tips I made my DH open the SW business card since he does have a business and he will apply for the personal one in a couple weeks.
After we have done the 7K in the bonus spending I would like to get a card that will help us get free flights down to Brazil ( I try to visit my family 1 a year) now that there are 4 of us is getting supper pricey.
We usually fly AA from Boston to São Paulo but I am open to any Airlines.
Would a Starwood Cardbe better in my case since it is transferable to so many airlines?
Or should I go with CSR-CSP route? 8K is a bit high but I think it would be doable.
Will I be able to use UR for flights to Brazil?

Thank you so much for your insight!

Welcome!
Lain just posted a great write up on paying bills through plastique to help hit the min spends quickly. Read through that info. I am new to it myself.

I’d probably go csr/csp because you can book thru their portal for 1.5x points with the csr OR you can transfer to many airlines if it works out better that way. It takes some price comparison.

Congrats on the SW biz. You are halfway to a companion pass!
 
Capital One...
when looking that one up, it says Discover too. I didnt know there was a Discover business card.
Also recall Capital One pulls from all 3 bureaus too.

edit: apparently Barclay as well.
Barclay has only ever pulled TU for me. But, I've never gotten a Barclay Biz card.
 
Thank you! Well our mortgage is $4k so I could knock out my $5k min spend feb1. How far in advance do I need to send the payment thru plastique for it to arrive on time?

Not so fast!

Last year, Visa issued new guidelines to Plastiq that disallowed the use of Visa credit cards for payment of mortgages. Since then, Amex issued similar rules for their cards and Plastiq has been tightening up on these kinds of transactions when using Visa or Amex cards. If you try to make a payment to a mortgage provider or servicer, especially if it's a big or well known company, Plastiq will probably return an error, tell you that it can't process the payment, and to use a MasterCard or Discover card instead. My guess is to comply with Visa's and Amex’s policy, Plastiq has a blacklist of mortgage providers and servicers that prevent payment if you try to pay any off that list using a Visa or Amex.

However, there are still gaps in this policy and you may still be able to slip your mortgage payment through the system!

What is your mortgage company? Your mortgage company is probably already in Plastiq's system and blocked for Visa and Amex cards.

First, you have to understand that Plastiq has a list of "recipients" or payees already in their system. These recipients are likely pre-programmed in by Plastiq or have previously received payments from Plastiq's users. Plastiq will probably have gone through its database of recipients and flagged most mortgage providers or servicers to reject payments using Visa or Amex cards. So when setting up your mortgage payment recipient, don’t accept Plastiq’s autofill because it’s probably on their blacklist. Fill in the recipient details yourself and try to change the name or address just enough that it’ll get where it needs to go, but might slip through Plastiq’s block. You may have to try a few variations to get it to work with the CIP.

This is how @vanjust14 got her mortgage payment to Provident to process through Plastiq: https://www.disboards.com/threads/i-love-credit-cards-so-much.3528202/page-567#post-58604302

Next, by setting up a "new" recipient, you will not have a prior established relationship with the payee. You've never paid this "recipient" before, and this "recipient" is not in Plastiq's database. Plastiq has a tendency to code the first payment on a Visa to a new recipient as a cash advance. You don't want this to happen because cash advances don't count towards your minimum spend and carry fees. Before you make any payments on Plastiq, you should send a secure message to Chase asking they reduce your cash advance limit to the minimum amount allowed (@vanjust14 posted that it's $100 on the CIP). This way, if Plastiq or any other transaction does code as a cash advance, you're not hit too hard. Alternatively, you can establish a relationship with a new recipient by making a small payment using another card like an Amex or MasterCard, which don't code payments to a new recipient as a cash advance. For example, you can send $20 to your mortgage company, thereby establishing a relationship; then switch to the CIP for the balance of the payment.

Payments are usually sent by check (sometimes via electronic payment), which takes 7-10 business days to arrive to your recipient. When you're setting up your payment, you're given a calendar and can select the date you want the check to arrive. I always try to have a payment arrive a few days before it's due so I have time in case any issues come up. So it's too late to set up a payment for a mortgage due on February 1 (you would've had to schedule it by about the 20th). But you'll have some time to figure your way around Plastiq before your next mortgage payment is due.

If you plan to sign up for Plastiq, you may want to do so through a referral link because it'll give you $500 "fee free dollars" after you spend $500. This means after you spend your first $500, Plastiq will waive the 2.5% fee on the next $500 in payments ($12.50).
 
@Lain I didn't even think to try paying my mortgage using one of the Amex's I'm trying to meet spend on. I guess I thought Amex was totally out and not even an option to sneak it through. Have you seen any DP's about whether people are able to sneak them through Amex at all? I'd sure like to use one of those cards for March if I could...even with the hefty fee, it would be worth it to me.
 
Thank you! Well our mortgage is $4k so I could knock out my $5k min spend feb1. How far in advance do I need to send the payment thru plastique for it to arrive on time?

Before the rules changed, Plastiq would send an ACH to my mortgage company and it only took 3-5 business days for it to post. Now, since they have to mail a check, plastiq wants 7-10 business days. You should also check what is the latest your mortgage company allows payment. I have Provident and they allow payment until the 5th or 6th.
 
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