Disney Resorts to start charging parking fees....

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Been on DCL twice, and might try another cruise line at some point. But actual trips into the parks are going to become fewer and farther between for us. Going this June for a short resort only stay and I am looking so forward to it, but it might be a while before we invest in any tickets to the world.

Just a warning lol if you have only done DCL for a cruise you may be underwhelmed with another line ... I know I can’t do another line after DCL ... it’s like a deluxe resort with deluxe dining for one cost , I do love DCL does not nickel and dime as much as others.
 
I am trying to think all of this through. Our family always stays at a FW cabin, which is a moderate. So this will now include a $19/night charge for overnight parking. But we will still get free parking at the theme parks since we are onsite resort guests, correct?

If we moved offsite- we’d have to now pay for theme park parking (which looks like $22/45 for car per day depending on preferred spot or not). Would we be saving overall if we moved offsite even though we now have to pay for theme park parking? I am not aware how much you can save if you stay offsite, I’ve never looked into it. I am considering all options now.
I think free parking at the theme parks may be at risk. The website had a lot of changes yesterday which made things unclear about that.
 
I for one am super excited to go to Disney and have zero lines at attractions since everyone here is going to be vacationing elsewhere lol. Well worth $15-24 more per day.
Except not as many people are on here that visit Disney ... this is a drop in the pan of their guests ..
 
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Disney should charge or that it should be expected - but I'm just saying that an adult who travels and has never had to pay to park at a hotel blows my mind a little bit.

For years, every time we booked a hotel anywhere, free parking was advertised as one of it's perks. I always thought it was kind of a strange perk to advertise since I had never been to a hotel where parking was not included. I guess we all have different experiences depending on where we travel.
 
Manhattan is smaller than Disney World, and it has over 1.5 million people living there, not to mention the gobs more working and visiting there each day. Huge difference.
I understand, but WDW has more than ample parking...why all of a sudden does WDW want to charge? My point is exactly what you made...NYC has limited parking, WDW does not. It would be different if people were having trouble finding parking.
 
I have been saying this all along. When the economy takes a turn, they will have to resort to promotions that are unthinkable today. I remember a promotion in the early 2000’s that you paid for 4 nights and received 3 nights free. I remember even booking a 7 for 3 deal. At that time the parks were in extremely poor condition because Disney cut maintenance and labor costs severely. Ride vehicles were not cleaned, trash everywhere, etc. It would be sad to see it get to that level again.
We got the 4 and 3 deal in 2003. We were going to stay outside the main gate, and the CM told us about the deal.
 
I am pretty sure I've read every post (maybe I missed some) and I don't remember anyone belittling those who this does bother. Some posters truly don't think it's a big deal. Just like some guests don't think it's a big deal to drop over $2k per night for a Poly Bungalow. Those folks are entitled to their feelings also. We can have different feelings/opinions about this.

Having said that, I hate this even though it doesn't affect us because we don't have a car with us.

Not specifically talking about this forum although there are a few snarky people. I'm mostly referring to the brutal people on Facebook in the various Disney groups. They are just beyond obnoxious.
 
so now overnight resort guests pay to park their cars, while day guests continue to park at the resorts for free?

so last august, i would have had to pay an additional $576.00 to park our rental car at SSR during our stay?

i really thought the more than $12,000 we paid to stay there for 24 days was more than enough.

perhaps disney has finally managed to reach my tipping point...

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I am thinking the same thing. We fly & use a town car service, so we won't have to pay this parking fee. But it still ticks me off.

First, the rates they are charging are certainly more than enough to cover what it costs to provide a parking space to a guest. It's not like they are giving you valet or a covered, reserved spot for your money. No, it will be the same, "park it yourself if you can find a space" situation that it is now. It doesn't cost Disney anywhere near what they will take in to provide the service they are now charging for. I am just going to give a hypothetical, since I have absolutely no knowledge of how many guests actually have a can to park. But let's assume 100 cars parked per night at a deluxe resort. That is $2400 a day. $876,000 a year. From just 100 cars at a deluxe resort. I can't even imagine the profit they are going to make from this..

Second thing at ticks me off is charging a resort guest but letting Day visitors park for free. I am paying close to $5000 for our trip in September. That's just for the resort. We have APs, Tables in Wonderland card & eat at table service for most meals. But apparently Disney cares more about the couple bucks they might make off someone who wants to look around, maybe pick up a souvenirs at the gift shop or eat something than they do about the hundreds per night I am already guaranteeing them. And no, I don't want the day guest to pay to park. I just don't think anyone should.
 
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I understand, but WDW has more than ample parking...why all of a sudden does WDW want to charge? My point is exactly what you made...NYC has limited parking, WDW does not. It would be different if people were having trouble finding parking.

I was agreeing with you and backing up what you were saying. There's a ton of room at WDW. :thumbsup2
 
I keep seeing conflicting comments. Are they going to add the parking fee to everyone automatically, or only if you have a car? Because if they truly have no gate or anything then 1) how will they know who has a car and who doesn’t, and 2) how will they enforce it?

In the past, when you enter the parking lot, there is someone at the gate with a folder of "Parking passes" (A sheet of printed paper that gives your resort and dates of stay) they hand it to you, you put it on your dashboard and that is the end. You dont pay for parking anywhere you go on property.

I am guessing, that now, if you enter with your car, before you get the golden parking pass, they will scan your magic band and you will be charged to receive that ticket for your length of stay. Thats my guess....

Obviously if you are on the express or in a UBER/TAXI, they will just waive the driver through and you will not be charged anything.

If you go in saying youre a diner, I know they check at the monorail hotels and also TC/BC. I dont recall anyone checking at the other resorts. So while their looking up your dining reservation and see youre also checking in, that could send up a flag to be questioned.

The only way I can see getting through the gate without a lookup its to say you are shopping. If you suceed with that and your car is parked overnight without a pass on the dashboard, will they tow it? Not sure how they would find you unless they have a guard at your car waiting for you to leave. Will they hand out tickets to shoppers and verify when they leave how long they have been there? I dont know.
 
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Times are changing. A decade ago, free valet parking (not counting tip) was the norm throughout Las Vegas resorts. Now they charge $15 a day for self-park.

Plenty of free parking used to expected in the wide-open South and West. More recently, it's a lot of empty pay lots.
Yep, and that is precisely why I stayed at a time share resort that had no parking or resort fees instead of the big casino resorts when I was in Vegas this past January. I avoid staying places that nickel and dime me if at all possible. I feel it is a shady business model and it rubs me the wrong way. BTW, the place I stayed in Vegas was called the Desert Rose Resort if any of you are ever in Vegas and are as sick of all these fees as I am. It was a great place.
 
Geez folks....technology is an amazing thing. A couple of responses to a few points...

1. "How will they know when my reservation was made?" Simple...technology. As soon as your reservation pops up, their computer systems can tell EXACTLY when your reservation was made..right down to the minute/second. If it was made after March 21st, the IT system will know and will automatically assess a parking charge. This isn't even something the cast member will have to punch in...the computer will automatically have it on file.

2. "How will they know the difference between "overnight guests", "day guests", "uber/taxi", etc?" Simple...the same as nearly every other parking system works in the US. If you have a reservation, you check in at the gate when you enter (either by magic band, or manually with the gate attendant). If you have a reservation, your parking charge is automatically billed to your portfolio for the length of your stay. If you say you are being dropped off and you don't have a car, or you have a dinner reservation, or you're just there to shop and explore the resort, etc...the driver is issued a time-stamped ticket that he/she will have to present when leaving the resort. If your ticket shows you're over whatever allotted time, YOU ARE CHARGED FOR PARKING. If you lie up front about just being a day guest, you'll get busted when you attempt to leave the parking lot a few days later, and you'll pay for parking before you're able to exit. Again, this really isn't that hard to figure out.

Don't know about all of the motels/resorts, but at the All-Stars, they don't check people leaving. I'm not sure they could even do that without some additions. They would need to add a guard gate, extend the guard shack a few feet toward the exit side, and hire an additional CM for each shift/resort or make the current one pull double duty. The latter option would create even longer lines to get in and either would create long lines to get out. If they think complaints are bad now, wait until someone misses their ADR or FP Window because they got stuck in a 30 minute line to get out of the parking lot. Plus, at least at the All-Stars, I saw Disney buses sitting, waiting in the backup at the entrance. They would be stuck at the exit also unless they gave them some other way out.

Now, how to do it. Best Western DS has cards (like room keys) that you use to access the overnight parking lot, but I cannot see this working at the All-Stars due to the way their parking lot is laid out. The most likely solution would be parking passes, but they would have to patrol the entire lot every night looking for violators. Doable, but it would take the CMs away from doing other things...like tossing guests' cells (err, I mean checking rooms) every day. Probably the easiest way would be to implement the charge at the guard gate when you enter. If you drive in, they bill you for length of stay. That would be easy, but without parking passes, easily defeated by simply parking at another resort and claiming to be a day guest (for free parking) or using someone else's MB to park at your own motel/resort as a day guest.

Possibly, but in that case, wouldn't they have to pay the parks' parking fees anyway? So for someone who opts to stay off-site solely to avoid Disney's parking fee and will still visit the parks each day, I'd have to wonder what the actual savings is in terms of parking fees... not much I bet. I realize a lot of off-site properties provide a greater savings than just parking, but you are trading convenience and the Disney bubble for a cost savings, be it significant or not. It just depends on what's important to everyone.

As a passholder, I don't pay to park at the parks, so this would create an incentive to stay offsite. As long as they keep theme park parking free for onsite guests, you are probably right.

The savings can be quite significant, depending on where you’re moving from on property to where you’re moving off property. I’m paying $431 per night to stay at the Poly in October (with no parking fee since I’m already booked). I did a little perusing yesterday out of curiosity and found several offsite choices that, even factoring in parking at the parks, were significantly cheaper (between $100-200 per night in most cases). If I were moving from, say ASM, then no, I probably wouldn’t save anything. I see very little convenience to being in the Disney bubble - there are several off-site hotels just as close to the parks as the on-site hotels.

A motel comparable to the All-Stars could be had for $70 offsite with free parking, but you lose the "Bubble" and 60 Day FP Window. For late (under 30 day) reservations, the latter doesn't matter and I don't personally feel a "Bubble" at the All-Stars and as you noted, there are offsite hotels that are almost as close (there are several very convenient to AK). I might at a Deluxe, but that's out of my price range. In those cases, I'll usually stay offsite offsite.

Another thought is this will put a little more space between the cost of onsite and offsite for us passholders. At some point (and for some folks, this point has already come), it will be significantly cheaper (for those who prefer the great indoors) to just stay offsite and book a throwaway campsite for the 60 Day FP window or stay at a Disney Springs (Hotel Blvd) hotel. It certainly pushes me towards Disney Springs or The Swolphin (if I want a Deluxe experience).

Has anyone gotten any word if annual passholders receive free parking at resorts? I would think that it makes sense given that they have free parking visiting the parks but haven't been able to find anything on it.

Unfortunately, the answer appears to be no. If they had, it probably would have blunted the complaints a lot. Plus, it could have added an incentive for more people to go with APs. That said, I feel Disney prefers to have the parks full of Day Ticket guests rather than us passholders, so that probably played no small part in their decision.
 
I have seen speculation that there are goals of this charge in addition to just the increased profit.
One suggestion is that they want to reduce traffic onsite.
Another is that they want to make guests dependent on Disney for transportation, which will keep them onsite.
Among travelers who fly, I can see where this new fee may deter them from renting a car.

We, however, almost always drive. But we don't usually drive around much once we are on property. Typically, we depend upon Disney transportation and we always stay "in the Disney bubble." So our vacation behavior is currently what Disney supposedly wants. We neither add to traffic congestion nor spend money outside of WDW.
For our family, the new fee will change this. We will most likely stay off-site, and will use our car the entire vacation. We will add to the traffic tie-ups, and it will be easy to eat and shop once we leave property.

It would make more sense, in my opinion, for Disney to charge a fee to use your car on site; but parking it in a long-term lot once you get there would be free.
This way folks who drive still have a choice whether or not to use their car and pay a "car use conveniece/hotel-adjacent parking fee" or park in a less-convenient long-term lot, further away. If it meant no parking fee, I know my family would be willing to do this. Obviously, free resort parking would be better, but at least this would keep drivers on property.
 
I decided to get an AP pass this January when my face was strapped to CT scanner via a mask of my face getting radiation treatment for a cancerous tumor on my scalp. I had to do 5 days a week for 6 weeks to help lower my cancer from coming back. I found out about the cancer a couple weeks before my Disney trip last September. Had surgery two days after coming back. So I thought returning to WDW after being done with treatment would be way to celebrate.

Have a trip at Pop booked end April already was going to book bounce back for end of September. I live in Atlanta. Flying vs Driving is about same time but I don’t really like to fly. Last year I stayed at AKL used car 3 times to go to TL, DS, BB because bus transportation stinks to those places. I decided not to drive for ADR to Cape May because parking was problematic there. It took a hour plus to get back via DS because Epcot and HS where closed when finished. I didn’t use my car to go spend money outside of Disney. I used it to spend more money in Disney.

This parking charge has left me infuriated for 2 days. I have inquired about DVC rentals, began looking at offsite. I rather give $2000 and pay to park at Dolphin than give Disney more money.

You deserve the AP and wishing you good health to enjoy your vacations. I agree about TL and BB , we only go if we have a car as the busses can take up to two hours. Enjoy your Pop trip next month and go ahead book the bounceback if they offer something good or find something off-site.
 
I have seen speculation that there are goals of this charge in addition to just the increased profit.
One suggestion is that they want to reduce traffic onsite.
Another is that they want to make guests dependent on Disney for transportation, which will keep them onsite.
Among travelers who fly, I can see where this new fee may deter them from renting a car.

We, however, almost always drive. But we don't usually drive around much once we are on property. Typically, we depend upon Disney transportation and we always stay "in the Disney bubble." So our vacation behavior is currently what Disney supposedly wants. We neither add to traffic congestion nor spend money outside of WDW.
For our family, the new fee will change this. We will most likely stay off-site, and will use our car the entire vacation. We will add to the traffic tie-ups, and it will be easy to eat and shop once we leave property.

It would make more sense, in my opinion, for Disney to charge a fee to use your car on site; but parking it in a long-term lot once you get there would be free.
This way folks who drive still have a choice whether or not to use their car and pay a "car use conveniece/hotel-adjacent parking fee" or park in a less-convenient long-term lot, further away. If it meant no parking fee, I know my family would be willing to do this. Obviously, free resort parking would be better, but at least this would keep drivers on property.

As you say, driving ( :drive:!!) people off-site will just add to the traffic from off-site, which still ends up on-site. I know moving off-site means having to pay at the park car lots, but I think this has gone beyond just money.

Also, I get what you're saying about their goal of reducing traffic on-site (despite your good point above :)), but wouldn't they need to be actively confirming it (not leaving it to rumor) as well as the ways in which they are improving Disney transportation (monorail and buses, specifically) for this to be true - and to work?! After all guests languishing at bus stops and on buses aren't spending money! ;);)


Also, I think, people had got so used to staying on-site, many might have forgotten the joys of off-site (nicer, larger accommodation, cheaper, better customer service etc.) (BTW I know there are cons, too) and as they rediscover the benefits Disney may lose more guests in the long-run this way, too.
 
Now that we have confirmation and some details, I'm going to re-post an idea I shared yesterday on this (then rumoured) topic:

Why not just charge resort guests a flat fee at the gate each time they LEAVE the parking lot??

So if you're a week-long guest that's arrived in your car, but you don't drive it anywhere, you pay for parking only once when you leave.

But if you brought your car to Disney with the intention of driving every day (to Universal, and/or adding to road congestion by driving to the Disney parks), you either pay more for that privilege, or you take advantage of a financial incentive to drive less.

And if you're legitimately at a resort for dinner or shopping, your ticket is easily validated at the point-of-sale for 3 hours of free parking.

This would avoid penalizing resort guests who a) need or prefer to drive to Disney, and b) stay in the 'bubble' their entire trip and take Disney transportation everywhere.

Our family is usually both a) and b) described above. But if we start paying a daily fee to park a car we're not using, 'll actually feel MORE inclined to drive in order to get more value from this new expense.

Not unless they make some significant improvements to their onsite transportation.

Not sure if anyone mentioned this in the previous posts, but does anybody think this will make Disney transportation slower, due to more people foregoing renting a car and just taking Magical Express from the airport?

Absolutely and if history is a guide, I don't expect to see Disney do anything to fix the issue either.

I just sent off my emails as I wanted to sleep on it for the night.

I expressed my opinion that based on my extensive travel in the U.S. that this is NOT industry standard at resorts with similar setups and space. I also challenged them on their selectively myopic view of industry standards, and asked when we could expect other industry standards to come to WDW resorts such as complementary breakfast, loyalty programs that allow us to earn points towards perks and free nights, complementary lotion (as inexplicably I can get this at every other hotel I have ever stayed in the U.S., but not at many WDW resorts), as well as true club-level service.

I also asked what they would be doing to ensure that their transportation systems are able to handle the guests being pushed to WDW transportation, including appropriately dispatching the correct number of buses so as not to exceed 20 minute waits and so that everyone at a stop could get on the first bus, properly maintaining and bringing the monorail up to industry standards, and addressing the transportation to water parks.

I also asked why resort guests must pay a fee, but day guests, who take up many spaces especially at deluxe resorts are not included, and asked if because resort guests are now paying for space if they can be assured that a space will be open for them, and if not, how they will be refunding the parking fee.

Not to mention, industry standard pricing.

May not get them a lot more business since the Swan/Dolphin has a $20 per day parking fee plus a nightly $25 resort fee (which may be waived for those at a high level of their loyalty program though. The resort fee, not the parking).

$31.50 Resort Fee last I checked. That said, The Swolphin is usually significantly cheaper than comparable Disney resorts even with the added fees. I've even seen both under $100/night (before the taxes and fees) on random days (orphan rooms between conventions/events). Plus, I earn starpoints and status with SPG/Marriott there. I have already stayed 4 nights at SPG Hotels completely free this year on points earned from paid stays at SPG Hotels and my SPG Amex.
 
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