Despite what many think, MOST locals live normal lives with normal jobs that we go off to every day, just like everyone else. Please don’t judge ‘locals’ by what see of the YouTubers. MOST locals would pursue a boarding pass the same way we do a FastPass+ when we are planning to head to the parks. MOST locals could not care less to try and steal all the boarding passes every day.
If there's no consequences of not going and not using it, I would try oftenWell, I know plenty of non-youtuber locals that would definitely try quite often
Might not be "most" but definitely some that would give it a try ... And also those down there on vacation are more likely to try without have to get there early but can try from their hotel rooms
If there's no consequences of not going and not using it, I would try often
I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of people who would join a lottery just incase and then decide to go if they got a BG, because there's nothing to lose and little effort required.
You are making assumptions based on anecdotal data about the number of WDW locals who match this visit profile. Nearly all locals (I'm one of them) do not spend all their waking days visiting the parks; it just does not happen. You are basing your impression on an inside-the-bubble view of bloggers/vloggers that although it seems a huge number is just not all that many people as a percentage of the local population of AP holders or day visitors. Most normal locals have to work at normal jobs and have the opportunity to visit the parks maybe on the weekends or other days they have off work during the week. They do not care about trying to get a FP or Boarding Group every day of the week- they have to work those days.
We heard exactly the same fear being spread when they finally opened up FP+ reservations to AP holders without a resort reservation and it came to absolutely nothing. Despite what you see on the Internet, most locals have normal lives and have to mow the lawn, and go to the grocery store or take kids to soccer practice, etc.. They do not live their lives focused totally on WDW every single day.
If Bob from Orlando usually visits WDW on weekends and a weekday here and there, and really loves ROTR, why would Bob not attempt to join the lottery every day (or most days) he already considered going to WDW?
The BG system is disconnected from everything else, meaning Bob can carry on with his regular plans and not have to choose a lottery attempt instead of something else. While he may not show up at DHS for 7 most weekends and the random weekdays he can go to the parks (because he likes ROTR, but not enough go through the effort to ride it most days he goes to WDW), I totally disagree that he wouldn’t be much more inclined to try and get a BG from home for those days.
The comparison to FP+ isn’t a great one, IMO. FP+ are not hard to come by the same way BG are, and are not required for an attraction. The need to grab one just incase isn’t there in the same way.
If BG were obtained from outside the parks in a lottery type system, everyone across the board would attempt it more, from Disney obsessed bloggers who live in Orlando, to once in a life time guests. There would have to be some sort of limit or requirement to be met. Just the people who are willing to get to the park by 7 AM can currently fill all the spaces.
It effectively both culls the heard from tourists (onsite & off) while allowing locals a fair shake to grab a BGWhy not remove the requirement that you have to be in the park for the 7am boarding group distribution? There is no real need to do that, as long as you can get to the ride within an hour (or maybe 2). Eliminating the in-park requirement would (1) relieve congestion at park opening, and (2) allow people--especially those who don't win the boarding group lottery--to sleep in and/or not waste their time.
Spoke to several people in the park my 2nd day waiting for BG selection time. Majority were indeed locals who had departed the park at least once (RL obligations) when holding a later boarding groupjoining a bg from home is not a good idea. It will flood the system, crash the app, and people might change their mind taking a spot from someone who really wanted to go. Unless they charge for it in advance
I was watching a vlog from DL and the girl said she actually cancelled her bg in the hopes someone else might be able to pick it up. I'm not sure if DL is reopening bg later (I don't think they are) I think more this person didn't really understand how the system works. But she is a vlogger and a frequent DL visitor, she picked up a BG cause she was there early to go meet Minnie Mouse and then got a later bg and decided to cancel it from the parking lot.It effectively both culls the heard from tourists (onsite & off) while allowing locals a fair shake to grab a BG
Spoke to several people in the park my 2nd day waiting for BG selection time. Majority were indeed locals who had departed the park at least once (RL obligations) when holding a later boarding group
had mused what % of people have been giving up the ship on a daily basis. Assume their spots don’t go too waste’ as they should be absorbed by guests in latter BG or standby
It effectively both culls the heard from tourists (onsite & off) while allowing locals a fair shake to grab a BG
Spoke to several people in the park my 2nd day waiting for BG selection time. Majority were indeed locals who had departed the park at least once (RL obligations) when holding a later boarding group
had mused what % of people have been giving up the ship on a daily basis. Assume their spots don’t go too waste’ as they should be absorbed by guests in latter BG or standby
This has given me an idea. How about a backup-backup BG system, where you don't get an actual number but you're in line to get a canceled BG? Still hardly ideal or even convenient, but if there are really that many people canceling, this could be a sort of bonus BG for some people. Consolation prize: screenshot of Baby Yoda.Yup, that happened to me I think last week it was? Had BG 55, there were a couple of breakdowns which delayed it, and I had to leave the park to get ready for work before my BG was called.
This has given me an idea. How about a backup-backup BG system, where you don't get an actual number but you're in line to get a canceled BG? Still hardly ideal or even convenient, but if there are really that many people canceling, this could be a sort of bonus BG for some people. Consolation prize: screenshot of Baby Yoda.
That's already effectively done with backup boarding groups. If lots of people cancel or fail to show up, then they call the backup groups faster, they call more backup groups. Don't think we've ever had a situation where they got through ALL the backup groups.
Look at it this way, the first 20 backup groups are backup groups. The remaining backup groups are the backup-backup groups.
I'd be happy with the current system transformed into a morning-of lottery. (It is a de facto lottery anyway). Let people signup for boarding passes as they tap in before opening, but don't assign boarding passes until opening and assign them randomly for all those who signed up before opening. People joining boarding groups after opening go into the next BG available after the lottery.
Basically the same as what is done now, but not as frenzied and people with tech issues will have time to sort it out.
Disney does this for DVC event sign-ups and I think it works pretty well.
I'd be happy with the current system transformed into a morning-of lottery. (It is a de facto lottery anyway). Let people signup for boarding passes as they tap in before opening, but don't assign boarding passes until opening and assign them randomly for all those who signed up before opening. People joining boarding groups after opening go into the next BG available after the lottery.
Basically the same as what is done now, but not as frenzied and people with tech issues will have time to sort it out.
Disney does this for DVC event sign-ups and I think it works pretty well.