GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[godisney14]

What is the opposite of “more cases because of more testing?”



Florida is now below 20,000 tests per day in the past 2 days.
In contrast, CA has twice the population of FL, yet CA is doing almost 6x as many daily tests.

 

[Pyotr]

What is the opposite of “more cases because of more testing?”

View attachment 521786

Florida is now below 20,000 tests per day in the past 2 days.
In contrast, CA has twice the population of FL, yet CA is doing almost 6x as many daily tests.

That’s not accurate. Today Florida reported 54,571 negative tests with 3,327 positive tests.

 

[godisney14]

That’s not accurate. Today Florida reported 54,571 negative tests with 3,327 positive tests.

Nothing inaccurate about the chart I posted.
But, I did forget to state that the chart was last updated with Aug 24 numbers, and it is of just diagnostic tests. The number you are referring to is of Aug 25 from the FL DOH dataset.

And, you left out mentioning that the data you are referring to (from FL DOH) includes BOTH diagnostic and antigen tests. This is one of the sticking points that the DOH analyst that was fired by the governor’s office was arguing about how FL reports its data.

In comparison, the chart I posted shows ~19,000 diagnostic tests on Aug 24, whereas the FL DOH site has it at ~34,000 total (diagnostic and antigen tests combined).

 

[nicolita3]

186 cases today. I expect we’ll hit a steady state and stay at it until a vaccine comes out. I’m expecting future spikes around holiday gatherings. But it should be manageable.

I hope so...but I have no faith in people and I think once the weather starts improving here in AZ more people will get together and it will spike some more.

 

[Lumpy1106]

What is the opposite of “more cases because of more testing?”

View attachment 521786

Florida is now below 20,000 tests per day in the past 2 days.
In contrast, CA has twice the population of FL, yet CA is doing almost 6x as many daily tests.

Not sure this means anything. Early on there were not enough testing centers so testing was getting backed up. As testing increased, so did cases, because those backed up test were performed all at once. Now there ARE enough tests - enough for everyone that wants one and then some. Less testing now just means fewer people to test. and really, I don't understand why positivity rate should have any meaning at all. Say you had a 10% positivity rate. That means 90% of the people tested, came back negative. Why were they even tested in the first place? Should we just round up big groups of people at random and have them all tested? Your positivity rate would plummet - but would that mean anything?

 

[Lumpy1106]

I hope so...but I have no faith in people and I think once the weather starts improving here in AZ more people will get together and it will spike some more.

Isn't it like 110 in the shade there right now? Who goes outside in that heat? Indoor gatherings and cases should go down once everyone can go back outside.

 

[nicolita3]

Isn't it like 110 in the shade there right now? Who goes outside in that heat? Indoor gatherings and cases should go down once everyone can go back outside.

Yes its been a horrible summer and there have been several records broken because of the heat. I don't think very many people are going out, but I am not sure they are having very many indoor gatherings either. But once it cools down a little there will be more gatherings in general (both indoor and outdoor).

 

[RamblingMad]

I hope so...but I have no faith in people and I think once the weather starts improving here in AZ more people will get together and it will spike some more.

But they’ll interact outside. We should improve into winter as the Midwest gets worse.

 

[anthony2k7]

It’s difficult for media to report follow-ups on a previous case in the US because that would require good contact tracing and privacy consent by a patient. A really hard “no” for many, if not most, in the US.

There’s nothing to be suspicious of with this latest report from HK because it is based on whole genome resequencing of the same exact patient at two different time points. I’ve been with a company that specializes in one method of WGS. This is definite proof of reinfection. The fact that this was shown to occur in Hong Kong (or any Asian country) is not surprising. And, it happened by chance, since this subject patient probably would not have been investigated had he not flown internationally. Its hard for me to believe that any US lab has collected, sequenced, and stored any one patient’s sample—again due to privacy regulations.

2 confirmed re-infection cases in Europe now as well.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...h-covid-19-for-a-second-time-reports-12056933

 

[godisney14]

Isn't it like 110 in the shade there right now? Who goes outside in that heat? Indoor gatherings and cases should go down once everyone can go back outside.

But they’ll interact outside. We should improve into winter as the Midwest gets worse.

The hopeful argument back in March (when it was still winter for parts of country) was that cases would go down in the summer as people start going out more. The argument now cannot be that case counts should improve going into winter. Colds and viruses are more prevalent during the winter.

The infectious nature of this pandemic has shown it is not seasonal.

 

[sam_gordon]

The hopeful argument back in March (when it was still winter for parts of country) was that cases would go down in the summer as people start going out more. The argument now cannot be that case counts should improve going into winter. Colds and viruses are more prevalent during the winter.

The infectious nature of this pandemic has shown it is not seasonal.

BUT, as brutally hot as it's been AND with many outdoor activities being cancelled, HAVE people been outside as much as they normally would be?

 

[godisney14]

BUT, as brutally hot as it's been AND with many outdoor activities being cancelled, HAVE people been outside as much as they normally would be?

Regardless of whether that statement is true, it doesn’t change the fact that colds and flu are worse in the winter season.

 

[RamblingMad]

BUT, as brutally hot as it's been AND with many outdoor activities being cancelled, HAVE people been outside as much as they normally would be?

My argument is that it’s less likely to spread outside than inside, where it’s harder to socially distance oneself. AZ has had one of the hottest summers on record pushing everyone indoors. I think, that’s why it has spread rapidly in the summer. I expect as it cools off with more people outdoors that it will continue to slow its spread, especially with the mask mandates.

I expect that once it cools off in the Midwest, that you’ll have a lot of people gathering indoors. And it will spread like it did in the warmer states.

I don’t think weather has any impact on the virus. But it does impact how people gather.

 

[Lumpy1106]

The hopeful argument back in March (when it was still winter for parts of country) was that cases would go down in the summer as people start going out more. The argument now cannot be that case counts should improve going into winter. Colds and viruses are more prevalent during the winter.

The infectious nature of this pandemic has shown it is not seasonal.

But AZ is backwards. People stay in when it gets to 110. Indoors = bad.

 

[RamblingMad]

2 confirmed re-infection cases in Europe now as well.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...h-covid-19-for-a-second-time-reports-12056933

Good overview of this with the latest MedCram update.

 

[RamblingMad]

But AZ is backwards. People stay in when it gets to 110. Indoors = bad.

Which is why I think we’ll be fine this winter. But I expect the Midwest to see cases go up. IL is already seeing their cases go up.

 

[godisney14]

But AZ is backwards. People stay in when it gets to 110. Indoors = bad.

You don’t think people stay inside more during the winter months in the US? Different parts of the US aren’t on the other side of the latitude.
Rain, snow, El Nina/El Nino, and the cold keeps most of America indoors during the winter months. Why do you think colds and virus are more prevalent during that time of the year

You can sticky this post.....This winter will be worse than what we’ve experienced so far as a country.

 

[nicolita3]

Which is why I think we’ll be fine this winter. But I expect the Midwest to see cases go up. IL is already seeing their cases go up.

And the snow birds will bring it with them when they come here.

 

[nicolita3]

Whats scary is that every winter the hospitals get to capacity due to the flu and increase in snow birds, what's going to happen when that is mixed with covid cases?

 

[RamblingMad]

And the snow birds will bring it with them when they come here.

I expect fewer snow birds this year. But they're pretty easy to avoid. We definitely won't see snow birds from Canada.