Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[DGsAtBLT]

Adding fast pass would just make the waits longer. Fast pass makes the standby line substantially longer.

You mean you wouldn’t love to wait in line for Haunted Mansion starting way back in Frontierland, but this time barely moving because FP+ are moving in at a much faster rate? Maybe they could play with the ratio of FP to standby? Have it available on less attractions? I’m sure making them even harder to get would make for an enjoyable experience for all but a small minority.

The only thing worse than a line stretching into another land posted at 90 minutes, is that same line stretching into another land that is actually 90 minutes (or longer).

 

[skeeter31]

You mean you wouldn’t love to wait in line for Haunted Mansion starting way back in Frontierland, but this time barely moving because FP+ are moving in at a much faster rate? Maybe they could play with the ratio of FP to standby? Have it available on less attractions? I’m sure making them even harder to get would make for an enjoyable experience for all but a small minority.

The only thing worse than a line stretching into another land posted at 90 minutes, is that same line stretching into another land that is actually 90 minutes (or longer).

Exactly, FP wouldn’t fix the length of the lines right now, they would just make those lines move much slower. Plus, there would also have to be areas for the FP line to snake through, making 2 lines winding down some of the walkways. Rides like Peter Pan routinely had a FP line that would stretch close to the carousel during pre-COVID times. Socially distanced that line wouldn’t stretch almost to Pooh.

 

[SaintsManiac]

We need some news.

In the meantime should I renew my TP subscription? What are the odds that Genie is ready next summer/fall?

 

[rteetz]

We need some news.

In the meantime should I renew my TP subscription? What are the odds that Genie is ready next summer/fall?

I think that’s up to you and how you use TP. We also don’t know all the details of Genie. I tend to enjoy/use the room finder or ADR finder tools more than the planning aspects.

 

[Farro]

We need some news.

In the meantime should I renew my TP subscription? What are the odds that Genie is ready next summer/fall?

We use TP mostly for room request - seeing the views. I love it. Although with GDT we probably won't utilize as we booked water view and my only request will be upper floors.

With no fast pass, etc., would you still find benefit in using a planning tool?

 

[SaintsManiac]

I think that’s up to you and how you use TP. We also don’t know all the details of Genie. I tend to enjoy/use the room finder or ADR finder tools more than the planning aspects.

Same. I found the Lines app to be inaccurate on our last trip.

 

[SaintsManiac]

We use TP mostly for room request - seeing the views. I love it. Although with GDT we probably won't utilize as we booked water view and my only request will be upper floors.

With no fast pass, etc., would you still find benefit in using a planning tool?

I don’t make touring plans on it. I always get mad at their advice. Lol

 

[mshanson3121]

In my province contact tracing has gotten completely overwhelmed and has basically been rendered useless. There is a lot of suspicion and concern that schools are driving our spread, good reason to believe it, but no hard evidence provided by contact tracing.

Saying this not to go OT and discuss that, but to illustrate why I think it will be quite difficult for any outbreak to be pinned on WDW when I would have to assume much of the people who go there are also going various other places, traveling to get there, contact tracing isn’t happening, etc.

This is what I've thought/said all along when people said, "But nothing's been linked!" Well no, of course not. With a such an incredibly variable incubation period (as short as 24 hours to as long as 14 days), is almost impossible for anyone to say with 100% certainty that they got Covid at Disney, unless they have been there for and only there for over 2 weeks. Because otherwise, they had exposures before they left for Disney, on their way to Disney, on their way home from Disney, once back home living their life etc...

 

[MickeyWaffles]

This is what I've thought/said all along when people said, "But nothing's been linked!" Well no, of course not. With a such an incredibly variable incubation period (as short as 24 hours to as long as 14 days), is almost impossible for anyone to say with 100% certainty that they got Covid at Disney, unless they have been there for and only there for over 2 weeks. Because otherwise, they had exposures before they left for Disney, on their way to Disney, on their way home from Disney, once back home living their life etc...

The only Disney contact tracing that is really realistic and doable is among CMs. For guests, it’s next to impossible.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

This is what I've thought/said all along when people said, "But nothing's been linked!" Well no, of course not. With a such an incredibly variable incubation period (as short as 24 hours to as long as 14 days), is almost impossible for anyone to say with 100% certainty that they got Covid at Disney, unless they have been there for and only there for over 2 weeks. Because otherwise, they had exposures before they left for Disney, on their way to Disney, on their way home from Disney, once back home living their life etc...

And I know people point to that one guy who had Covid and went to a conference and WDW back in March making headlines, but the sad truth is that is no longer headline worthy all these months later. People go everywhere with Covid and the general public is no longer outraged by it.

 

[hereforthechurros]

We need some news.

In the meantime should I renew my TP subscription? What are the odds that Genie is ready next summer/fall?

I saw on insta that they’re laying some railroad track in MK. Maybe replacing what they tore up for Tron? Does that news do anything for anyone here?

And I know people point to that one guy who had Covid and went to a conference and WDW back in March making headlines, but the sad truth is that is no longer headline worthy all these months later. People go everywhere with Covid and the general public is no longer outraged by it.

So true. I’ve been twice and even if I knew for a fact that I caught it at WDW, people would think I was the moron for going to wdw vs. holding them accountable.

 

[Farro]

Uh oh...what's wrong with Everest???

Reportedly down for 2 days now...but MDE shows 120 minute wait? Weird.

 

[jesskeys91]

To be honest, I don't understand why FP+ had to go away for Covid?

Because, as has been explained many times on this board, FP+ makes standby waits longer because the line has to be stopped so often to let in those with FP+. Which is a problem because there is barely the space to put socially distanced standby lines as is, and that is without having them lengthened because of FP+.

 

[xuxa777]

And I know people point to that one guy who had Covid and went to a conference and WDW back in March making headlines, but the sad truth is that is no longer headline worthy all these months later. People go everywhere with Covid and the general public is no longer outraged by it.

I doubt that, The guy would be a story now, he died and actively had symptoms while at the park. If someone somehow did that now it would totally be in the news.

 

[osufeth24]

Oh my..

World of Disney in DS has a 50 minute wait.

 

[Leigh L]

You mean you wouldn’t love to wait in line for Haunted Mansion starting way back in Frontierland, but this time barely moving because FP+ are moving in at a much faster rate? Maybe they could play with the ratio of FP to standby? Have it available on less attractions? I’m sure making them even harder to get would make for an enjoyable experience for all but a small minority.

The only thing worse than a line stretching into another land posted at 90 minutes, is that same line stretching into another land that is actually 90 minutes (or longer).

Exactly!
Plus I'm sure they are taking indoor queues into consideration and prolonged (potential) exposure even if people are socially distanced. Makes sense to just keep lines consistently moving.

We did the HM line that stretched not quite, but almost into Frontierland, lol. The shorter wait time was pretty accurate (30 minutes I think it was?) even though it felt like we'd be there for hours when we first saw it, lol.

 

[mshanson3121]

Because, as has been explained many times on this board, FP+ makes standby waits longer because the line has to be stopped so often to let in those with FP+. Which is a problem because there is barely the space to put socially distanced standby lines as is, and that is without having them lengthened because of FP+.

So sorry to take time out of your obviously busy schedule. Not all of us spend time on here daily, nor have time to go back and read every post amongst the hundreds of thousands. So, things get missed.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I doubt that, The guy would be a story now, he died and actively had symptoms while at the park. If someone somehow did that now it would totally be in the news.

You don’t think people like that are a dime a dozen right now? Goes somewhere symptomatic then dies? It was still a big deal and shocking in March. I have no doubt people have been at Disney symptomatic, maybe some dying eventually, at some point since July.

Speaking from the perspective of news making headlines only (and not what I think about it), deaths and potential exposures are not a big deal anymore. It’s just reality. I think back in July if there had been a major spike that could be reasonably tied to parks opening timing there would have been PR problems, but as it stands save for a CM outbreak it would be hard to tie much back to them now. I think they’re at bigger risk of bad press from perceived or real crowding related safety issues, TBH.

 

[SaintsManiac]

So sorry to take time out of your obviously busy schedule. Not all of us spend time on here daily, nor have time to go back and read every post amongst the hundreds of thousands. So, things get missed.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I saw on insta that they’re laying some railroad track in MK. Maybe replacing what they tore up for Tron? Does that news do anything for anyone here?

From what I saw it was by the Fantasyland Station so likely not Tron related .... Would be nice to see some work on the train near Tron though - curious how it works (tunnel?)