The WDW Comeback: Before/After Game

[rpb718]

At first glance I was thinking any form of FP+ can't return until social distancing leaves. The wildcard here is what will WDW do? I do see them increasing park capacity to at least 50% by summer because they will have more resorts open by then. The lines will be longer than last summer, and in the heat and sun it's not going to matter much if the lines move twice as fast. Depending on how the resorts sell is key, and implemented an extra half hour in the mornings may not be enough of a selling point.

I also think that like hopping whatever FP+ returns at the beginning will be lessened. Maybe you can only make FP+ for rides starting at 2PM. Maybe you can't make FP+ before and have to do it that day and only for the park you have a reservation for. Maybe you don't get 3 FP+, only 1 or 2. Maybe they do a hard FP+ limit and you can't get more after you use them up. I hesitate to say that they would limit FP+ to resort-only guests, but that could be something too.

I'll go on a limb and say there will be some FP+ like ability implemented at WDW before 10/1, but it may not be exactly the same.

 

[Chris Ehlers]

Topic 6: The Return of FP+
Will FastPass+ return Before or After: 10/1/21?

Note: This can include a deviation to the current plan but will allow guests to line jump a traditional standby queue. Virtual queues do not count.

Joining this thread...... I think before, 10/1 in some capacity.....maybe with the "GENIE" on your phone - sans Magic Bands

 

[dlavender]

I'm going before. Like other's have said it will be different. Some kind of paid component. I see it going live by 7/1.

 

[Chris Ehlers]

I'm going before. Like other's have said it will be different. Some kind of paid component. I see it going live by 7/1.

Lets hope so.......we are there for 9 days starting 7/3 @ BLT Lakeview 2 bed villa

 

[tlmadden73]

Topic 6: The Return of FP+
Will FastPass+ return Before or After: 10/1/21?

Note: This can include a deviation to the current plan but will allow guests to line jump a traditional standby queue. Virtual queues do not count.

This is a tough one -- I would have to say AFTER though. I think that FP+ any sooner would just make the crazy, snaking standby queues even longer (and more standstill) .. so I don't see them re-introducing FP+ until things are back to "normal" (no social distancing, increased capacity).

Plus .. I feel they will redo it in some form. It was reaching its limits in its old form (in my opinion). Do something to reduce its demand reduce its usage. So make it a paid service. I would be shocked if they didn't . .and then throwing some sort of bone to the resort guests to draw guests to the stay at the hotels similar to how the 60-day reservations probably drew a lot of guests (I know it did me).

 

[dlavender]

Lets hope so.......we are there for 9 days starting 7/3 @ BLT Lakeview 2 bed villa

If you feel like checking out early and gifting me a few days in that two br villa hit me up. Lol

 

[AvidDisReader]

I believe Fast Pass in some form will happen before 10/01

 

[Chris Ehlers]

If you feel like checking out early and gifting me a few days in that two br villa hit me up. Lol

HAHA Nope this is My 50th, DD, HS Grad, DS, 16th and their Moms 51st which we missed last year from BS

 

[Grasshopper2016]

I think you picked a very good date for the fastpass question. I wouldn't be surprised if they returned on exactly October 1!

But I guess I will take the "after" here. I think that, as long as the federal (or state) government requires or even requests that we maintain social distancing, it will be very hard to reinstate fastpasses---given how much longer and slower they will make the standby lines. A few weeks ago, I was optimistic that the social distancing recommendation would likely end by September. But the slow progress in administering vaccines has soured my prediction.

 

[npatellye]

Topic 6: The Return of FP+
Will FastPass+ return Before or After: 10/1/21?

Note: This can include a deviation to the current plan but will allow guests to line jump a traditional standby queue. Virtual queues do not count.

After. My thoughts on why are along the same lines as those of Grasshopper2016.

 

[ford91exploder]

I swore we already had this conversation on a different thread.

So if that holds true, that means all the signatures currently open at Disney Springs will become 1 dining credit if you think dining plan is coming back. I don't see any of the restaurants at Disney Springs following your business model. Those are owned by Chefs with a name/service standard to protect.

Hotels signatures are not going away. The Deluxe hotels will always have a signature experience of some sort. (yes, yes, Artist Point, but it's still considered a unique experience)

Where did i say meals back to one credit???, I said the experience would be ‘re-imagined’ and it will have much less of a personal touch. But I doubt it will be anything like it was pre pandemic and i’d very much like being totally wrong on this for obvious reasons.

people keep thinking I want stuff like this to happen. In reality I’m talking about what I’m afraid will hapoen

I think you picked a very good date for the fastpass question. I wouldn't be surprised if they returned on exactly October 1!

But I guess I will take the "after" here. I think that, as long as the federal (or state) government requires or even requests that we maintain social distancing, it will be very hard to reinstate fastpasses---given how much longer and slower they will make the standby lines. A few weeks ago, I was optimistic that the social distancing recommendation would likely end by September. But the slow progress in administering vaccines has soured my prediction.

If you made ALL attractions FastPass Only.

Fastpasses actually make it easier for Disney to set up attraction lines because they know how many riders there will be at any given time. Now say at 50% capacity Disney makes ALL rides FP that would allow the queues to be set up to maintain adequate social distancing. It would also give a more 'normal' feel to the park experience.

It would allow them to discontinue the reservation system. This of course assumes no 'day of' fastpasses until within the park. So getting a FP would be the precondition of park admission.

The FP system could be used to balance the load across the park once again enhancing social distancing by distributing the guests across all the park's attractions in a logical manner.

 

[mattpeto]

Topic 6: The Return of FP+
Will FastPass+ return Before or After: 10/1/21?

Note: This can include a deviation to the current plan but will allow guests to line jump a traditional standby queue. Virtual queues do not count.

Final Count:
Before: 8
After: 5

Before	After
rteetz	skeeter31
Farro	SaintsManiac
ford91exploder	tlmadden73
Lumpy1106	Grasshopper2016
rpb718	npatellye
Chris Ehlers
dlavender
AvidDisReader

Topic 7 coming later this morning. Just a reminder, the next topic isn't a true "Comeback" point, but it's something that Disney had plans for at some point.

 

[mattpeto]

Topic 7: When will Rise of the Resistance include a traditional Standby queue (see notes)?
Will it be included Before or After: 7/1/2022

Note: Essentially, when will guests be able to show up anytime at DHS and get in line for ROTR without the current Boarding Group. This change can be any combination of Standby only, or Standby and Virtual Queue, or Standby and FastPass+, etc.

The FP+ queue already exists:


This is the current queue used for Boarding Groups and would be the traditional StandBy queue:



Thanks to Martin for the video. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it.

 

[Chris Ehlers]

Topic 7: When will Rise of the Resistance include a traditional Standby queue (see notes)?
Will it be included Before or After: 7/1/2022

Note: Essentially, when will guests be able to show up anytime at DHS and get in line for ROTR without the current Boarding Group. This change can be any combination of Standby only, or Standby and Virtual Queue, or Standby and FastPass+, etc.

The FP+ queue already exists:
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This is the current queue used for Boarding Groups and would be the traditional StandBy queue:

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Thanks to Martin for the video. It's worth a watch if you haven't seen it.

Im going to say after, I think the Virtual Queue, is the way its going to be for a lot of feature rides in the future. I think with the "Genie" youre going to select the feature rides you want to do in the park of choice and its going to spit out your Ride Time......just my 2 cents Cheers to the Weekend!!!!!

 

[tlmadden73]

Topic 7: When will Rise of the Resistance include a traditional Standby queue (see notes)?
Will it be included Before or After: 7/1/2022

Note: Essentially, when will guests be able to show up anytime at DHS and get in line for ROTR without the current Boarding Group. This change can be any combination of Standby only, or Standby and Virtual Queue, or Standby and FastPass+, etc.

The FP+ queue already exists:

I would say (and hope) before -- 7/1/2022 is a long way away and if they don't ditch the BG system by then .. than I doubt they EVER will. Once some newer rides come online, you'd think the demand for RotR would go down.

But probably is not going to Standby until FP+ in some form returns.

I just hope virtual queuing (at least in this form where you have seconds to get in the virtual line or be shut out for the day) .. isn't expanding.

 

[AvidDisReader]

After, I say after as I do not believe there ever will be the traditional stand by line on this attraction (not a ride but an attraction in my opinion).

 

[Lumpy1106]

Regular standby/FP lines @ ROFR - I'm going to say AFTER. The lines for TSM and Soarin' did not go down to a reasonable length until an additional ride/theater was added. I don't even think that is possible @ DHS? Then there is FoP - OK, you got me there. Something does have to be done though. BG's are gone in seconds and changing to the 7a distribution did nothing to stop that, neither did the reduced park capacity.

 

[Lumpy1106]

Quick question - do you think that the ROTR BG process is actually increasing the demand for the ride? By that I mean, if there was a standby/FP line, do you think people would lose interest as that line crept over say 2 hours in length and you would walk away, whereas sitting on your hotel @ 7a in you jammies - why not give it a shot to get a BG? I think that is what is happening @ FOP, but then there are time of the day (RD and near close) where the line was going down to a reasonable length even on the most crowded days. Not sure that would be the case @ ROTR (yet - but who knows?).

 

[SaintsManiac]

After or never

 

[npatellye]

After.