Netflix..anyone cancelling?

[Kennywood]

We have Roku and the basic Hulu package. We still can't find time to watch everything.

As for new movies, we wait until they're released on DVD and then borrow them from the library, free of charge. (In fact, I'm picking up the latest Ant Man movie and the latest Shazam movie on Saturday.)

Netflix has never interested me.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Other than having an idea you're watching it in two different locations, they really have no idea. Assume you have the summer cottage ...a wife may stay there the summer and use Netflix and the husband may stay at the main home. Netflix has no idea if these are two people that don't "reside" together or do.

From what I've read that's not the case. It picks up what you watch including down to what your individual profile is normally viewing (including the genres), what networks you normally sign on on (IP address, etc), etc.

So no I don't believe the intent is honor system because they are already aware. It becomes pretty evident if your account is connected to two different networks in a pattern.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

there really should be an exception for students not even earning and income living away from home.

Why should there be an exception for students and only students? The world isn't filled with just students who are living away from home with little to no income. I'd also argue it's a paltry amount per month. I was a student when I got Netflix back in what 2006 or 2007 it wasn't like I was making bank either. I would think it was silly (respectfully speaking) that I should get a break over my friend who just happened to not be in college but was in the same similar financial strain as I.

I'll put it this way Netflix is the monthly cost of what one crunchy chicken cheddar wrap with chips was at my college and if I couldn't afford that I had bigger problems.

 

[dez1978]

The only reason I still have it because it's free with my AT&T cell plan. The only time I watch it is for The Crown and Stranger Things.

I didn't know that was ever an option with AT&T. I have HBO MAX with my plan so I haven't let them talk me into changing plans yet.

 

[GAN]

From what I've read that's not the case. It picks up what you watch including down to what your individual profile is normally viewing (including the genres), what networks you normally sign on on (IP address, etc), etc.

So no I don't believe the intent is honor system because they are already aware. It becomes pretty evident if your account is connected to two different networks in a pattern.

Sure... it's intelligent enough to gather that info, but pursuing it to the point where they want to cut you off is another thing. The only retaliation they have is to cut you off(that I can see -they aren't spending thousands to take you to court for $20/mo) and does that hurt the user or the business? Their only form of resolution literally takes money out of their own pocket!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Sure... it's intelligent enough to gather that info, but pursuing it to the point where they want to cut you off is another thing. The only retaliation they have is to cut you off(that I can see -they aren't spending thousands to take you to court for $20/mo) and does that hurt the user or the business? Their only form of resolution literally takes money out of their own pocket!

I'm just speaking to your comment, from their intent it's to prompt you to verify the household if it notices activity. It is tracking you and has been tracking you for years which you denoted you didn't think it did.

From a Forbes article in Feb 2023: "Netflix will have ways of knowing if you are still sharing your account with someone outside of your household. That’s because the streaming service collects a lot of data about you, including what you watch, where you watch it, the location of your home, and device IDs. This information can be used to ascertain whether it’s you watching or someone in another household.

In countries where the password sharing crackdown is active, Netflix is tracking who shares their accounts via the devices used to connect to the platform. It will enforce the end of password sharing by asking devices to “check in” periodically in your home location around once a month. If you have kids at college, they could check their devices in when they are home, if they can get back every 31 days.

Netflix describes in its shareholder letter how you will still be able to use your devices outside of your home once the crackdown begins. “As we roll out paid sharing, members in many countries will also have the option to pay extra if they want to share Netflix with people they don’t live with,” the letter reads. “As is the case today, all members will be able to watch while traveling, whether on a TV or mobile device."

When Netflix detects that someone outside of the household is sharing the password, it will block the device and give them the option to add their own account."

You can expect a similar enough process in the U.S. Whether they give an adjustment period where they are not enforcing it but rather giving reminders instead IDK. But this is a slow world-wide thing they seem to be taken on. The U.S. isn't the first country they are doing this with either. Latin America was first last year and in Feb of this year they rolled it out to Canada, New Zealand, Portugal and Spain. It will be rolled out (according to Netflix) in the UK as well.

 

[princesscinderella]

I never got an email about the crack down and the extra $8 I have the largest plan. I did get show suggestions though

 

[SandyinMonterey]

Not canceling. If we cancel anything, it will be cable.

 

[serenitynow]

Why should there be an exception for students and only students? The world isn't filled with just students who are living away from home with little to no income. I'd also argue it's a paltry amount per month. I was a student when I got Netflix back in what 2006 or 2007 it wasn't like I was making bank either. I would think it was silly (respectfully speaking) that I should get a break over my friend who just happened to not be in college but was in the same similar financial strain as I.

I'll put it this way Netflix is the monthly cost of what one crunchy chicken cheddar wrap with chips was at my college and if I couldn't afford that I had bigger problems.

Because most college students are still listed as dependents on their parents tax returns. The parent is still providing the majority of the dependent’s support. And the parent is the primary Netflix account holder.

 

[wenrob]

We like Netflix and are keeping it.

I honestly can't believe Netflix let these 'shared' accounts go on so long.

I don't know of too many services you can buy and then share with friends and relatives all over the country.

Actually a good portion of streaming services go by a Family account- meaning X amount of family members not household members, and/or streams/screens. I have who knows how many services, including fitness and music and to the best of my knowledge only Netflix is limiting members/profiles to a household.

Netflix does not offer an HD option that isn’t top tier so I opted for 4 screens and during the pandemic when my oldest was furloughed I “gave” one of my screens to her. I’m with the people who say I pay for four screens I should get four screens. It makes zero difference where they’re being used. Right now I have it for “free” so if DD gets locked out I’ll pay the $8 until that promotion is done and cancel. DD can decide what she wants to do from there but I can binge the handful of shows I watch on it in a month easy so that’s how I’ll do it from now on.

 

[aprilgail]

I need more info on this.
We use it at home, at our summer house and when we travel. So, just one family using it in different locations. I will keep it if we can keep using it that way. If not, we would think about canceling.

I actually called them yesterday regarding this- I watch it at home and I watch it during the day on my computer at work- their response was that I could add another user for 7 something extra a month- I said but I am NOT an extra user- I am the same person that uses it in 2 different locations and they told me I had to pick one of the locations for the account! AKKKKKKKKK

 

[Wells Larsen]

I actually called them yesterday regarding this- I watch it at home and I watch it during the day on my computer at work- their response was that I could add another user for 7 something extra a month- I said but I am NOT an extra user- I am the same person that uses it in 2 different locations and they told me I had to pick one of the locations for the account! AKKKKKKKKK

Oh, yea.. I will absolutely cancel if that is their official stance.

 

[aprilgail]

Other than having an idea you're watching it in two different locations, they really have no idea. Assume you have the summer cottage ...a wife may stay there the summer and use Netflix and the husband may stay at the main home. Netflix has no idea if these are two people that don't "reside" together or do. I think it boils down to an honor system. My two daughters actually rent an apartment together, so last night I added them for the extra $8 since they no longer "reside" with me. My father(92) has my old AppleTV and watches Netflix occasionally through that at his place(that I actually own) -I'm not offering to cover that even if I should.

Yes they do- you need to pick which IP address you want as your netflix account now- so they know which house has the netflix and who doesn't

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Because most college students are still listed as dependents on their parents tax returns. The parent is still providing the majority of the dependent’s support. And the parent is the primary Netflix account holder.

What does that have to do with a voluntary streaming service? No one is saying a parent can't pay for their kid's Netflix account on their behalf (which assumedly the parent is paying for many other things if this is a student without income themselves). IF it is truly THAT big of an issue. Really..what is stopping a parent, who says their kid is so dirt poor they cannot afford it themselves, to not just fork over the money themselves. At that point it's just the parent using their student to fight some principle value...

This isn't a necessity and there are plenty of more serious things where you have to split off despite being a dependent on taxes

 

[leahgoogle]

I actually called them yesterday regarding this- I watch it at home and I watch it during the day on my computer at work- their response was that I could add another user for 7 something extra a month- I said but I am NOT an extra user- I am the same person that uses it in 2 different locations and they told me I had to pick one of the locations for the account! AKKKKKKKKK

We mostly watch it at home, but my DH does watch it at work sometimes. Rarely, we log-in if we are away for the weekend or vacation. I have not received an e-mail about changes yet!

 

[DisneyHardin]

I actually called them yesterday regarding this- I watch it at home and I watch it during the day on my computer at work- their response was that I could add another user for 7 something extra a month- I said but I am NOT an extra user- I am the same person that uses it in 2 different locations and they told me I had to pick one of the locations for the account! AKKKKKKKKK

That contradicts the email that they sent yesterday that says "You can easily watch Netflix on the go and when you travel — either on your personal devices or a TV at a hotel or vacation home."

 

[GAN]

Yes they do- you need to pick which IP address you want as your netflix account now- so they know which house has the netflix and who doesn't

Anyone can use multiple devices per Netflix, your IP address changes as your location changes. So if you were in your main home on your iPad then went to your beach cottage on your phone(or any other of your devices) they don't know if it's you or someone else. So my point is -yes, they can see your IP and what your account's profile history looks like ...but in reality, they don't KNOW for sure. They can't actually PROVE anything(beyond a reasonable doubt), which means they actually have no recourse in most cases. Other than terminating your account -which financially, hurts them in the end. I'm not arguing they can't "see" you, just that it would be extremely difficult to "prove" and rare to have them take any serious action that doesn't hurt them as well. This is why I said it's as much an honor system as anything else....

 

[disneyseniors]

Instead of cancelling you can just tell those using your login that they need to get their own. That is what I'd do. They are switching from a growth model to concentrate on profitability so it makes sense.

That's what we did. For years we were on my son's account, and we don't live with him. Then Netflix changed their policy to only those in the household. I wasn't offended. It's business, and I just paid for Netflix and was grateful that we got to piggyback for a while. We love Netflix and watch it over others.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Other than terminating your account -which financially, hurts them in the end. I'm not arguing they can't "see" you, just that it would be extremely difficult to "prove" and rare to have them take any serious action that doesn't hurt them as well. This is why I said it's as much an honor system as anything else....

But they aren't terminating your account, they are blocking others.

It's not on the honor system, the honor system would be like you telling them no one else in your household has access to your password and Netflix just saying "okay we trust you".

 

[GAN]

But they aren't terminating your account, they are blocking others.

It's not on the honor system, the honor system would be like you telling them no one else in your household has access to your password and Netflix just saying "okay we trust you".

Who are others? Is it me or my daughter watching at the different address? Is it me or my father watching when he's at the beach on cellular? They don't KNOW. The email I got specifically states that I can use my account my account when travelling and on my various devices ...that's the way I read it. Seemed clear to me. If we're talking two people using the same account, at the same time ...that would be a totally different story. That I can see them blocking.

You can easily watch Netflix on the go and when you travel — either on your personal devices or a TV at a hotel or vacation home.