starry_solo
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2010
At least you got out of it. We still haven't. And it doesn't look like we will anytime soon.
We got out for less than 4 weeks. But, yes, at least it was something!
At least you got out of it. We still haven't. And it doesn't look like we will anytime soon.
Us eitherAt least you got out of it. We still haven't. And it doesn't look like we will anytime soon.
No offense to Californians, but this is the first time in my life that I wish we lived in California. I wish we had a Governor who put human life over money & politics. A governor working with local governments rather than taking power away from them would also be really nice. We're back to being concerned about going anywhere or doing anything.And we officially went back into the most restrictive tier in CA again
I don’t follow all the schools across the country, but I can only assume similar (maybe not to this extent) proportions at every college town.
Overall I agree with you and looking at other states, I can see where you’re coming from. I will say that not all of the decisions in his tiered system, especially things prohibited under purple, are backed by science (and I’m not talking about Disneyland).No offense to Californians, but this is the first time in my life that I wish we lived in California. I wish we had a Governor who put human life over money & politics. A governor working with local governments rather than taking power away from them would also be really nice. We're back to being concerned about going anywhere or doing anything.
The same thing happened at the University of Wisconsin 6-7 weeks ago. The school administration made some very difficult decisions and instituted strict rules that vastly reduced the spread of the virus. They shut down 2 of the worst dorms for 14 days with the students essentially locked inside. The other dorms allowed students in those dorms to go about freely, but with restrictions. Strict rules were put in place for when and where people could meet in person, classes went from a hybrid system to all online for 3 weeks and every student in a dorm was tested once a week. When someone tested positive, contact tracing was put in place, isolation dorms were used for positive kids, local hotels were used for quarantine their roommates. The UW-Madison went from 200-300 positives per day in early September to 27 reported 2 days ago.Not the under-18 crowd, but one of my alma maters, Univ Michigan recently accounted for 60% of the positive tests in the county. The student population accounts for only 15% of the county total headcount. I wonder what proportion of the other 40% could be traced to the 60% that are of students (or vice versa).
I don’t follow all the schools across the country, but I can only assume similar (maybe not to this extent) proportions at every college town.
Colleges can get a handle on it and many have. The bigger issue to me is the blame game. We are quick to blame someone who tests positive. I don't understand the thinking that someone got sick because they were doing something wrong. I have never blamed someone for getting the stomach bug or the flu why are we so harsh with Covid? I think that if schools continue to have harsh punishments kids will not come forward. Kids need to have positive feedback when they are doing things correctly and reminders when they need to follow the rules. If colleges do not open the economic impacts for many areas are devastating. My husband works in higher ed and I have 2 daughters attending their respective colleges in person. One lives on campus and one off campus. We need to find a way as a society to live with this because if we don't the issues are going to be tremendous.
Florida also announced that by Saturday the state will no longer use PCR tests at state sites. The standard will now be the 15 minute antigen test.
Yesterday, 4,942 new cases, 44 deaths. A real disaster.Illinois, rising, big time. Back in the spring shut down, we were running about 3,000 new cases a day. With very tough guidelines, we drove that down to about 400 a day. We were like the envy of the country. But now just under or over 4,000 a day.
College students have to step up and follow the rules for the safety of the entire student population. If they can't follow the rules then they should face the consequences. At my DD's college the rules are carefully set out for them and they sign that they agree to them. They are given multiple warnings before they are brought up for disciplinary action. One parent on the parent's FB group complained how unfair it was that her daughter received a warning because she and her roommate had a "movie night" in their dorm room with "only" 2 other students. The rule at the time was that no one other than the roommates could be in the room!Colleges can get a handle on it and many have. The bigger issue to me is the blame game. We are quick to blame someone who tests positive. I don't understand the thinking that someone got sick because they were doing something wrong. I have never blamed someone for getting the stomach bug or the flu why are we so harsh with Covid? I think that if schools continue to have harsh punishments kids will not come forward. Kids need to have positive feedback when they are doing things correctly and reminders when they need to follow the rules. If colleges do not open the economic impacts for many areas are devastating. My husband works in higher ed and I have 2 daughters attending their respective colleges in person. One lives on campus and one off campus. We need to find a way as a society to live with this because if we don't the issues are going to be tremendous.
One parent on the parent's FB group complained how unfair it was that her daughter received a warning because she and her roommate had a "movie night" in their dorm room with "only" 2 other students.
There is no shame or blame for positive students. Just clear rules and clear enforcement. They are testing 1600+ students and staff per day and the positivity rate is less than 2%.
I'm good living in the midwest, it's never fair to paint a broad brush, especially with this virus. Plenty of people outside of NYC got tired of being lumped into just NYC, I would expect the same elsewhere.I wouldn't want to live in the midwest right now.
Yesterday, 4,942 new cases, 44 deaths. A real disaster.
Many of the schools and school districts that had open very recently are now closing up again to do remote. Several counties are eliminating indoor restaurants and bars again.
Even with those numbers, Illinois is 19th in cases per million population. North Dakota is the worst, South Dakota is second worst.
But, it was only a few weeks ago we were in the mid 3's.our rate stayed at 5.7 as the day before. That's a little something...