Disney Genie announcement

[sponica]

I'm interested to see how this will all pan out, honestly I've always accepted waiting in line as part of the deal when you go to a theme park.

 

[MrWreckless]

Please let this be something they save for the 50th. The last thing I want in my September trip is for tons of people to be able to lightning pass in front of me during an already long FoP or SDD line.

 

[ChanaC]

So it looks like it's kind of like Disneyland's old MaxPass system, but without some of the bigger attractions, but without it there is no free fastpass? If I'm reading that correctly, which I might not be.

MaxPass was great at Disneyland if you are one or two people going for one or two days. I can see this really adding up with a large party staying for a week.

 

[bashuck]

Ya there is Lighting Lane, which appears to be included free for one attraction at a time most likely same day, then paid the paid two options.

Where do you read the 1st lightning lane is free?

 

[Seoulbro]

The $15 per person will only let you book tier 2 attractions. Tier 1 attractions will be priced separately based on surge pricing.

Smuggler's Run is not tier 2.

 

[scrappinginontario]

I think they've found the 'sweet spot' for pricing. Most people will be willing to pay $15/person/day for LL to avoid only using stand-by queues. It appears it's basically FP+ at $15/day. Personally, we'll pay it.

 

[Realgrumpy]

And no benefit for staying in a Disney hotel.

I thought I read Disney resort guests could reserve at 7:00 a.m. and all other guests had to wait until they are in the park.

 

[ktlm]

We loved MaxPass at DLR-- hated FP+ at WDW and are okay with this EXCEPT for the fact that they have excluded some rides and are making them pay per ride. If we are already paying $60 per day at DLR and $45 per day at WDW for 3 people, I would expect all the FP rides to be included.

 

[Lehuaann]

$420 for a family of 4 for 1 week adds up. Also for tier 2 rides

 

[JakeAZ]

I think they've found the 'sweet spot' for pricing. Most people will be willing to pay $15/person/day for LL to avoid only using stand-by queues. It appears it's basically FP+ at $15/day. Personally, we'll pay it.

If everyone has it, nobody has it

 

[ChanaC]

"These individual attraction selections will include rides like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at Magic Kingdom. Plus, both Rise of the Resistance at Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure at EPCOT (which opens on October 1st) will feature a free virtual queue and be available as a Lightning Lane attraction."
https://allears.net/2021/08/18/breaking-fastpass-will-be-discontinued-in-disney-world/
This wording is interesting. It sounds like you may not need a boarding group/virtual queue for RorR, and just a Lighting Lane

 

[JakeAZ]

And no benefit for staying in a Disney hotel.

If this holds true, it's a huge mistake. Just stay off-site and use the savings to pay for this

 

[EpcotPhoenician]

I don't mind paying $15 per day. I'm assuming there will be some benefit for Guests staying at Deluxe resorts, too.

What I do mind, however, is if the app is broken upon release. Disney really needs to get it right this time around.. no excuses.. If the application is littered with bugs, there's going to be a lot of unhappy Guests in the parks.

 

[asumom]

I'm certain the devil will be in the details. $15 a day sounds like it lets you choose a single ride (probably among a tiered selection) at a time. Individual Attractions is where the "whales" come in. I'm going in a month. Not certain if I want this to start before or after I go.

After, for me. It's already super expensive.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

"These individual attraction selections will include rides like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train at Magic Kingdom. Plus, both Rise of the Resistance at Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Remy’s Ratatouille Adventure at EPCOT (which opens on October 1st) will feature a free virtual queue and be available as a Lightning Lane attraction."
https://allears.net/2021/08/18/breaking-fastpass-will-be-discontinued-in-disney-world/
This wording is interesting. It sounds like you may not need a boarding group/virtual queue for RorR, and just a Lighting Lane

It was specifically mentioned in the parks blog that the virtual queue will stay.

 

[ChanaC]

What's interesting is this appears to be similar to Universal's Express Pass system, but far cheaper. Universal's Express Pass is almost like buying a second park ticket. The advantage of that though it generally the Express lines are fairly short since not many people want to pay for it or their deluxe hotels that offer the service. I can see these new Lightening/Genie lines getting really long

 

[princessfionasmom]

Interesting.... MaxPass was a pretty great system, so I'm excited that they're building off of that platform. What I'm interested in is the Tier 1/e-ticket individual purchases.

For our family, we ride minimal e-ticket attractions so I'm probably ok with the cost.

Really excited about the DAS digital upgrade. It was a hassle to walk all the way to an attraction, get a return time for 45 min to an hour, then have to circle back

I missed this part, where did you see that? That would be amazing.

 

[pineapplepalms]

Disneyland had an AP add-on rate for MaxPass… haven’t seen anything about an AP rate for this but I really hope they have one.

 

[ChanaC]

It was specifically mentioned in the parks blog that the virtual queue will stay.
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Interesting. But with the other wording, I wonder if you can now basically get a FastPass/Lightening Pass as well as a spot in the queue. For example, if you don't get a boarding group first thing in the morning it seems like you can pay for a Lightening pass and also get on.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Interesting. But with the other wording, I wonder if you can now basically get a FastPass/Lightening Pass as well as a spot in the queue. For example, if you don't get a boarding group first thing in the morning it seems like you can pay for a Lightening pass and also get on.

I’d be shocked if that was the case. ROTR just doesn’t have the throughput for that. I’d assume it stays fully VQ as it is now. But I guess you never know.