Flattening the curve isn't a rapid process. It takes time.All of these measures were put in place to slow the progression to the point where the hospitals could keep up. If all of these things still are not working, would it be better to just let it spread so that we develop herd immunity sooner rather than later?
Well mine too, but that never stopped me from speculating before.I have no idea. It's way above my pay grade.
We do not know if it is working because it takes 2 weeks before you are clear from transmission. We should see cases increase for at least 14 days, then maybe, if we are isolating enough they will come down. What is being shown right now started 2 weeks ago.All of these measures were put in place to slow the progression to the point where the hospitals could keep up. If all of these things still are not working, would it be better to just let it spread so that we develop herd immunity sooner rather than later?
We do not know if it is working because it takes 2 weeks before you are clear from transmission. We should see cases increase for at least 14 days, then maybe, if we are isolating enough they will come down. What is being shown right now started 2 weeks ago.
No.So we should have shut everything down 2 weeks ago? What is the level where it is overwhelming the system? I have read reports that 7% of coronavirus cases require hospitalization. With the current 33,000 positive cases that would mean 2,310 hospitalizations. Is that enough to overwhelm the hospitals?
no no no. this logic pains me.All of these measures were put in place to slow the progression to the point where the hospitals could keep up. If all of these things still are not working, would it be better to just let it spread so that we develop herd immunity sooner rather than later?
No.
Breathe in. Breathe out.
no no no. this logic pains me.
Why would we want more people to be exposed and possibly die? Our parents, grandparents... people that are immunocompromised... asthma, cancer patients... heck even smokers & vapers.
If we overwhelm our health systems it will get to the point that the most healthy person (without any prior conditions) would get the ventilators. That means that my best friend (auto immune disease), cousins (smokers), grandparents (cancer) would not get ventilators and would probably die.
Stay the heck home people.
So we should have shut everything down 2 weeks ago? What is the level where it is overwhelming the system? I have read reports that 7% of coronavirus cases require hospitalization. With the current 33,000 positive cases that would mean 2,310 hospitalizations. Is that enough to overwhelm the hospitals?
Yes, it would have been helpful to shut them down earlier. New York is getting close to being overwhelmed and I expect the hospital to be overwhelmed before the next two weeks are over. Their cases are doubling every two days. Here is a chart that might help.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/21/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-by-country.html
Maybe if everyone actually isolated... But you know spring breakers, cherry blossoms, some states still have school open... Instead this is a CF
No! Whatever we do now will help. If we do nothing, hundreds of thousands die. If we do something, maybe only tens of thousands. I figure my family of 5's effort alone may be saving 1,000 lives.I guess I mean if even with all these measures we are still overwhelming the hospitals, then we have lost that battle right? At that point go after herd immunity to stop the spread. All while locking up the elderly.
But we can still limit the spread. We need to make sure there are less new people infected. We need to limit the amount of people that have the virus at one time. Lets say we limit the amount of people to where it is right now, then the hospitals will be able to play catch up with the patients they have now, and then be able to manage it.I guess I mean if even with all these measures we are still overwhelming the hospitals, then we have lost that battle right? At that point go after herd immunity to stop the spread. All while locking up the elderly.
It's also extremely ageist to say "lock up the elderly".