Just added on 300 pts at OKW direct with Disney at $135 per point thru 2057. Added magical beginnings and that reduced the price to $115 per point.

[AstroBlasters]

Yes, i agree i haven't stayed in a 1Bd yet either, & i hate that it is double!! (2bd coming later this year tho, so we'll see how that goes. lol)



I was wondering if they got split up at all, did that get answered somewhere?



Nice!! I wonder how often that kind of upgrade happens?



So i'm gonna need more points is what you're saying??

I actually already switched my plan to be near a 1bd every other year, for just that reason, could do 2 studios, or just a 1bd.

I think SAP will work well if you have a large number of points and “buy where you want to stay” will always work. So, you should be good!

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

I think SAP will work well if you have a large number of points and “buy where you want to stay” will always work. So, you should be good!

I would caveat that direct SAP will work well if you have a large number of points (nothing is certain in life but harder to imagine Disney excluding direct from any resorts)— also, OKWe, even extended, still ends in 2057– so you get 30 good years (and likely access to the newest hottest resorts) but it also sunsets the timeshare obligation before you lose access to most of the current in demand resorts— If I loved RIV or VDH, I would buy into this OKW promotion instead of buying either of them resale (unless I was determined to stay in the cheapest standard view rooms). The dues may be slightly higher but the options are so much better— with 3 distinct resort areas to choose from!

 

[NVDISFamily]

If I loved RIV or VDH, I would buy into this OKW promotion instead of buying either of them resale

unless I was determined to stay in the cheapest standard view rooms

VDH is a weird duck. You actually need to own there to have any chance at getting into the $$$$ rooms for the most part. There is just so few 1 or 2BRs compared to the studios. Perhaps it will get better as more rooms are allocated to the owner. Getting into studios is not too hard at 7 months as of now.

As I've been thinking of the current round of promotions what I settled on is if I was going to get some points now, it would likely be 250 more at VDH or 250 to 300 more at Riviera. What I really "need" is a direct sale at CCV.....

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

VDH is a weird duck. You actually need to own there to have any chance at getting into the $$$$ rooms for the most part. There is just so few 1 or 2BRs compared to the studios. Perhaps it will get better as more rooms are allocated to the owner. Getting into studios is not too hard at 7 months as of now.

As I've been thinking of the current round of promotions what I settled on is if I was going to get some points now, it would likely be 250 more at VDH or 250 to 300 more at Riviera. What I really "need" is a direct sale at CCV.....

I’m predominantly a studio dweller so I wasn’t thinking about the VDH large room special situation. I wonder if they kept a disproportionate amount of larger VDH rooms to rent as hotel rooms or if they just built a much smaller ratio of them to begin with.

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

I’m starting to wonder if they are a real person or a Disney agent because they got me to buy!!!

The one to blame is @Chrionne for starting this thread! I was ready to start buying resale contracts and had been haunting these boards trying to learn about the current state of affairs when I stumbled / train wrecked into this thread whose title says it all. Only after reading about it here did I contact a guide to find out if it was true … that’s how I figured out these boards are better information than anything issued by Disney. Downhill from there.

 

[Mexacajun]

The one to blame is @Chrionne for starting this thread! I was ready to start buying resale contracts and had been haunting these boards trying to learn about the current state of affairs when I stumbled / train wrecked into this thread whose title says it all. Only after reading about it here did I contact a guide to find out if it was true … that’s how I figured out these boards are better information than anything issued by Disney. Downhill from there.

Were you not a dvc direct member before?

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

Were you not a dvc direct member before?

No. I became a first time owner of any points with the initial direct 1100 points, then I added 300 more direct during the closing process, and now I bought the last 1000 direct as a current owner. In retrospect there may have been a better strategy, but hindsight is 20/20.

In any case, I was initially planning to become a first time owner via multiple resale contracts because I figured that was the best way to accumulate a lot of points at the lowest price per point - these boards were tremendously helpful for that research. But all that went out the window with this direct OKW promotion.

 

[Mexacajun]

No. I became a first time owner of any points with the initial direct 1100 points, then I added 300 more direct during the closing process, and now I bought the last 1000 direct as a current owner. In retrospect there may have been a better strategy, but hindsight is 20/20.

In any case, I was initially planning to become a first time owner via multiple resale contracts because I figured that was the best way to accumulate a lot of points at the lowest price per point - these boards were tremendously helpful for that research. But all that went out the window with this direct OKW promotion.

Don forget to take advantage of your welcome home trip. You can get them to book you a room even at a sold out location. And it doesn’t have to be okw. When I bought my first Riveria contract I used welcome home to stay on the boardwalk.

 

[Sprinkles&Sprints]

Don forget to take advantage of your welcome home trip. You can get them to book you a room even at a sold out location. And it doesn’t have to be okw. When I bought my first Riveria contract I used welcome home to stay on the boardwalk.

Does anyone know if there's a limit to how far in advance they will book a WH stay? So if I purchased this week, could my WH stay be next summer (2025)?

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

Don forget to take advantage of your welcome home trip. You can get them to book you a room even at a sold out location. And it doesn’t have to be okw. When I bought my first Riveria contract I used welcome home to stay on the boardwalk.

That’s key advice - the guide did not emphasize the welcome home first booking so I didn’t hear it - had to learn about that from these forums. Yet another example of the value in collective wisdom on these boards.

Couple months ago I was almost sure I was going to buy a dozen Poly resale contracts and roll the dice on ROFR, so today I can’t keep myself from scanning new resale listings just to see what’s out there. Old habits die hard.

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

Does anyone know if there's a limit to how far in advance they will book a WH stay? So if I purchased this week, could my WH stay be next summer (2025)?

Member services reminded me the limit is subject to your own limits on 11 month home resort vs 7 months for others.

 

[NVDISFamily]

I’m predominantly a studio dweller so I wasn’t thinking about the VDH large room special situation. I wonder if they kept a disproportionate amount of larger VDH rooms to rent as hotel rooms or if they just built a much smaller ratio of them to begin with.

I'm a big fan of VDH and I'm sure DVC knows what they are doing with how they built the tower. I'm sure a lot of people visiting DLR are groups of 4 or less and only need to stay a few days. With that said, if they matched RVA in room ratios they would have to build a lot more 1 and 2BR rooms....

Hope my math makes sense:

Studio to 1 and 2BR Ratio
	RVA	VDH
Duo	24	36
Studio	186	267
1BR	177	19
2BR (Dedicated Only)	90	20
Ratio 1BR	84%	6%
Ratio 2BR	43%	7%
VDH 1BR @ Riviera Rate		255
VDH 2BR @ Riviera Rate		130

I think the one crime here is that VDH studios don't have an extra bed to sleep 5 but then there are so few 1BRs for those who do need to sleep that extra person.

 

[PolyRob]

Does anyone know if there's a limit to how far in advance they will book a WH stay? So if I purchased this week, could my WH stay be next summer (2025)?

"Welcome Home" trips are typically booked for first time new direct members when they want to travel within the first 6 months of ownership. MS will help use some of it's inventory because room selection is usually very low at that time. If you even book one single night on your own through the website you forgo your Welcome Home trip. Additionally, certain resorts are usually excluded like VGC and VGF (at least before BPK was added).

 

[AstroBlasters]

I'm a big fan of VDH and I'm sure DVC knows what they are doing with how they built the tower. I'm sure a lot of people visiting DLR are groups of 4 or less and only need to stay a few days. With that said, if they matched RVA in room ratios they would have to build a lot more 1 and 2BR rooms....

Hope my math makes sense:

Studio to 1 and 2BR Ratio
	RVA	VDH
Duo	24	36
Studio	186	267
1BR	177	19
2BR (Dedicated Only)	90	20
Ratio 1BR	84%	6%
Ratio 2BR	43%	7%
VDH 1BR @ Riviera Rate		255
VDH 2BR @ Riviera Rate		130

I think the one crime here is that VDH studios don't have an extra bed to sleep 5 but then there are so few 1BRs for those who do need to sleep that extra person.

It is baffling to me that they didn’t give the studios the ability to sleep 5 or make more 1BDs available…. but…. population decline is a real thing and most countries are in the middle of a baby bust after a temporary COVID bump in birth rates…. so maybe they took smaller family sizes into account….

 

[Sprinkles&Sprints]

"Welcome Home" trips are typically booked for first time new direct members when they want to travel within the first 6 months of ownership. MS will help use some of it's inventory because room selection is usually very low at that time. If you even book one single night on your own through the website you forgo your Welcome Home trip. Additionally, certain resorts are usually excluded like VGC and VGF (at least before BPK was added).

Thank you! I finally bought direct today and was curious what my options would be - but since my 2024 trips are all set, my guide pretty much said 'you're on your own!'...

 

[PolyRob]

Thank you! I finally bought direct today and was curious what my options would be - but since my 2024 trips are all set, my guide pretty much said 'you're on your own!'...

If you have a Disney trip already planned and current UY points (didn't sell back for Magical Beginnings) you could in theory TRY for MS to find something similar. Say you have a Poly cash room in Sept... MS may be able to find you a studio on the monorail for the same dates and you can always cancel your cash stay and pocket the refund. Completely up to you if you want to keep or use the points!

Congratulations on the purchase and welcome home!

 

[Sprinkles&Sprints]

If you have a Disney trip already planned and current UY points (didn't sell back for Magical Beginnings) you could in theory TRY for MS to find something similar. Say you have a Poly cash room in Sept... MS may be able to find you a studio on the monorail for the same dates and you can always cancel your cash stay and pocket the refund. Completely up to you if you want to keep or use the points!

Congratulations on the purchase and welcome home!

Thank you!!

I did end up doing MB, and will most likely rent my 2024 points (June UY) - our upcoming trip is next month but we're going with another family, so it may have been too complicated. But completely agree w/ this approach!

 

[Chrionne]

Were you not a dvc direct member before?

Were you not a dvc direct member before?

Chrionne here. I’ve watched a lot of OKW point sales here since my initial thread.
Should I have asked DVC for sales profit share? LOL !

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

The one to blame is @Chrionne for starting this thread! I was ready to start buying resale contracts and had been haunting these boards trying to learn about the current state of affairs when I stumbled / train wrecked into this thread whose title says it all…

Chrionne here. I’ve watched a lot of OKW point sales here since my initial thread.
Should I have asked DVC for sales profit share? LOL !

Yep. That’s about right.

 

[Mexacajun]

If you have a Disney trip already planned and current UY points (didn't sell back for Magical Beginnings) you could in theory TRY for MS to find something similar. Say you have a Poly cash room in Sept... MS may be able to find you a studio on the monorail for the same dates and you can always cancel your cash stay and pocket the refund. Completely up to you if you want to keep or use the points!

Congratulations on the purchase and welcome home!

This is how it happened for me. I had a cash Boardwalk trip planned. I bought a Riveria direct contract and then I called member services and they got a welcome home trip at Boardwalk for those same dates and I canceled my cash reservation.