I’m not sure I get the thinking. So using VGF as a hypothetical: DVD sold out the resort at direct pricing, all points in circulation have MF being paid on them but DVC doesn’t want OKW points for instance being used there? Why would they care at a sold out resort, or any resort for that matter? Perhaps I’m missing your meaning - Disney trying to make direct look more compelling than resale over time going forward by continuing to restrict resale?
The point that was made it wasn't DVC not wanting the points used there but VGF or PVB owners (for example) who paid more in resale and direct that OKW owners. They said people were getting upset that lower cost points were immediately jumping to other resorts making direct owners at the more "desirable" resorts book always within their home resort window.
How do you think they would define a “failed” resort?
I would suspect the way they define a failed resort is one in which its resale value is significantly lower than the other resorts, when adjusted for the time remaining on contract. Another larger caveat would be a resort where most owners are not staying at with their points a majority of time.
When I brought this issue up to DVCMC and Sales Manager (on why they would purposefully hinder the system), I got the same response Disney is implementing this change due to the influx of cheaper points being bought at resale. They went on to explain that a majority Direct buyers were not happy that it has caused a stress on the system that "failed" resorts were putting. They said people were expressing that they felt their was a value difference in points being used across the system and the system should prevent that. While I disagree with the changes I think that rationalization is sound and can see why people would be upset. People buying Vero or HHI because it is the cheapest but never intending to use it there but only at WDW. I was explained that when you purchased your home resort Disney's intention was all along a majority of your stays would occur at your home resort and the other DVC resorts would be to move around for capacity purposes; it wasn't to set up points that would be exclusively purchased with the intention of moving. Also I believe Disney set some resorts up like Saratoga, I think they got greedy with the
point charts there. They were too much and should be much more inline with OKW which is exactly why they added the standard and preferred bookings. Also they spent money directly hooking the preferred sections to Disney Springs, all of which I was directly told.
Again I'm only reiterating what I was told. I only agree in the sense I think there is a rational motive behind their movements. Though I personally think it won't fix the issue. The issue is them building some resorts that should have been more planned. I bought into a system knowing that if I wanted to switch from my home resort at 7 months that basically would be it. And I knew if I wanted my home resort I better book between 11-7 months.
No other resort is a failure. They've all sold out in pretty much the timeframe they wanted or faster.
I would bet there are what they view as resorts that are "failed" now. I'm sure HHI and Vero are examples also. While I'm sure there are plenty of buyers that own there who stay there they have major issues with people wanting to buy there simply because it is cheap. They can control the Direct purchasers to an extent from buying there buy on resale they can't easily. Thus the constraints they implemented. I think resorts desirability can go through cycles.
Overall I want the resale market to thrive because then I know I can sell if I ever need to. And if part of that is people buying "cheap" points than good because it makes all points have a bottom price to them. Overall I think each resort serves a purpose to the overall system and am happy each one exits. But I'm a person that has always enjoyed spending a day looking at the Disney Resorts.
P.S. items in quotes are meant to be in quotes because I wasn't using that language but it was the language used when I spoke to DVC. Also this whole restriction is nothing more than to create two classes of points. Points that are from resorts people only intend to use them at. And points that people don't actually want to own at.