ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

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Ours passed on Thursday at 30 days... fingers crossed for you...

With AKL going through in the $120s sometimes, if not a rush to get the points or a necessary use year, I'd roll the dice...
Out of curiosity, are the certain use years that are more necessary than others? What would the criteria be that they are looking at? Certain events or is it just related to certain times of the year?
Thanks! If I miss this one I want to be able to strategize for the next.
 
Ours passed on Thursday at 30 days... fingers crossed for you...

With AKL going through in the $120s sometimes, if not a rush to get the points or a necessary use year, I'd roll the dice...
Right! Since I've been watching the last couple months of AKL, I've seen $140 get taken and $122 pass.
 
Ours passed on Thursday at 30 days... fingers crossed for you...

With AKL going through in the $120s sometimes, if not a rush to get the points or a necessary use year, I'd roll the dice...
fingers crossed 😬our $135pp AKL got taken in March, that was our first go, this being our second. Not desperate, but I am desperate to book for next October ASAP 🤣
 
Right! Since I've been watching the last couple months of AKL, I've seen $140 get taken and $122 pass.
Out of curiosity, are the certain use years that are more necessary than others? What would the criteria be that they are looking at? Certain events or is it just related to certain times of the year?
Thanks! If I miss this one I want to be able to strategize for the next.
That's my curiosity... is there a pattern to use years that are likely to get taken or not?
Like the greatest quantity of AKL use years are I believe Dec... so do more December's get taken? If yes, is it just due to the volume of those contracts (same percentage being taken?) or are a higher percentage being tsken, as considered more desirable?
I am trying to find patterns in the threads' taken contracts... as well as the ones that have survived!
 


That's my curiosity... is there a pattern to use years that are likely to get taken or not?
Like the greatest quantity of AKL use years are I believe Dec... so do more December's get taken? If yes, is it just due to the volume of those contracts (same percentage being taken?) or are a higher percentage being tsken, as considered more desirable?
I am trying to find patterns in the threads' taken contracts... as well as the ones that have survived!

No one knows and if any of us can ever figure out a pattern that works, we would be paid thousands by Disney to keep it secret! Lol
 
No one knows and if any of us can ever figure out a pattern that works, we would be paid thousands by Disney to keep it secret! Lol
If that secret got out, it would be the equivalent of nuclear launch codes being compromised to Disney lol. It would be DEFCON 1, black helicopters, and Mickey would be escorted to his bunker. End of Days type stuff.
 


That's my curiosity... is there a pattern to use years that are likely to get taken or not?
Like the greatest quantity of AKL use years are I believe Dec... so do more December's get taken? If yes, is it just due to the volume of those contracts (same percentage being taken?) or are a higher percentage being tsken, as considered more desirable?
I am trying to find patterns in the threads' taken contracts... as well as the ones that have survived!
Despite the rumors of a room full of drunk monkies - I think they use the same staff that designed Stich's great escape.
 
How long does it take Disney to send proceeds on a contract they bought back?
I asked about this on the FB page for DVC Fan and got 1-2 weeks. My closing date on my contracts is 8/15; so I'm hoping that the closing will happen by the following week so I can have the funds by early Sept.
 
How long does it take Disney to send proceeds on a contract they bought back?

I got bought back April1st. Closing docs sent May 20th..one day before actual closing date in the contract..

Closed on May 26th and I received my check around June 7th. So from close to check about 2 weeks. Contract didn’t leave my account for another week to 10 days

But DVD took their sweet time to get me closing documents. I have heard things are faster these days.
 
I am on day 40 of my BLT - first timer and it’s killing me. I had figured at this point that it didn’t get actually submitted when I was told it was but I guess it’s just a BLT back log?
This is my first time trying a resale contract, so I'm still figuring things out, too. I would have assumed that they would process the ROFRs in FIFO (First In, First Out) order, or something close to that. But based on other pass/fail reports here, that is not how it works. Maybe they group things based on resorts? I guess they don't want us to be able to predict / know ahead of time. Hang in there, and we'll find out soon enough.
 
That's my curiosity... is there a pattern to use years that are likely to get taken or not?
Like the greatest quantity of AKL use years are I believe Dec... so do more December's get taken? If yes, is it just due to the volume of those contracts (same percentage being taken?) or are a higher percentage being tsken, as considered more desirable?
I am trying to find patterns in the threads' taken contracts... as well as the ones that have survived!
If there is a system, I don't think it will have to do with Disney needing specific Use Years. Once they have them back, they just absorb those points and can issue them out as any Use Year and in any size contract.
I think all that really matters is maintaining the bottom line value of their product, which means keeping the value of resale up. Other timeshares can have almost no resale value. Disney keeps their product retaining value. Almost the best way to do that is exercising ROFR semi-randomly. It keeps the market for contacts active.
 
If there is a system, I don't think it will have to do with Disney needing specific Use Years. Once they have them back, they just absorb those points and can issue them out as any Use Year and in any size contract.
I think all that really matters is maintaining the bottom line value of their product, which means keeping the value of resale up. Other timeshares can have almost no resale value. Disney keeps their product retaining value. Almost the best way to do that is exercising ROFR semi-randomly. It keeps the market for contacts active.

Just to clarify this. While yes, they can change the UY of points, they can’t create new points in a UY to sell to somebody if those contracts they bought with a different UY didn’t have what they now need.

For example, if I want to buy a Dec UY today, they need to sell me 2021 UY points and on since I am in my 2021 UY.

If what they bought back were all stripped of 2021 UY points, and started with the 2022 UY points they can’t sell me anything.

But, let’s say I have a June UY and want to buy but all the have are Feb and March UYs. They can change those points because they came with 2022 UY points and June is in its 2022 UY.
 
But it still gives DVD millions of points to sell on top of VGF and RIV.

Prior to the pandemic, deals one sold out resorts wasn’t a thing. The fire sale strategy last years was a new one, but all before VGF came into play

They just raised the price on SSR too. Could have left it at $186 to give people an option. They didn’t.

Like I said I just don’t see them needing a fire sale for the WDW resort this year when plenty of points to sell.

And lets not forget they will end up having direct on sale:

VGF2
RIV
POLY2
AUL
DLT
 
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Just to clarify this. While yes, they can change the UY of points, they can’t create new points in a UY to sell to somebody if those contracts they bought with a different UY didn’t have what they now need.

For example, if I want to buy a Dec UY today, they need to sell me 2021 UY points and on since I am in my 2021 UY.

If what they bought back were all stripped of 2021 UY points, and started with the 2022 UY points they can’t sell me anything.

But, let’s say I have a June UY and want to buy but all the have are Feb and March UYs. They can change those points because they came with 2022 UY points and June is in its 2022 UY.
And to add more, while use years can be changed, all points need to be from the same unit. If you want to buy 400 points, but the most they have from any one unit is 300, you’ll need to wait until they can obtain 100 more points (hello ROFR) from that unit to combine into the 400 point contract you want to buy.
 
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And to add more, while use years can be changed, all points need to be from the same unit. If you want to buy 400 points, but the most they have from any one unit is 300, you’ll need to wait until they can obtain 100 more points (hello ROFR) from that unit to combine into the 400 point contract you want to buy.
And this is why I think you see some outliers where they will buy a contract back at a higher rate than others- they need to fulfill a request for someone.
Again, just my opinion but it makes a lot of sense.
 
Just to clarify this. While yes, they can change the UY of points, they can’t create new points in a UY to sell to somebody if those contracts they bought with a different UY didn’t have what they now need.

For example, if I want to buy a Dec UY today, they need to sell me 2021 UY points and on since I am in my 2021 UY.

If what they bought back were all stripped of 2021 UY points, and started with the 2022 UY points they can’t sell me anything.

But, let’s say I have a June UY and want to buy but all the have are Feb and March UYs. They can change those points because they came with 2022 UY points and June is in its 2022 UY.
As a quick follow up do we know they follow this practice or just from letter of law they are supposed to? I’ve grown cynical over the years with the various point chart moves and sometimes question whether they actually follow these rules or not. Is there some level of audit/transparency we have to confirm they follow this rule similar to how some members were able to assess point charts to show they didn’t?
 
As a quick follow up do we know they follow this practice or just from letter of law they are supposed to? I’ve grown cynical over the years with the various point chart moves and sometimes question whether they actually follow these rules or not. Is there some level of audit/transparency we have to confirm they follow this rule similar to how some members were able to assess point charts to show they didn’t?

They can’t create points out of nowhere to sell and do go through audits so yes, I believe they do. Deeds must be recorded to match as well.

Remember, they don’t have to change the UY of the points, but they have the ability to do so if they decide they want.

UYs we’re something they created when they set up the total points for a resort, and allocated them in some random way..random to us but they must have had a reason.

That is why people have tried to buy a sold out resort and been told they can’t get their UY because no points exist, but then when the UY starts, they get the call. It is because they don’t have current points for that UY and may or may not have any other UYs that do as well.

The exception of course is when a new resort…or new phase like VGF opens…then they decide when points start like VGF getting 2022 to start since it opened in 2022.
 
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