Here we go!I’m out now too! I’m hoping to stay strong!
I have, I live at 7000 feet on the other side of guardsman pass, but based off some of the breathing I heard and people being pulled off the course by medical, I really wouldn’t recommend it if you live at sea level, but everyone handles the altitude differently, so ymmv. It is a stunning run though. Freaking cold at the top before sunrise, and then you are not subjected to direct sunlight until you exit the canyon at mile 7(for the half).Ohhhhh! I am curious @Professor_Cookie have you run Big Cottonwood before? DH is thinking about signing up for it this year to PR his marathon time and snag a BQ! We are doing the Mt. Charleston Half in April and I was hoping there might be some other REVELers out here. This will be my first Revel race.
What about a 10-miler? I’ve been trying to find one within a reasonable distance because that’s the sweet spot for me for speed. I can usually maintain my 10k pace through 10 miles but struggle past that point (one of my major training goals this year will be to work on improving that)I’ve got a general question, but probably best suited for @DopeyBadger in the end.
When looking at a PoT race for MW Dopey, is the PoT threshold “easier” to meet with a half marathon or marathon?
I ask because my MW PoT expires after this weekend. I’ve got a local half/full combo that is pretty fast coming up in mid-March. My half and full PRs are both from that course. I’d like to register and at least take a shot at establishing a PoT, if possible.
I know this is going to be a long shot. I’ve been in ultra training mode for a long time and have neglected my tempo/speed work, but seeing what I can do there is probably worth a try, as races dry up in my neck if the woods from June through August and the heat makes May/September races difficult to run flat out.
10 milers are incredibly rare in my neck of the woods. The next one I’m aware of is after the PoT deadline in October and I don’t really want to travel just to get to a PoT race.What about a 10-miler? I’ve been trying to find one within a reasonable distance because that’s the sweet spot for me for speed. I can usually maintain my 10k pace through 10 miles but struggle past that point (one of my major training goals this year will be to work on improving that)
I’ve got a general question, but probably best suited for @DopeyBadger in the end.
When looking at a PoT race for MW Dopey, is the PoT threshold “easier” to meet with a half marathon or marathon?
I ask because my MW PoT expires after this weekend. I’ve got a local half/full combo that is pretty fast coming up in mid-March. My half and full PRs are both from that course. I’d like to register and at least take a shot at establishing a PoT, if possible.
I know this is going to be a long shot. I’ve been in ultra training mode for a long time and have neglected my tempo/speed work, but seeing what I can do there is probably worth a try, as races dry up in my neck if the woods from June through August and the heat makes May/September races difficult to run flat out.
I have no idea if you are in the mid-west or anywhere near MI/OH but we have a few 10 milers around here. I am thinking about doing this 10 miler in Delta, OH in 2 weeks if it's not a snowy blizzard out:10 milers are incredibly rare in my neck of the woods. The next one I’m aware of is after the PoT deadline in October and I don’t really want to travel just to get to a PoT race.
Thanks @Professor_Cookie this makes sense...and that's why I am a little concerned about the full marathon. We live in MI (lower peninsula) and I do think the altitude can potentially impact performance. I am hoping Mt. Charleston Half won't be as tough but we will see.I heard and people being pulled off the course by medical, I really wouldn’t recommend it if you live at sea level, but everyone handles the altitude differently, so ymmv.
FWIW, when I used to work seasonally, I was in better shape than I am now and when I would get to the Rockies in fall from summer on the east coast it didn’t seem to affect me as badlyThanks @Professor_Cookie this makes sense...and that's why I am a little concerned about the full marathon. We live in MI (lower peninsula) and I do think the altitude can potentially impact performance. I am hoping Mt. Charleston Half won't be as tough but we will see.
Thanks! The PoT cutoff is usually very early October, though. The one I was thinking of in my area is the American Tobacco Trail 10 miler on October 26th or so, which is a shame because it would be a great PoT course.@camaker we have a 10 miler in Atlanta near the end of October. Not sure if it is before POT cutoff but can help you with everything. It is kind of hilly though.
I did Mt. Charleston some years back, in hopes of finally breaking the sub two goal I had, but I just couldn't swing it. The downhill was fine, but a lot. I think what did it for me was when it got flat at mile 10 my legs were like *** is happening now and just gave up. And yeah the pain I felt in my legs after that race was like NO OTHER. They were sore in places I didn't even know they could be for like DAYS. But it's a gorgeous course that I was familiar with and I remember the weather being awesome. I'm glad I did it but IDK if I would do it again.Oh yes, will do for sure! I am curious @Marebear_runs what wrecked you at Big Bear? Was it a PR for you? You said it was crazy fast so now I am wondering! I'd love to hear more about your experience. I am sitting on a 2:05 half right now and I am hoping Mt. Charleston Half will get me under my sub two goal time. I do a lot of elevation training with the hope that it helps.
Oh yes, that’s so accurate. After all the extreme downhill, when you hit flat ground at the end, it feels like running up a steep hill. Through molasses. With concrete shoes.I did Mt. Charleston some years back, in hopes of finally breaking the sub two goal I had, but I just couldn't swing it. The downhill was fine, but a lot. I think what did it for me was when it got flat at mile 10 my legs were like *** is happening now and just gave up. And yeah the pain I felt in my legs after that race was like NO OTHER. They were sore in places I didn't even know they could be for like DAYS. But it's a gorgeous course that I was familiar with and I remember the weather being awesome. I'm glad I did it but IDK if I would do it again.
Thank you so much @jennamfeo this is good to know. I read that the Mt. Charleston half was split in two--the first 6 miles are downhill and the last 7 miles are flat. It sounds like that is not accurate then? I will definitely have to check out the course previews if I can--thanks so much @Marebear_runs !I did Mt. Charleston some years back, in hopes of finally breaking the sub two goal I had, but I just couldn't swing it. The downhill was fine, but a lot. I think what did it for me was when it got flat at mile 10 my legs were like *** is happening now and just gave up. And yeah the pain I felt in my legs after that race was like NO OTHER. They were sore in places I didn't even know they could be for like DAYS. But it's a gorgeous course that I was familiar with and I remember the weather being awesome. I'm glad I did it but IDK if I would do it again.
I doubt in Vegas, but here you can pick them up in grocery stores in my town so you could probably have them sent to your hotel and throw one in a running back pack, as insuranceThank you so much @jennamfeo this is good to know. I read that the Mt. Charleston half was split in two--the first 6 miles are downhill and the last 7 miles are flat. It sounds like that is not accurate then? I will definitely have to check out the course previews if I can--thanks so much @Marebear_runs !
Aside from the soreness after, I am actually a little more worried about the altitude adjustment. I am coming from Michigan and we are flying into Vegas Thursday night and staying in a hotel in Vegas. The race is Saturday morning and since it's the half, I am just praying that I won't be too severely impacted by the altitude and change in elevation.