What statute are you writing of?Why destroy the statue of a slave who ran away and helped free other slaves? Now people are demonstrating about hakim littleman being killed after he shot at cops while they arr3sted his friend
What statute are you writing of?Why destroy the statue of a slave who ran away and helped free other slaves? Now people are demonstrating about hakim littleman being killed after he shot at cops while they arr3sted his friend
You mean Frederick Douglas? I guess we really don't learn much history from statues...Why destroy the statue of a slave who ran away and helped free other slaves?
Why destroy the statue of a slave who ran away and helped free other slaves? Now people are demonstrating about hakim littleman being killed after he shot at cops while they arr3sted his friend
It depends on how serious the situation is. Supporting the idea that they thought whites had a right to own people, is bad enough and really is only an example of a very dark period in our history, but the majority were either in favor or didn't care because, as usual, degree of wealth entered into the opinions. Declaring independence from the country that all those flag bearers get upset about now cannot seem to wrap their brains around just how serious that was and would be now. When the US Military where brought in to defend and attempt to maintain our union and the separatists decided that it was OK to kill Solders of the United States you add yet another level to that degree of seriousness.The argument that really strains my connection to the Buddha comes up, usually as some form of, "Times were different then and people thought they were doing the right thing." Something of that nature was actually in this thread's OP (I could go look ... it's right up there ... nah). As if 160-240 years ago slavery was just something everyone thought was fine. Which is bunk. Abolition was a popular political movement from the beginning of US history. Popular now in the flawed but wonderful musical about a flawed but ... well really just very flawed abolitionist A. Ham. It took Hamilton a while to come up to speed on abolition but he did, and so did a lot of people. England embraced abolition and where it could not abolish it outright, the crown purchased living slaves to free them.
The idea that this was just something that happened is a myth. It was always a divisive issue, useful for determining which side of the room had a soul.
I agree, that was a reaction from the opposite side of the situation, but people have no problem with making statements that are not even close to being accurate or in context with current thoughts.I assume you’re talking about the Fredrick Douglass statue in Rochester, NY? There’s been no motive found in that one yet, but that last time it was torn down it was by two white college students. It got national news airtime this time because of other statues but I don’t think anyone around here thinks it’s related in any way to the tearing down of Confederate or slave owner statues.
There are also a LOT of Frederick Douglass statues here. Literally - a series of them were commissioned a few years back and placed around the city. Not a single other Douglass statue has been touched.
That kind of tangent debating happens a lot when a person is presented with facts that go against their beliefs. So instead of admitting maybe they got it wrong, they just throw out another thought. I have somebody like this in my family and it drives me nuts. There is no way to have a rational conversation or debate because it always ends up so far away from the topic at hand.You mean Frederick Douglas? I guess we really don't learn much history from statues...
It's being investigated last I read so we don't know who/why they did it. I'm not sure what that has to do with the vast majority of cases where statues related to the Civil War are being torn down though. You seem to do a lot of "what about" posts that attempt to steer the discussion into some one off or fringe case that has nothing to do with the bigger picture.
Watched a poster do that over the weekend and it was quite weird and exhausting.That kind of tangent debating happens a lot when a person is presented with facts that go against their beliefs. So instead of admitting maybe they got it wrong, they just throw out another thought. I have somebody like this in my family and it drives me nuts. There is no way to have a rational conversation or debate because it always ends up so far away from the topic at hand.
It's such a sad sick world that people defend glorifying confederate statues and the oppression of minorities.