What not to do at Disney?

[wdwpirates]

Please don't stand over me eating your melty ice cream cone in 90+ degree weather while I am sitting on the curb waiting for the afternoon parade to begin. And don't act like it's my fault when I call you on it. And please don't forget to apologize. If I wanted to be smeared in ice cream I would facilitate the smearing myself.

 

[livndisney]

Wow, never saw ANY and we visited just about EVERY bathroom in each park

Each park has them right next to First Aid.

MK Between the bathroom (FA) and Crystal Palace.
AK on the left just past Pizzafari (near First Aid)
DS In the lobby of Guest Services (near FA)
EP Between Test Track and Mexico (just past the bathroom and FA)

 

[LOVEMYGIRLS4]

Ok, so since we're rehashing the BF issue again, I'll add my 2 cents again. Although I agree BF is a natural thing, along with all the other other natural things we do, it also comes with the obligation of following some social rules. There are some cultures that allow women to go uncovered and think nothing of it(I'm not talking about topless beaches). However, in this society women are expected to not expose themselves in public. We choose to live in this society because it's benefits outway it's disadvantages. I'm onboard with the fact that a mother has to feed her child, and shouldn't have to go to a dirty bathroom. However, it should be done with discretion. She knows she is going to have to feed a child, and so therefore she is the one that should be prepared. Wear clothing that will allow the child to be fed with the least amount of exposure. As most people have already said, most mothers are modest and do there best to not expose themselves unnessesarily. That is all I ask for. BF were you need to, but do it with class and follow the social rules of the society you live in. There are those mothers who choose to BF in a way that is almost a dare to the rest of society to say something. There are instances of women who are quite comfortable exposing themselves way longer than they need to before or after they have fed the baby, and then want to use the fact that they are BF as their "I can do whatever I want" card. These are the women I have a problem with. I think for most people it has never been about a mother BF, is is about the exibitionists. Now for those that say, BF is natural and nobody should tell a BF mother she needs to be discreet because it is only a baby eating.... I respectfully disagree. When that child get's older, and is eating in a restaurant, it will still be a natural thing of a child eating, and yet you will expect that that child has been taught our society's rules and maners for eating in public. You will expect that child to sit in their chair, and eat with utensils (not shovel it in with their hands), and not chew with their mouth open, or not talk with their mouth full. So why when a child is older and eating do we expect them to follow society's rules about what is considered polite and respectful of others, and yet you would say that just because a mother is breastfeeding and it is a baby eating, that any consideration for being polite to the rest of society does not apply?

Although I do agree that moms should cover up, but take into effect that would you want to cover your babys head in 90+ degree weather and humidity, plus you don't eat in a bathroom so neither should BFing babies. Plus it is a far stretch to say that is is an "obligation" Just my 2 cents as a newbie

 

[Ashton7]

The ONLY time I wonder at healthy looking people in wheelchairs is when I see a family rotate through the same wheelchair throughout the day. You see one child in the wheelchair at one attraction, the next child in the wheelchair at the next attraction, and then the adults start taking their turn. Then later in the day you see the family - as healthy as can be walking out of the park! You REALLY have to wonder about that.

No, I wouldn't wonder about that ... because I would find it extremely unlikely that I would see the same family doing this throughout an entire long day at Disney nor would I be following them out of the park to see if they were capable enough of walking to suit my personal definition of "disabled." Nor would I be bothering to even notice whether or not the child in the wheelchair had changed. I mean, who in the world walks around the park following a family and keeping track of something like that?!?! And even if it happens, I doubt it happens often enough to be so noticeable. I have better things to do with my time, even when I'm NOT at Disney.

As others have said, I think lots of people would have a much better time at Disney AND in life if they just minded their own business. Does it hurt you if someone else is using a wheelchair? EVEN if they don't really need it? Is it really any of your business? Are you the person in charge of determining who is disabled "enough" to need one? No, I didn't think so ...

 

[DisneyMomm]

I made sure to say that I did not expect a mother to go to a bathroom to feed her baby, I also don't believe a baby should have a blanket over their head to eat in the sweltering Florida heat. What I have a problem with is exibitionist mothers. I most certainly do think there is an obligation to everybody to follow certain social rules when doing any of the things we do...especially the things that are considered natural. There are many very natural things that human beings do that all have social rules regarding how we go about it. There are rules on what forms of showing affection and love are suitable for public display, and what must be kept behind closed doors. There are rules about disposing of all kinds of bodily fluids. There are rules about how we are expected to eat in public. And there are rules about what body parts are allowed to be exposed in public. It is even considered rude and innappropriate for men to go topless in a lot of places in our society. I feel that a BF mother is still in a society where we do not except a woman walking around bare chested. Other cultures have different social rules, but we live here... and choose to stay living here. Untill it is socially exceptable for a woman to freely walk around bare chested, then I stand by my feeling that a BF mother has an obligation to respect society's rules to the best of her ability. Go ahead, BF your child, but do it in a way that has the least amount of exposure. If a mother needs to BF in a restaurant, or on a bus, then go ahead, but do it with class. As far as I'm concerned, if the baby is latched on and eating... no problem, if the baby has pulled away and your rumaging around for something in the diaper bag with your breast hanging out ... problem. Wear clothing that can be unbuttoned partially to allow access by the baby ( don't be the lady that took her entire T shirt off in a restaurant), wear a breastfeeding bra that can be closed up fairly quickly. I don't feel that a BF mother should hide away. I simply feel that there must absolutely also be consideration for others. I know many people say "then don't look". If someone is being fairly discreet, even if that are out in the open, it's pretty easy to avoid looking once you realize what their doing. The ones who almost flaunt the fact that they are allowed to have their b**bs hanging out are the ones that are hard to miss. I am related to one of those types of BF mothers. She almost made a point of doing it infront of people, just because she wanted to make a point. I remember once at a soccer game, one of the other Dads (who she didn't know well at all) was standing over her looking at the baby for a few minutes. The baby was laying across her stomach and chest when the dad was looking at him, and with no warning at all she pulled out her breast right in front of him to feed the baby, and the baby wasn't even really fussing for food yet. To me, that was totally inapropriate. I think that's why I get so frustrated by the whole BF topic. I think she tramatized me lol. I became so nervouse to go anywhere with her because I knew she was going to do things like that just to prove her point to everybody she could. Anyway, I don't think I'm being unfair in any way, BF wherever you need to, but do it with class.

 

[glassslippergirl]

Don't stop fast in the middle of the walkway. The person behind you pushing the senior citizen in the wheelchair will not be able to stop as quickly. If you do stop fast, do not yell at the person who taps you with the wheelchair. It was not intentional on the part of the wheelchair pusher.

And bravo to those who expect some discretion while breastfeeding.

 

[FourM's]

There was this one man that kept staring at my son with disgust in The Plaza. He even repositioned himself in his chair so that his back was to my son. I went to use the restrooms and when I came back and walked past the man he said "in my country we drown children like that." I looked him dead in the eye and said "F U" (but used the whole words, not loudly and no children heard. It was just him and another man at his table.) and sat down. I held back anger and tears because had my husband heard that he would have gotten up and killed the man. I keep trying to forget it but once in a while I picture that ugly little man's face and my blood boils again.

How did you not slap him in the face! You should have answered-Well, lucky for you in my country we don't drown people for being ugly! What a rude man!

 

[Eeyore5]

The ONLY time I wonder at healthy looking people in wheelchairs is when I see a family rotate through the same wheelchair throughout the day. You see one child in the wheelchair at one attraction, the next child in the wheelchair at the next attraction, and then the adults start taking their turn. Then later in the day you see the family - as healthy as can be walking out of the park! You REALLY have to wonder about that.

I am a person with a physical disability. I hope my experiences/knowledge can be helpful in clearing this up.

I can actually see where the whole family taking turns with a wheelchair would happen legitimately. One person may need the wheelchair due to physical issues or stamina issues. But, that person can still walk and doesn't want to sit all day. It is hard on your back to sit all day. It also isn't good for you. It increases the risk of blood clots for one. And, you can lose what strength you have if you don't use it The family may be thinking that since they have the wheelchair, it wouldn't hurt for others to have a break from walking when then person who needs it wants to walk. I have no problem with this.

Another scenario is this: My mom and I both need an ECV at least part of the day to make it at Disney due to or disabilities - we have different issues. We have been talking about renting 1 ECV and swtiching off. Threads like that make it harder for me to do this even though it would be the better option. It hurts me when people assume that becuase I am obese, I am lazy. I worked very hard to get to where I am. I didn't walk until 3. My Drs say I should walk as well as I do. I have medical reasons for my weight issues and am doing the best I can. It hurts when people make nasty comments to me when I am using an ECV. They don't know me and can't be bothered to get to know me, yet they think they can judge me. Thankfully negatively is the exception to the rule at Disney.

Ultimately I don't get why it matters to anyone else or what business it is of theirs why a person walks some and uses a wheelchair/ECV some or why people switch off. There is no advantage to using a wheelchair/ECV at Disney other then avoiding walking. Most rides have integrated lines. If they don't, the official policy is you wait the same amount of time at the ride entrance, then board. The accommodations at Disney are meant to provide equal access, not better.

Also, some people have asked why this is such a hot button issue. The reason is that it is hurtful to regularly have strangers think they know what you need and is best for you. And, strangers judging you when they know nothing about you. My best advice for most situations is, you don't have all the info. Don't judge others and hopefully others will return the favor to you when you do something they don't understand or think is wrong.

 

[mitchfishguard]

The think the reason the pp as well as myself and a few others have asked for it to be closed is because it has becomeing hostile and nothing but a place to complain about unruley children.

why do you think you need to speak for the rest of us? please keep out of our business. why are you clicking to read this thread? wow, the arrogance of some people. read a "lovely teddy bear and all his friends" thread instead. i havent come across a controversial post in the whole thread and im happy for you to leave and not to enter the thread again

 

[averysmom]

Wow, never saw ANY and we visited just about EVERY bathroom in each park

There is only one in every park - so don't feel bad if you missed them They are by the first-aid areas - TBH, I'm not sure if all of them are by a bathroom at all

They are great places to go to IF you are in that general area - but as all nursing mothers know - if you are in Tomorrowland and baby is hungry, you AREN'T going to make it to that baby care station over behind Crystal Palace

 

[NaLisa]

I am a person with a physical disability. I hope my experiences/knowledge can be helpful in clearing this up.

*snip*

Ultimately I don't get why it matters to anyone else or what business it is of theirs why a person walks some and uses a wheelchair/ECV some or why people switch off. There is no advantage to using a wheelchair/ECV at Disney other then avoiding walking. Most rides have integrated lines. If they don't, the official policy is you wait the same amount of time at the ride entrance, then board. The accommodations at Disney are meant to provide equal access, not better.

Also, some people have asked why this is such a hot button issue. The reason is that it is hurtful to regularly have strangers think they know what you need and is best for you. And, strangers judging you when they know nothing about you. My best advice for most situations is, you don't have all the info. Don't judge others and hopefully others will return the favor to you when you do something they don't understand or think is wrong.

Thanks for sharing your story. That last line should be required reading for everyone visiting WDW.

 

[csharpwv]

While I would like to believe it's true that guests in wheelchair lines have to wait the same amount of time - I know better - I saw this family that rotated the wheelchair amongst themselves throughout the day bypass myself, my wife, and hundreds of other guests at least 5 times in one day. And they experienced and left the ride/attraction before we ever got on!

I realize that not all disabilities are visible - or recognizable to the naked eye - BUT this appeared to be a perfectly healthy family - and was evidenced by the kids fighting to ride in the wheelchair.

As I said before, my Mother uses a wheelchair - so I am sensitive to the needs of individuals with a disability.

In short - a wheelchair is NOT a stroller.

 

[Ashton7]

While I would like to believe it's true that guests in wheelchair lines have to wait the same amount of time - I know better - I saw this family that rotated the wheelchair amongst themselves throughout the day bypass myself, my wife, and hundreds of other guests at least 5 times in one day. And they experienced and left the ride/attraction before we ever got on!

And I have to ask yet again -- how is it you just happened to be in the same place at the same time as this supposed family over and over again? And why in the world were you paying such close attention to them that you could even tell that every time you coincidentally saw them, they were switching off in the wheelchair? In your previous post, you even claimed to have seen them leaving the park. Did you follow them around all day? Why?

Furthermore, as someone who uses an ECV, I'm here to tell you that although there are a few attractions where you get streamlined somewhat, they are the exception, not the rule. I find it hard to believe there were five and you just happened to be there for all five ...

 

[kcbedo]

The title of this thread is really misleading.

Perhaps they could change it to "What do you think about people breastfeeding in wheelchairs?"

 

[csharpwv]

And I have to ask yet again -- how is it you just happened to be in the same place at the same time as this supposed family over and over again? And why in the world were you paying such close attention to them that you could even tell that every time you coincidentally saw them, they were switching off in the wheelchair? In your previous post, you even claimed to have seen them leaving the park. Did you follow them around all day? Why?

Furthermore, as someone who uses an ECV, I'm here to tell you that although there are a few attractions where you get streamlined somewhat, they are the exception, not the rule. I find it hard to believe there were five and you just happened to be there for all five ...

Yes, as crazy as it sounds - we kept seeing them over and over through the day at either Animal Kingdom - and yes - we did see them exiting the park and walking to the bus stop which was just beyond ours! We stayed at Saratoga Springs on that trip.

For us it was turning into a game - who are we going to see in the wheelchair next???? It was ridiculous! We weren't following them!
Perhaps they decided to save that way - they didn't have any small (infant) children. I just checked Disney's site - and wheelchair rentals are a dollar or so cheaper. So they may have rented a wheelchair instead of a stroller.

Quite often we will see families multiple times in one day - my wife teases me that I have a very photographic memory - but I remember face and what people were wearing. Once I even noticed that a woman had changed shorts - then my wife remembered seeing her exiting Khali River Rapids.

But anyway -


As I said in a previous post - I don't know why anyone would CHOOSE to use a wheelchair or an ECV if it wasn't medically necessary or as a medically prescribed precautionary measure.

After one trip from Toontown Train Station to the Main Street Train station on my Mom's ECV (so she could ride the train)- I was totally ready to give the keys back to my Momma!


BTW - I think the post a few up from this one is really funny - Breastfeeding in wheelchairs!

 

[delaneyc52]

The title of this thread is really misleading.

Perhaps they could change it to "What do you think about people breastfeeding in wheelchairs?"

 

[FOXFIELDZOO]

A mom feeding her baby was offensive to you? Sad.

I thought the same

 

[SiAmCrAzY]

The title of this thread is really misleading.

Perhaps they could change it to "What do you think about people breastfeeding in wheelchairs?"

 

[FOXFIELDZOO]

When on a bus, don't let your kid take up 2 seats, and if you have a small enough child and the bus is crowded, just let them sit on your lap.

As for breastfeeding, WHO CARES! There's naked women all over tv and I don't see many objections to that. There's nothing wrong with feeding your child...get over it.


And what's the big deal about using mugs from 2 or 3 years ago?
If we bought new mugs every year that would be about an extra $70 a year on mugs! Yes, I know it's not just for mugs, its for the drinks and I really do appreciate it. But disney's not going broke just because I don't get a new one every year, they're making thousands and thousands of $$ from me going 2-3x a yr.
If they're in good condition, I'm re-using them!

And your saving the planet as well. Disney is all for that Maybe they should have it set up that you pay less if you bring back the older mug that way your not stealing anything

 

[FOXFIELDZOO]

Don't walk/run into on comming foot traffic .Right side please
If you don't like kids, little or big ,maybe this is not the place for you