Aerodyne78
Mouseketeer
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- May 24, 2017
My in-laws will be sailing on Holland for a 2-week Alaska cruise during the same time we'll be on the Disney Dream for our first cruise. I'm looking foward to comparing the cruise lines.
Great review thank you. May I ask how you got such a great deal? I just checked and for a family balcony room on NCL it's the same price as an ocean view on DCL for Alaska in the same week 2018 (once I add soda packages for all). While I know some say you have to have a balcony I'm happy to forgo that with the DCL kid's clubs.
Game, set, match!I booked the cruise in December 2015 (on the first day it was eligible to be booked) at the going rate direct with NCL. No deal. Just what it cost. Anyone logging in that day would have paid the same price.
Then I checked Disney's prices several months later on their opening day just for kicks and giggles. I was floored by the cost. We sailed on the Wonder in 2012 to Alaska and paid nothing even remotely close to what they are charging now.
I'm not a TA, and I don't spend my spare time checking prices of cruises I don't plan to take. Therefore I have no idea what you would find if you checked prices today. Anyone that cruises regularly knows that prices fluctuate - often dramatically - for cruises based on timing and how far in advance you book. Anyone can cherry pick pricing to make a point. I didn't do that. As I said from the very beginning my comparison was based on our first hand experience, nothing more, nothing less. Pricing info was based on comparing both Disney and NCL pricing on the first day the cruises were eligible to be booked - by anyone - no deals.
Fellow Pens Fan here originally from SW PA. It seems NCL does a better job in Alaska or maybe it is the ships. We sailed the Epic two years ago and it was our worst cruise experience ever. Embarkation was chaos (out of Miami), the bar staff was rude (especially if you only wanted a Pepsi on their drink program) and the nighttime entertainment was poor. We didn't think anything was "Freestyle" because you had to book every show if you wanted to see it because they all sold out. But we sailed NCL around Hawaii previously and they were great. So maybe the ship makes a difference.
When originally researching this cruise, I thought the regular balcony cabins on the Sun seemed really small. Now that I've been on the ship, I'm not so sure. Walking by a few times when the rooms were being cleaned I glanced in and while they are smaller than Disney's they looked fine to me. You can't tell a lot by just walking by, but if the storage was as plentiful as it was in our cabin, I think a balcony would work really nicely - especially for a couple.
Holland America really surprised us. I've always considered them the "old people ship" - a terrible stereotype, I know. As I mentioned, we spent a lot of time down in Canada Place checking out the ships. There were Holland Ships there two different days, plus we saw others in the ports we visited. The mix of passengers we observed was really no different than what we experienced on NCL. There probably won't be as many children as on Disney, naturally, but we saw all ages, families, young couples and retirees. The thing that impressed us the most was the condition of the ships. They are beautiful and so well maintained. The only ships that compared (from the outside, anyway) were the Wonder and the World (a ship for the mega rich where they buy their cabin and sail around the world, getting off and on whenever they want). Holland's ships were beautiful. I plan on checking them out. I will look forward to your report!
When we were on the Breakaway, the verandahs were much smaller than what we're used to on Disney (the biggest we have ever had were on HAL), but they were fine for us and we really enjoyed our verandah (except for the dang smokers next door who finally got caught and fined). We had the absolute best room steward on the Breakaway than we have had on any cruise, including Disney.
When we sailed on the Magic out of NYC last fall we were docked next to the Breakaway. What a beautiful ship! The one thing we did notice was the balconies. Just like you, we thought they looked small. But for that itinerary I don't think I'd mind. We are weird. On our warm weather cruises we've hardly every used the balcony other than to step out for a few minutes for some fresh air. But our cold weather cruises have all been to places with amazing scenery so we just bundle up and live out there! That's when I'd probably miss a large balcony, but I'm sure we could make it work as you did - assuming there would be no smokers out there .
We were a bit worried about smoke going into this cruise, especially with the casino. But it wasn't even the slightest issue. We got lucky and had no one smoking on the balconies around us. It's not allowed, but as you found out some people are "special". We aren't gamblers, so we only passed through the casino twice going somewhere else and the smoke really wasn't that bad. Even if it had been we didn't have to pass through, it was just a little bit quicker.
I've read very conflicting reports about smoke from the casino on the Breakaway drifting out into other areas. Some say it's awful, some say they didn't notice it all. It certainly wasn't a problem on the Sun, thank goodness.
I booked the cruise in December 2015 (on the first day it was eligible to be booked) at the going rate direct with NCL. No deal. Just what it cost. Anyone logging in that day would have paid the same price.
Then I checked Disney's prices several months later on their opening day just for kicks and giggles. I was floored by the cost. We sailed on the Wonder in 2012 to Alaska and paid nothing even remotely close to what they are charging now.
I'm not a TA, and I don't spend my spare time checking prices of cruises I don't plan to take. Therefore I have no idea what you would find if you checked prices today. Anyone that cruises regularly knows that prices fluctuate - often dramatically - for cruises based on timing and how far in advance you book. Anyone can cherry pick pricing to make a point. I didn't do that. As I said from the very beginning my comparison was based on our first hand experience, nothing more, nothing less. Pricing info was based on comparing both Disney and NCL pricing on the first day the cruises were eligible to be booked - by anyone - no deals.
Interesting, we booked our June 2018 DCL Alaska cruise on opening day and paid $8900 for the four of us in an oceanview on deck 5. I just priced the brand new NCL Bliss for Alaska in a deck 5 oceanview and it's only $6033, a mini suite is $6958. Those prices include the included Ultimate Dining and the Beverage Plan. These prices are for the 6/11/18 DCL and 6/9/18 NCL cruises.Great review thank you. May I ask how you got such a great deal? I just checked and for a family balcony room on NCL it's the same price as an ocean view on DCL for Alaska in the same week 2018 (once I add soda packages for all). While I know some say you have to have a balcony I'm happy to forgo that with the DCL kid's clubs.
How far in advance are their opening day prices? I understand prices fluctuate. I just found it interesting that at today's prices they are to me equal.
Interesting, we booked our June 2018 DCL Alaska cruise on opening day and paid $8900 for the four of us in an oceanview on deck 5. I just priced the brand new NCL Bliss for Alaska in a deck 5 oceanview and it's only $6033, a mini suite is $6958. Those prices include the included Ultimate Dining and the Beverage Plan. These prices are for the 6/11/18 DCL and 6/9/18 NCL cruises.
I noticed how low the prices of the cruises can go when you book a last minute deal with NCL... We came so close to book a Bermuda cruise in june!
Interesting, we booked our June 2018 DCL Alaska cruise on opening day and paid $8900 for the four of us in an oceanview on deck 5. I just priced the brand new NCL Bliss for Alaska in a deck 5 oceanview and it's only $6033, a mini suite is $6958. Those prices include the included Ultimate Dining and the Beverage Plan. These prices are for the 6/11/18 DCL and 6/9/18 NCL cruises.
Kid Stuff:
I’m not much help with this subject. Our son is 19, so no kid's clubs for him. There were kids on board, but not nearly as many as on Disney. That is either good or bad, depending on your perspective. We liked it. Don’t get me wrong. I love kids. I have one. But we’ve raised him (well you never stop raising them, but you know what I mean), and don’t necessarily want to spend our vacation with a bunch of little kids. I’m not becoming the cranky “get off my lawn” lady (or at least I hope not!), but I do like a little peace and quiet in my down time.
There was an 18-20 meet up scheduled the first night in the tapas bar. Our son was the only one that showed up and the bar tender had no clue it was even scheduled. Obviously, not a big thing on NCL (or least not on the Sun).
I have no clue what the kid’s clubs are like other than that they had them, because I saw them on the the deck plans. The kids we saw on the ship looked to be having a good time. That’s pretty much all I’ve got on that subject.
Hopefully someone reading this with smaller children can chime in and relate their experiences.
Thank you so much for your thorough review. I am so happy that you had such a fabulous experience on NCL. I just wanted to chime in on the Kid Stuff. We sailed on NCL Gem Eastern Canada cruise out of NYC June 2016. My teens 13 & 16 begged to go back to Disney after that trip. The tween club, 10 - 12 was held in a conference room. Seriously, there was a piece of paper that one of the couselors wrote "Tween Club" on that they posted on the door at open hours. My older son was able to go to the teen club which wasn't fancy like Disney, but was at least a place to socialize with other teens. My 12 year old (we cruised 2 weeks before his 13th bday) was stuck in a conference room that was accessed by going through the smoky casino. The tween counselors made the best of it, but it was seriously lacking. I'm sure the newer ships have fabulous kids clubs, but if you are going on an old ship take the time to ask questions about all the clubs. Lesson learned and we are going on the Wonder to Alaska in 2018.
Interesting, we booked our June 2018 DCL Alaska cruise on opening day and paid $8900 for the four of us in an oceanview on deck 5. I just priced the brand new NCL Bliss for Alaska in a deck 5 oceanview and it's only $6033, a mini suite is $6958. Those prices include the included Ultimate Dining and the Beverage Plan. These prices are for the 6/11/18 DCL and 6/9/18 NCL cruises.
Thank you for such a thorough review. We began testing the NCL and RCI waters a few years ago and like the big ships for all they offer. We've been on the Breakaway and Getaway - both were family reunions with kids of all ages. We liked them well enough but found that RCI's Oasis class ships have more in the way of family friendly shows as well as 3 pools (plus an adult pool plus a kids pool and splash area). We love all the dining options, especially dinner buffets on the nights we don't feel like going to a MDR, which is most nights! We did enjoy freestyle on NCL though and did eat in the MDR many nights because of the family. We like the cooked to order stations on both. My daughter's been in the kids clubs on NCL (won't go in Disney's) and liked them. On RCI she spends most of her time in the pool or on the rock climbing wall. NYC is our home port so we do have smaller (and older) ships to choose from but I don't really think they're for us, which is too bad since it's so much easier not to fly!