Pacolovestacos
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Taking an oscar away would be rather stupid. The oscar was based on the quality of the work and has nothing to do with the character of the person receiving it. These aren't humanitarian awards.
Only in an industry full of phony tough guys could this loser get away with this habitual abuse.....what a bunch of cowards, I could not have any less respect for that town as a whole
So Harvey Weinstein is going to challenge his firing from The Weinstein Co. Apparently his contract was written in such a way that if he was charged with sexual harassment, the company couldn't fire him. Instead, Weinstein would have to personally pay for any judgment that was awarded + a fine (payable to The Weinstein Co). First offense was 250k, second 500k, third 750k, 4th and each one after that 1 million.
Should be an interesting case.
Perhaps this is just the beginning of "The Purge"? Everything is wide open and you cannot hide any longer.
What do you think?
I definitely am feeling some sort of shift. A real change. Time will tell.
I definitely am feeling some sort of shift. A real change. Time will tell.
I'm not. I wish I were but I think a lot of the reaction to this situation has nothing to do with how wrong Weinstein's action were.
There's been plenty of other similar situations in the past year and the reaction was very different.
I hear you sunshinehighway, and understand, but at least it's not getting shut down. And an Amazon producer has now taken a leave. And that story should be, hopefully will be, brought into the light. Whatever it is. I guess I am feeling a shift that people can not hide as well.
And I feel for whatever reason that at least the women's stories are being believed. That was not happening for some of Bill Cosby's accusers.
Even people here that are calling certain actions hypocritical, do state that they believe the stories.
Yes I know but I do think that is a palpable change. The believing.
And women are understanding the strength in not backing down. God love Rose McGowan. She is really fighting.
Yeah I get what you are saying. Unfortunately I think some people only believe the accusers because they don't like Weinstein.
However, you are forgetting that they really dislike some of the victims too. And still have stated that they believe the women's words.
Exhausting, eh?
It's unreal that we are discussing this in this manner. I feel sad that it has come to this, bled into this, for conversations about sexual assault/harassment. For everyone, all sides. Canada has its own issues and problems but I feel exhausted for such a wonderful country to face all this, all the time. I can't even imagine what family holidays are like. Or maybe people are more civil, and not as divided as I am imagining at these events.
However, you are forgetting that they really dislike some of the victims too. And still have stated that they believe the women's words.
Exhausting, eh?
It's unreal that we are discussing this in this manner. I feel sad that it has come to this, bled into this, for conversations about sexual assault/harassment. For everyone, all sides. Canada has its own issues and problems but I feel exhausted for such a wonderful country to face all this, all the time. I can't even imagine what family holidays are like. Or maybe people are more civil, and not as divided as I am imagining at these events.
The more I read that it was an open "secret" the more I think that this will never change. Women desperate to become famous will probably continue let this happen. I don't think Weinstein's behaviour is an anomaly. I'm actually starting to get frustrated with how many men and women knew about this and didn't speak up. Weinstein is going down however there are many more to take his place and many more women that will let this happen and keep silent for their careers.
Most countries, including the US, have laws against sexual harassment, and for a good reason because if it was allowed it would still be rampant everywhere and I doubt it's been irradiated in any society but it sure has tamed the beast. It seems that Hollywood has not caught up to current times and I'm not even sure it will even after this.
Anna,
Just to be clear I was off topic talking about how political beliefs are sliding into every single conversation. And how draining that be all around. Nothing more in that post.
Well, that's what I get for speed reading.
It is so incredibly layered. All of it.
I am saddened with what I see as the reluctance. Yes some of it is "not affecting me". Some of it "it's none of my business" or simply I will just pretend I don't know anything. I am getting paid well etc. etc. Absolutely.
But I also think we are grappling with an issue that is rarely discussed. An uncomfortable one. Often people that are not the victims, but know, do not speak up because of their knowing about their own actions, family member's actions or friends. It clouds many people's willingness to be a hero for others.
In Hollywood, you only have to look as far as Casey Affleck, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon to understand how deep that can all run.
I think it's something that is critical to making changes. That people hide out, and not speak up, for their own reasons. We need to break through that somehow.
And women need men. We need men in these instances. We are strong on our own, of course, but we really need men to stand up too. Stronger than Brad Pitt threatening Weinstein at a party kind of standing up.
(And yes I know there is harassment/assault on both sides)
I appreciated that at least Jane Fonda said she was ashamed that she knew for a year, but did nothing. She then stated I honestly didn't think it was my place because she was told by one of the victims and didn't think it was her place to take it further.
So complicated all around.