Time to rant...

That's ridiculous. But how do you know who got there first if you're sitting? How do you keep the order? I'd rather stand and wait and ensure my place in line. Pop has the corrals and I prefer that.

Since we are complaining, I hate when there's standing room only and a family with a stroller and babies gets on. Then my husband feels compelled to give up his seat because he's watching them try to balance and hold a baby. My husband has a bad ankle and the standing still on it is torture for him sometimes. (It doesn't hurt as much walking as it does just standing there putting weight on it.) We wait for a bus to sit if his ankle is acting up. But there's no way he's going to stay seated while a mom stands up with a baby. I say wait for the next bus if you have babies. It's not fair to the other people who got seats first.
I don't think it necessarily has to be in exact order, but if we ever show up and there's a big crowd already there waiting, we just hang back and let everyone else get on. I know there really aren't any rules but it should be common courtesy to let at least some of the others that have been waiting on first.

The seats are another big reason I don't like taking the buses. I don't mind standing and would like to give up my seat when needed but have had experiences where someone is either too nice or acts offended when you offer your seat, so it's an awkward situation sometimes to ask unless it's very clear they need to sit.
 
That's ridiculous. But how do you know who got there first if you're sitting? How do you keep the order? I'd rather stand and wait and ensure my place in line. Pop has the corrals and I prefer that.

Since we are complaining, I hate when there's standing room only and a family with a stroller and babies gets on. Then my husband feels compelled to give up his seat because he's watching them try to balance and hold a baby. My husband has a bad ankle and the standing still on it is torture for him sometimes. (It doesn't hurt as much walking as it does just standing there putting weight on it.) We wait for a bus to sit if his ankle is acting up. But there's no way he's going to stay seated while a mom stands up with a baby. I say wait for the next bus if you have babies. It's not fair to the other people who got seats first.
The problem is when they get on the bus knowing that it is standing room only.

And yes, I do expect them to wait for the next bus. The same that I do if there isn't room for me and my scooter.
 
That's ridiculous. But how do you know who got there first if you're sitting? How do you keep the order? I'd rather stand and wait and ensure my place in line. Pop has the corrals and I prefer that.

Since we are complaining, I hate when there's standing room only and a family with a stroller and babies gets on. Then my husband feels compelled to give up his seat because he's watching them try to balance and hold a baby. My husband has a bad ankle and the standing still on it is torture for him sometimes. (It doesn't hurt as much walking as it does just standing there putting weight on it.) We wait for a bus to sit if his ankle is acting up. But there's no way he's going to stay seated while a mom stands up with a baby. I say wait for the next bus if you have babies. It's not fair to the other people who got seats first.

Hmm. This is a new one. And then wait 20 more minutes with a baby (plus a toddler or other small kids) for another one? Before kids I would never expect someone with small children to subject themselves to waiting for another bus when they could fit on one so that other people didn’t have to (voluntarily) give up their seats.

It is very nice that he gets up but he really shouldn’t. You can’t fault a family for getting on a bus because you don’t want your husband to voluntarily give up his seat.
 


Nothing is worse than the horrible boat between BC and HS...
Maybe we just got lucky but we used this multiple times a couple weeks ago and would use 10 times out of 10 over a bus. Very little wait and I don't mind the stops at the other resorts because at least we are making some progress to the destination.
 
I don't think it necessarily has to be in exact order, but if we ever show up and there's a big crowd already there waiting, we just hang back and let everyone else get on. I know there really aren't any rules but it should be common courtesy to let at least some of the others that have been waiting on first.

The seats are another big reason I don't like taking the buses. I don't mind standing and would like to give up my seat when needed but have had experiences where someone is either too nice or acts offended when you offer your seat, so it's an awkward situation sometimes to ask unless it's very clear they need to sit.
Just to clarify... I meant it's ridiculous that they went to the front and boarded first knowing others were there first.
 
Hmm. This is a new one. And then wait 20 more minutes with a baby (plus a toddler or other small kids) for another one? Before kids I would never expect someone with small children to subject themselves to waiting for another bus when they could fit on one so that other people didn’t have to (voluntarily) give up their seats.

It is very nice that he gets up but he really shouldn’t. You can’t fault a family for getting on a bus.

Exactly. It's the family's fault for getting on because your husband feels compelled to offer his seat? If he would stay seated then there wouldn't be any issue. He doesn't have to offer up his seat - the second he does and the other party accepts is the moment he takes responsibility for any burden or ill effects from standing on his ankle.
 


It is very nice that he gets up but he really shouldn’t. You can’t fault a family for getting on a bus because you don’t want your husband to voluntarily give up his seat.
I don't fault them for getting on. I guess I fault them for getting on and taking someone else's seat. LOL.

My husband would never sit there and let her stand. He would feel bad.
 
Exactly. It's the family's fault for getting on because your husband feels compelled to offer his seat? If he would stay seated then there wouldn't be any issue. He doesn't have to offer up his seat - the second he does and the other party accepts is the moment he takes responsibility for any burden or ill effects from standing on his ankle.
Yes, I know, but it's awkward for him. It's not like he has an obvious ankle injury. Besides, he would feel terrible if the woman or baby fell, etc.
 
Hmm. This is a new one. And then wait 20 more minutes with a baby (plus a toddler or other small kids) for another one? Before kids I would never expect someone with small children to subject themselves to waiting for another bus when they could fit on one so that other people didn’t have to (voluntarily) give up their seats.

It is very nice that he gets up but he really shouldn’t. You can’t fault a family for getting on a bus because you don’t want your husband to voluntarily give up his seat.

Not for anything, but families with babies wait all day long at Disney. They wait in lines for rides, etc. Should we let all the families with babies go in front of us so they don't have to wait? I don't think waiting ten minutes to be able to safely sit with your baby is too much to do. If they aren't offered a seat they could be risking the safety of their baby to save ten minutes. They would then be relying on others to give up their seat so that they don't risk the safety of their baby.
 
We drive from Texas to Disney World every time and once we are there, I don't drive again until I leave. We have used the buses to and from the WL, POR, Pop, and All Star Sports and between parks. We have found them to be very convenient. In 8 trips, we have only run into long waits at POR because of multiple stops and at park closing going back to Pop. But that is because of the massive amount of people heading back. We like to park hop and I don't want to find my car each time. We are usually at the bus stops by 6:45am and rarely wait more than 15 minutes for a bus. If we do, we ask someone to radio one in. We have asked a CM on the sidewalk or a bus driver from another park and sometimes one of us will run in to ask at the front counter. When that happens one generally arrives within 10-15 minutes. It is not a perfect system, but I think they do a good job of moving 1000s of people every day. Mass transit is just that - mass transit. I would not imagine that I would attempt to get anywhere using any transportation other than my own in less than an hour minimum. If we have an ADR at another resort, we will generally take a taxi, except HDD.

I'm sorry you have had bad luck with the busses. If you do give them another shot, just realize that you can ask a CM to call for one if they do not show up within a reasonable time. I will say, I pick resort that only have one bus stop for the reason that a bus cannot get full before it gets to where I am waiting. For example, I stay at All Star Sports, not Music or Movies, because if they are sharing a bus at slower times, All Stars is picked up first. I like POP because it doesn't share a bus with another resort. Maybe that is partially why we have had good experiences.
 
Not for anything, but families with babies wait all day long at Disney. They wait in lines for rides, etc. Should we let all the families with babies go in front of us so they don't have to wait? I don't think waiting ten minutes to be able to safely sit with your baby is too much to do. If they aren't offered a seat they could be risking the safety of their baby to save ten minutes. They would then be relying on others to give up their seat so that they don't risk the safety of their baby.

I am not saying people with babies should go to the front of any line or get any special treatment. I am not saying anyone should give up their seat. I’m saying that they should be allowed to keep their rightful place in line and stand on the bus and not wait for another.

ETA: I have stood holding my babies on trains and subways and trolleys and other public transportation. It is a part of the daily life of many in large cities that rely on public mass transportation to get anywhere.

My opinion. We can agree to disagree.
 
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Yes, I know, but it's awkward for him. It's not like he has an obvious ankle injury. Besides, he would feel terrible if the woman or baby fell, etc.
I'm sure he would feel bad.

Heck, around here, he would be called a jerk. Someone with no manners. Wasn't raised right. Self important guy. If, of course, he didn't get up and give her his seat.

Sorry, guys. You can't have it both ways. You can't complain that people have no manners because they don't give up their seat to the elderly, people carrying children/babies or pregnant women; then laugh when people say that they feel awkward for not giving up their seat.

Remember, it is posts here that help to make people feel awkward.
 
I don't fault them for getting on. I guess I fault them for getting on and taking someone else's seat. LOL.

My husband would never sit there and let her stand. He would feel bad.

Ok, but that’s your husband’s choice. He’s choosing to allow strangers to make his ride uncomfortable. Unless the family communicated to him (either verbally or non-verbally) that they expected him to give up his seat, they weren’t doing anything wrong. They didn’t take someone else’s seat. They simply accepted a seat that was offered to them. They may have had no expectation at all of having a seat, and should they have to wait simply because some stranger may “feel bad” that they’re standing and not sitting. Most people probably aren’t thinking that they are negatively impacting the feelings of others just by standing on a bus.
 
I am not saying people with babies should go to the front of any line or get any special treatment. I am not saying anyone should give up their seat. I’m saying that they should be allowed to keep their rightful place in line and stand on the bus and not wait for another.

I have stood holding my babies on trains and subways and trolleys and other public transportation. It is a part of the daily life of many in large cities that rely on public mass transportation to get anywhere.

My opinion. We can agree to disagree.

I know what you're saying.

My point was that people with babies have to wait in Disney for all sorts of things. Waiting ten minutes for another bus so that they can safely sit with their baby is just that... Another ten minute wait. I don't think it's unreasonable. I've seen parents do it and to me it makes sense. They are now in the front of the line for the next bus and can sit with their baby safely. I saw one baby squirming all over the place and the father had a tough time holding it and holding on to the pole at the same time.

I guess I have an issue with someone risking their baby getting hurt just so they can get on a bus and not wait for the next one. Unless of course they assume someone will give up their seat for them, and then that raises my other issue.
 
I'm used to taking public transport at home everyday (so no stranger to buses not coming, arriving packed etc) so Disney buses and all their faults don't really bother me. I'd still rather be getting a bus to a park then to work!!


I'm in the opposite camp (sort of); in terms of really being bothered having to wait for buses, or them not coming or whatever.

I do that all year, I don't need that crap on vacation!!! Also, if Disney is going to charge what they charge they need to provide services accordingly.

However I agree that I would much rather wait for a bus to the MK then in 20 degrees here.
 
I know what you're saying.

My point was that people with babies have to wait in Disney for all sorts of things. Waiting ten minutes for another bus so that they can safely sit with their baby is just that... Another ten minute wait. I don't think it's unreasonable. I've seen parents do it and to me it makes sense. They are now in the front of the line for the next bus and can sit with their baby safely. I saw one baby squirming all over the place and the father had a tough time holding it and holding on to the pole at the same time.

I guess I have an issue with someone risking their baby getting hurt just so they can get on a bus and not wait for the next one. Unless of course they assume someone will give up their seat for them, and then that raises my other issue.

We can still agree to disagree :)
 
You can stay onsite and rent a car. Won't lessen the price though. But if it's about the money that's a different issue.

So how long was the travel time to and from the parks to your resort?

We drive down anyway, so already have a car.

I see the bus transportation as a cost included in the hotel stay.

Once we decided that the bus transportation is too inconvenient, I'm not paying the extra cost to stay onsite.

If I'm already going to have to drive, might as well stay offsite and save some money.

That's my thought, anyway.
 
Ok, but that’s your husband’s choice. He’s choosing to allow strangers to make his ride uncomfortable. Unless the family communicated to him (either verbally or non-verbally) that they expected him to give up his seat, they weren’t doing anything wrong. They didn’t take someone else’s seat. They simply accepted a seat that was offered to them. They may have had no expectation at all of having a seat, and should they have to wait simply because some stranger may “feel bad” that they’re standing and not sitting. Most people probably aren’t thinking that they are negatively impacting the feelings of others just by standing on a bus.

Yes. That's my husband's choice. I agree. But he feels he doesn't have a choice. He's not going to let someone with a baby stand.
 
Uh oh! Nervous about being car-less for the first time in a while on my trip starting tomorrow and later in March. One stay at All Star Music and one at Yacht Club. We'll see what happens - I plan on using the bus to get to the parks super early all three days, so I'm hoping it won't be an issue. I've got the Uber app ready if I get fed up. And at the end of the night, I'm definitely open to taking an Uber.

I keep seeing confusing info on this -- what time do the buses start? Thinking of my MK day with an EMH opening of 7 am.
 
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