Disney Transportation has gone down hill

[maxiesmom]

idk who you are or why you even typed that response. NUMBER ONE I take my grandchildren's safety as priority. We had enough adults that were with us that we stood with them leaning on us. NUMBER TWO I believe that ADULTS that have no mobility issues, no children with them and have some decency should offer seats to children, pregnant women, elderly people.

Now, if you think that I would let a total stranger dictate my grandchildren's safety then you are dilusional. I can not understand why you made the comment other than to be rude and insulting. Did i insult you by making my comment? I don't make it a habit of making rude, crude or insulting comments. I reread my post and didn't see where i asked or insinuated that I wanted tips on how to govern my grandchildren's safety.

There is a lot more i would love to say. But I won't. I will just laugh and smile and get on with my day. have a good one.

In your post you implied people not getting up and offering seats for your grandchildren was a problem. You knew for sure those adults had no mobility issues how? I would be one of those who look totally fine, but I have days where if I tried to stand on a bus it would end with me falling. You can't look at someone and judge.

I used to bring my dad to WDW fairly often. Last trip with him, now that he is getting up there in age, I rented a car. I would never get him on a Disney bus expecting others to offer their seat for him. If he fell because no one did, that would be on me. Not on the strangers on the bus.

If anyone has a family member that needs a seat, then it is on them to see to it they have a seat. By waiting for a bus with open seating. Or by renting a car. Or using a car service to get around.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Last trip we had no issues with buses. Our trip in December, we had to stand a lot. Even our grandchildren stood a few times and they were 4,5, and 6 at the time. Grown men sitting while they stood. Now, this was only once or twice, but still ...

Looks can be deceiving.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

They are just frustrated with non resort guests they never said you couldn't do it.

Be ready for fights on this site when the gondola is packed with "tourists" who are not staying at any of the resorts on the line.

Disney presently doesn't have dedicated transportation services based on the hotel you are staying at (meaning ONLY guests of X hotel can ride Y transportation). Hard to get frustrated when that's not part of the deal to begin with.

 

[tommygunn]

Enough for...on demand service? A bus every 5 minutes???

Disney bus service is glorified public busing. And if it doesn't work for you, that is more than ok. I know when I go to WDW with my sister, I will have to rent a car. She hates the buses. When I go with my nephew, we are more than fine with the bus service. If someone thinks a bus is going to go by every 10 minutes, then they have their expectations set too high. But I do agree an hour wait every time is not ok at all.

My point is that in order to meet the every 20 minute promise they need 2x the amount of buses.

 

[FCDub]

Oh good, we got the ECV debate and the “everyone should stand up for me” debate.

Yawn. So predictable.

 

[maxiesmom]

My point is that in order to meet the every 20 minute promise they need 2x the amount of buses.

Approximately 20 minutes to be precise. According to the Disney website.

 

[sethschroeder]

Disney presently doesn't have dedicated transportation services based on the hotel you are staying at (meaning ONLY guests of X hotel can ride Y transportation). Hard to get frustrated when that's not part of the deal to begin with.

Sorry part of the deal is transportation so yes it's not a stretch to expect it.

I am fine with it but I can understand why less informed people might be upset with random park guests using the bus and filling them up.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Sorry part of the deal is transportation so yes it's not a stretch to expect it.

I am fine with it but I can understand why less informed people might be upset with random park guests using the bus and filling them up.

I'll repeat

Disney presently doesn't have dedicated transportation services based on the hotel you are staying at (meaning ONLY guests of X hotel can ride Y transportation). Hard to get frustrated when that's not part of the deal to begin with.

That in bolded is not part of any communication Disney has with their transportation. That is not part of the deal which is what I was meaning and that would be on you to expect that when there's nothing of the sort saying that.

Keep in mind if you're of that mindset that only guests staying a X resort get to use Y transportation it will be on the guest to find their own transportation any time they want to go to a resort that they are not staying at.

No using that transportation to get a meal at a different resort or shop or to get anywhere else but the hotel they are staying at and Disney's parks. That means for example if you were staying at Poly and using the monorail you could only use it to go to MK and Epcot--no going to any of the other resorts on the monorail. Would you honestly assume that? Or would you assume you're able to freely use the monorail to go from Poly to the Contemporary and to the Grand Floridian. Heck Disney even has it's own tour you can take that goes on the monorail (Highway in the Sky Dine Around) and *gasp* that doesn't even require park tickets---shame on those people lol.

I doubt people these days would be ok with the above. And certainly on the Boards you'll find many posters who have used Disney's transportation to get somewhere other than their hotel they are staying at and the parks (especially for ADRs). If the alternative is ultra strict I don't think you'd find too many up for that

 

[kaytieeldr]

NUMBER TWO I believe that ADULTS that have no mobility issues, no children with them and have some decency should offer seats to children, pregnant women, elderly people.

You can't always tell someone's ability to stand on a moving vehicle or how little strength the have left after being in the park all day or whether tey have balance issues. Best advice if you have travel companions who you're not comfortable having stand on a bus? Step aside at the door and wait for the next bus.

That's what I'm referring to in my Avatar.

Oh. Oops. In my defense, avatars are about 1/4" on my phone

 

[kaytieeldr]

My point is that in order to meet the every 20 minute promise they need 2x the amount of buses.

No. They don't need twice as many buses. If that were true, buses would currently be coming every 40 minutes. And 20 minutes isn't a promise, or guarantee, or anything of the sort. It's an estimate. It requires comicated scheduling/routing. Twenty minutes requires private roads.

Sorry part of the deal is transportation so yes it's not a stretch to expect it.

Um, nope. The deal is no-charge transportation. Period. Zero restrictions regarding who can use what to go where.

 

[sethschroeder]

I'll repeat


That in bolded is not part of any communication Disney has with their transportation. That is not part of the deal which is what I was meaning and that would be on you to expect that when there's nothing of the sort saying that.

Keep in mind if you're of that mindset that only guests staying a X resort get to use Y transportation it will be on the guest to find their own transportation any time they want to go to a resort that they are not staying at.

No using that transportation to get a meal at a different resort or shop or to get anywhere else but the hotel they are staying at and Disney's parks. That means for example if you were staying at Poly and using the monorail you could only use it to go to MK and Epcot--no going to any of the other resorts on the monorail. Would you honestly assume that? Or would you assume you're able to freely use the monorail to go from Poly to the Contemporary and to the Grand Floridian. Heck Disney even has it's own tour you can take that goes on the monorail (Highway in the Sky Dine Around) and *gasp* that doesn't even require park tickets---shame on those people lol.

I doubt people these days would be ok with the above. And certainly on the Boards you'll find many posters who have used Disney's transportation to get somewhere other than their hotel they are staying at and the parks (especially for ADRs). If the alternative is ultra strict I don't think you'd find too many up for that

Sorry I am trying not to be a jerk. They have a right when spending $400+ a night to expect easy transportation and get on their resort transportation without people crowding them when they are not staying at the resort.

It's fine if you are fine with it, it's fine that the rules say anyone can ride transportation (even those not spending a dollar with Disney), it's even fine that you personally do it.

It's also completely acceptable that someone is frustrated with a crowded bus or not being able to catch a bus because a bunch of extra riders come from Epcot specifically to catch a bus at Beach Club.

Sorry but you have no ground to stand on to day they can't be frustrated with it. Cite a million sources it doesn't devalue them being frustrated. It's a Disney issue with not allocating busses based on this happening to both serve the Epcot and Beach Club guest equally.

 

[sethschroeder]

Um, nope. The deal is no-charge transportation. Period. Zero restrictions regarding who can use what to go where.

Sorry nope as an outsider their expectation is easy transportation roughly every 20 mins.

I personally know better and you know better. That being said Disney sells something else to guests.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Sorry I am trying not to be a jerk. They have a right when spending $400+ a night to expect easy transportation and get on their resort transportation without people crowding them when they are not staying at the resort.

It's fine if you are fine with it, it's fine that the rules say anyone can ride transportation (even those not spending a dollar with Disney), it's even fine that you personally do it.

It's also completely acceptable that someone is frustrated with a crowded bus or not being able to catch a bus because a bunch of extra riders come from Epcot specifically to catch a bus at Beach Club.

Sorry but you have no ground to stand on to day they can't be frustrated with it. Cite a million sources it doesn't devalue them being frustrated. It's a Disney issue with not allocating busses based on this happening to both serve the Epcot and Beach Club guest equally.

You're completely ignoring my comments or misunderstanding what I said. Perhaps go back and reread what I wrote.

If the people spending $400+ (cuz I guess money is where it's all out to the heck with folks who don't spend as much as me ) are ok with being restricted to only going to their hotel and the parks that's one thing (that's the part about dedictated transportation services you think people assume they have).

But if you were hoping that $400+ a night got you transporation access to anywhere else but the parks and your hotel...well I'm guessing people's tunes would change In other words you'd be part of the problem if you use Disney's transporation at any time other than your specific hotel and the parks.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Sorry I am trying not to be a jerk. They have a right when spending $400+ a night to expect easy transportation

Yes, of course.

and get on their resort transportation without people crowding them when they are not staying at the resort.

But this is not realistic. I'm not sure why people would nedd to take a bus anywhere from Beach Club, given that Disney provides direct park-to-park and park-to-resort transportation, but they don't discourage anyone from using any available transportation.

 

[sethschroeder]

But this is not realistic. I'm not sure why people would nedd to take a bus anywhere from Beach Club, given that Disney provides direct park-to-park and park-to-resort transportation, but they don't discourage anyone from using any available transportation.

That was the comment of the original poster though. No one said it was against the rules they simply said it was crowded because everyone was jumping out the international gateway (and someone also said they did it as well).

So I am not getting your comment. They were frustrated and I can understand why if they were experience big crowds in their resorts.

I can also see why people might do this moving forward with the construction at Epcot. I personally plan on taking the bus to HS and then boating it to Epcot when we go likely (easier access to F&W with less walking if we take the boat).

 

[eric1985]

Um, yes? Mobility device users can switch off any time and it's frankly none of anybody's bysiness except theirs.

Now, if by group scooter use you mean multiple persons at once, no. That's a safety issue.

So then a person that doesn't require a scooter can ride around the parks?

 

[eric1985]

I couldn't disagree more. What benefits are there????

There are no benefits to riding a scooter at WDW. Most lines are mainstreamed, where the scooter goes in the same line as everyone else. There is no front of the line benefit with scooters. What other benefits are you referring to? The benefit of having to be on high alert so you don't accidentally hit someone? The benefit of not being able to see much if you are near other guests?

The benefits are going to a bus stop with a line and skipping the line thus avoiding the crowd. If this is happening at every stop, it slows the bus service down. Now...despite the cat fight that this comment started, I'm not saying that people who need scooters are at fault. But there are people that use scooters that don't need them. I traveled with my 88 year old grandmother recently and we rented a wheelchair and parked it in the stroller area when we entered attractions. We also placed it on the bus but boarded with everyone else. I recognize that there are disabilities that people can't see, but it seems that the number of scooters has increased drastically.

 

[tommygunn]

I think it’s the scooters that make bus scheduling a logistical challenge. Hard to predict how many scooters you will encounter on a particular route and it’s necessary to accommodate them. Which is why I reiterate that Disney really needs 2x the amount of buses they have to insure that 20 minute time frame they promise in a fashion that is safe and reasonably comfortable for all.

Oh and the monorails are another issue. Boy do they need an overhaul. Breaking down often. Even when they work they rattle and sound terrible. Air conditioning works sporadically. And they all smell like camels. Time for the mouse to open up his wallet.

 

[fla4fun]

So then a person that doesn't require a scooter can ride around the parks?

Yes, sometimes. When my mom first started needing a scooter, she needed it most of the time, but wanted to walk when she could. I did not need the scooter, but when she wanted to walk for a while, I would drive it so it would be with us when she grew tired and needed it again. It wouldn’t make sense, for example at Epcot, to leave the ECV and then have to walk back to retrieve it. So she was on it most of the time, but not all the time.

For what it’s worth, they are no fun to drive, a pain to deal with in lines and on buses, and everyone treats you like you are invisible when you drive one. You can’t enjoy the view or just relax because you always have to be on alert. I can’t imagine that there are a ton of people using them that don’t have to. We certainly didn’t notice any perks for using one.

 

[doubletoast]

We travel as a party of three, my wife using a manual wheelchair, and for as many times as it seems like we have gotten line-skipping treatment, we have also had to wait for more times than not because of the chair.

How fun is it when you pull up and you are the third person at the stop, but the first two people are in ECVs? Plenty of room on the bus, but we have to wait. Or if people start getting on the bus and the bus driver decides it's easier to apologize to us than to stop them and let us on.

What really leaves us dejected is when we see a person drive up in the ECV and then get out and walk on to the bus and seat in a seat while the driver parks it on the bus. You never know what mobility issues someone might have, so you just sigh and wait. Times like this is when Disney needs to institute a 'Take an ECV, Leave an ECV' program.