Rise of the Resistance BOARDING GROUPS Superthread Part 1 *No Ride Spoilers Please* *PLEASE READ POSTS 1-4*

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News this morning that Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run is moving to FP+ at Hollywood Studios 2/19, I think it’s safe to assume that a change is coming at Disneyland shortly as well, as the ride is actually less popular here.

Edit: Clarifying that what I mean is that the ride has shorter average wait times at DL.
 
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Star Wars fans:
News this morning that Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run is moving to FP+ at Hollywood Studios 2/19, I think it’s safe to assume that a change is coming at Disneyland shortly as well, as the ride is actually less popular here.
I don’t think it’s necessarily less popular it’s just competing with several other headliner attractions for crowds at rope drop.
 
That's my point. With RSR, you still had the opportunity to wait in a 2 or more hour standby line. You did not have to be in the park prior to opening, then get lucky in making it into a boarding group, and then possibly wait up to 12 or 13 hours until your group gets called. You can't roll up to the park at Noon, and get in a standby line, be it 2 hours, 4 hours or 10 hours.

None of that is mentioned in the advertising for the new ride. Not everyone is looking at all the tips on message boards, and they are being given a false impression of what it takes to even have a chance at riding, and the longer that goes on, the more it makes it look like Disney just couldn't care less. Which is not really a surprise, they're all about getting $$$ from unsuspecting guests.

I would encourage park guests or future park guests who are upset with the current boarding group method to consider contacting Disney directly in order to voice their concerns. Call Disneyland. Send them an email. Do both. If boarding groups are still underway for ROTR the next time you go to DL, stop at City Hall and provide some in person feedback as well.

With everything these days as a consumer, you have to go into things with a little "Buyer Beware!" Consider this example as food for thought. Last year, a chain of movie theaters in our area switched over to the "reserve a specific seat ahead of time" method instead of the previous seating configuration in which it was every man, woman, and child for themselves.

With the previous seating assignment method, if you wanted to be sure that you got to sit in a certain part of the movie theater, then you know what you did? You get there early enough to get the seat you want. That's how it was for years. If you show up last minute or late? you get what's left and you don't get upset.

So imagine my surprise when one day, we went to our local movie theater to see a movie and suddenly now you have to actually pick your seats. Only now the only seats that are left have a horrible view (way in front and way off to the side). Oh my gosh, no thanks! Forget it.

I was annoyed. Was I mad at the movie theater? Well, no. I COULD have chosen to be mad at them for their "false advertising" by not putting all sorts of disclaimers in TV, newspaper, and online ads...for not shouting it on the rooftops that their ticketing system had changed. I was irritated that one time. And then I adjusted and we saw the movie another time.

The same applies to this boarding group thing at Disneyland, in my opinion.

Consider, also, how many people go to WDW each year and do zero planning ahead of time. That's fine. It's a free country. In WDW online and TV ads, they do not include all sorts of disclaimers about stuff like:
  • Hey! If you want to eat at a TS restaurant, like Be Our Guest, you better reserve 6 months ahead of time or you're out of luck!
  • Hey, kids! Don't forget to tell Mom & Dad that they can book FP+ 2 months ahead of time!
  • Hiya folks! Don't forget that all of the food & merchandise here is expensive!
  • Don't forget that buses from Art of Animation & Pop Century resorts now only go to HS & Epcot once an hour when the Skyliner is running!
Yet every year, thousands of people travel to WDW thinking they've got it covered by booking airfare, hotel, and buying their tickets ahead of time. Thousands of people go to DL & WDW thinking that FP is something you have to pay for. None of THAT is in the advertising either. Neither is the boarding group info.

Heck, some people don't even know there's a smart phone app you can use to check wait times.

Google and Yahoo are everyone's friends and all it takes is a simple online search on just about any electronic device for ANY park guest to do <5 min of research ahead of time to find out a TEENY bit of info about ROTR boarding groups...which would increase their odds of getting a boarding group. Disney has made the information available on their website, in Disney Parks Blogs posts, on social media, on the DL & WDW apps, etc.

If a guest chooses to not do any homework ahead of time, that is NOT Disney's problem.
 


That's my point. With RSR, you still had the opportunity to wait in a 2 or more hour standby line. You did not have to be in the park prior to opening, then get lucky in making it into a boarding group, and then possibly wait up to 12 or 13 hours until your group gets called. You can't roll up to the park at Noon, and get in a standby line, be it 2 hours, 4 hours or 10 hours.

None of that is mentioned in the advertising for the new ride. Not everyone is looking at all the tips on message boards, and they are being given a false impression of what it takes to even have a chance at riding, and the longer that goes on, the more it makes it look like Disney just couldn't care less. Which is not really a surprise, they're all about getting $$$ from unsuspecting guests.

Yes there was still the standby line for RSR, and some people had to have seen that as an option or else there wouldnt have been a line at all otherwise. Other people or families though may have seen a line that long as not an option and therefore scoring a FP was the only way they were going to attempt it.

What I mean with the comparison is that the guests that do the research always have a better experience than the ones that just roll up whenever, expecting everything to be open to everyone. That hasn’t been a sound strategy at any theme park for years now. You can’t please everyone and there will always be people who get left out for one reason or another. That’s why sites like this exist. We share our experience so that others can have the same good time we did.

I personally believe that Disney is putting it out there the best they can. The app clearly puts info on the front page about BGs. Last weekend, they had cast members walking through the lines that were forming prior to opening the gates, passing out pamphlets with the process for acquiring a BG to everyone, setting expectations for how fast they were running out, and answering any other questions the best they could. The moment BGs were filled up, signs were placed all over the park letting guests know there were no more BGs avaliable. The information is out there. Guests just need to do the work of getting informed.
 
My granddaughter was a thrill seeker, any ride, any time, each new ride was "Best ride ever"...She rode BTMRR and Space Mountain at 2.5 years. At 4.5 she was on Screamin'. My grandson on the other hand is 4. He announced mid ride on BTMRR "This was a bad decision".... Rides are too fast. He is a strange child as he loves Goofy's Sky Skool, and the swings, and hates Space and BTMRR. He tolerates MFSR. We managed to get him on Star Tours by saying it is a show. He kind of liked it. So, we will be using "It's a show" for ROTR.

40 inches tall at 2.5 years old?? That is one massive 2 year old.
 
40 inches tall at 2.5 years old?? That is one massive 2 year old.

It's tall, but not massive. My younger son was 40" right at 3. He has leveled off and is now in the 50th percentile for height as a teen. My older son is a shorty and even he was riding Matterhorn at 2 because it used to have a 35" height requirement.
 


Star Wars fans:
News this morning that Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run is moving to FP+ at Hollywood Studios 2/19, I think it’s safe to assume that a change is coming at Disneyland shortly as well, as the ride is actually less popular here.

This is an interesting turn of events.

However, will FP+ START that day, or is that the day you can begin making FP+ advanced reservations (so the service will actually start March 19)?
 
This is an interesting turn of events.

However, will FP+ START that day, or is that the day you can begin making FP+ advanced reservations (so the service will actually start March 19)?
It’s live in the system on the 19th.

WDW guests are Modifying their FPs and holding FPs to ride MFSR on the 19th as their Tier 1.
 
I don’t think it’s necessarily less popular it’s just competing with several other headliner attractions for crowds at rope drop.

So yes, relatively speaking, it is less popular at Disneyland compared to its status at DHS.
 
This is an interesting turn of events.

However, will FP+ START that day, or is that the day you can begin making FP+ advanced reservations (so the service will actually start March 19)?
I just modified my FP+ for mid-March. What I saw was many guests swapping Slinky Dog for Smugglers. Snagged Slinky Dog FP+ that were not there prior to today.
 
Got to the esplanade right around 8. The security lines and turnstiles moved quickly. Currently waiting at rope drop to head over to SR. Keeping our fingers crossed we’ll be able to grab a guaranteed boarding group today!
Im rooting for you! Let us know how it goes! MTFBWY
 
"Join Boarding Group" disabled after a minute or so today.

Clearly yesterday was buggy.
 
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