In the report I saw, the prosecutor said he is pleading guilty, not taking a plea deal. She said he might get probation, not that he was getting probation. That is his lawyer‘s statement, not the prosecutor’s. I don’t think probation is a certainty. I have no problem with jail time. He caused the death of a child in his care. Why should he NOT get jail??
Same as when someone forgets an infant in the car & the child dies. I don’t care how busy you are, how out of your routine. A child DIES because an adult “forgot” or was careless.... how does that NOT call for jail time??? I don’t care how much the parent or grandfather is grieving. The child is DEAD!!! The child doesn’t get to live their life..... The grandfather has to live with it for the rest of his life???? At least he HAS the rest of his life. Not like that poor child.
And what exactly does sending him to jail do that losing his granddaughter hasn’t done?
Jail time is supposed to be rehabilitation and/or punishment.
You answered your own question....Punishment. If you take a life, why should you NOT be punished?? So anyone who kills another person just goes to court & says... “I’m sorry, I’m really punishing myself over this“...... So they don’t get jail time either???
I disagree that jail time is pointless.
You answered your own question....Punishment. If you take a life, why should you NOT be punished?? So anyone who kills another person just goes to court & says... “I’m sorry, I’m really punishing myself over this“...... So they don’t get jail time either???
I disagree that jail time is pointless.
Do you honestly think that this man deserves more punishment than what he is already going through?
Of course not anyone, that is a ridiculous statement. Do you think he intentionally killed this child?
What I think is that child deserved to LIVE HER LIFE. And I have NO problem with jail time for the person who took it from her. It wasn’t an accident... it was negligence.
You’re looking out for the grandfather...I’m looking out for the DEAD CHILD.
"Wiegand's family has sued the cruise ship company, accusing it of negligence by allowing the window in the ship's children's play area to be open."
Once again, they accept the parents' lawyers wording that it was a children's play area. Making it sound like the child could have just stumbled out of the window on her own.
Not agreeing with their law suit or any of the sort but, these are two different cases here. The lawsuit is the parents vs the cruise line. The criminal case was the grandfather. Same family but not the same. I imagine the lawsuit only names the parents not the grandfather. So its possible that their attorney will be trying to prove that while the grandfather was negligent (because he did plead guilty), the cruise line ALSO holds responsibility due to not making it clear to all passengers that the windows were open.
I sincerely hope that you or your family never experiences a terrible mistake like this or forgetting a child in a hot car.In the report I saw, the prosecutor said he is pleading guilty, not taking a plea deal. She said he might get probation, not that he was getting probation. That is his lawyer‘s statement, not the prosecutor’s. I don’t think probation is a certainty. I have no problem with jail time. He caused the death of a child in his care. Why should he NOT get jail??
Same as when someone forgets an infant in the car & the child dies. I don’t care how busy you are, how out of your routine. A child DIES because an adult “forgot” or was careless.... how does that NOT call for jail time??? I don’t care how much the parent or grandfather is grieving. The child is DEAD!!! The child doesn’t get to live their life..... The grandfather has to live with it for the rest of his life???? At least he HAS the rest of his life. Not like that poor child.
What I think is that child deserved to LIVE HER LIFE. And I have NO problem with jail time for the person who took it from her. It wasn’t an accident... it was negligence.
You’re looking out for the grandfather...I’m looking out for the DEAD CHILD.
Yes he was negligent. But it still wasn’t intentional.
We're talking about a tragic lapse of common sense, not something people are trying to find a way to get away with
I totally agree with you, but none of what you say really explains how a jail sentence helps in any way, shape, or form, which is what the people you quoted were talking about.and yet he constructs with his legal team a plea that precludes him from disclosing/admitting any facts pertaining to the circumstances of this tragedy.
unfortunately and tragically- i know someone who through an entirely unintentional, accidental and unavoidable event caused the death of a grandchild. it was a horrendous event, and while there was never in any way any consideration on the part of law enforcement to prosecute-the grandparents were and to their deaths were overly forthcoming about every aspect of what occurred, in part by way of processing grief -but in bigger part by way of trying to provide public awareness to others to be overly cautious and prevent the rare circumstance that took the life of their grandchild.
taking a plea that in essence puts a gag order on what occurred-that's an orchestration for the civil lawsuit to proceed (imho).
Totally disagree.While I don't think he dropped her on purpose, I do not believe he has blocked anything from his mind. He's a dry crier. One of those people who act like they are crying, but can't muster up an actual tear. Liars do that.
I think he's well aware of exactly what he did, but jumped on the shady lawyer's version of events in an attempt to cover up his supreme negligence and not be shunned by his entire family....and maybe by the entire world. Who would want to admit they had acted as he did, especially when a toddler paid the price for his careless actions? His brain knows what he did, but his mouth is covering his rear.
I totally agree with you, but none of what you say really explains how a jail sentence helps in any way, shape, or form, which is what the people you quoted were talking about.
We can agree to disagree. He’s the only one who knows for sure, but nothing has caused me to believe a word out of his mouth. I believe he knows what he did, but is looking for anything/anyone to shift the blame to, rather than himself. What he did is completely indefensible and he is in self-preservation mode. He stands to lose everyone.Totally disagree.
We can agree to disagree. He’s the only one who knows for sure, but nothing has caused me to believe a word out of his mouth. I believe he knows what he did, but is looking for anything/anyone to shift the blame to, rather than himself. What he did is completely indefensible and he is in self-preservation mode. He stands to lose everyone.
Maybe the entire family has latched on to the bogus “didn’t know the window was open” story because facing the fact that a loved one’s negligence killed your child is too much to deal with. How does that NOT blow up your family? Does grandma stick by her negligent husband or does she divorce him? If she sticks by him, do Chloe’s parents wash their hands of her or not? I know that if a relative of mine had done what he did, they would be dead to me. That’s not tough talk, but me saying I would never want to see their face again.