News Round Up 2020

Brianstl said:
You can't keep collecting unemployment after you are called back from a furlough. You either go back to work or you sit at home and collect nothing.
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I don't understand. If they stay home aren't they considered terminated? As in unemployed? Thus qualifying for unemployment payments?
 
rteetz said:
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ABC Announces Primetime Special “The Disney Family Singalong: Volume II” to Air on Mother’s Day
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While there (I'm sure) some brilliant editing going on behind the scenes, it is amazing what sort of televion/streaming content is being made at home and not in a studio.

Besides the whole movie theater potential shakeup after all this, I wonder if the Television industry will have some sort of shakeup --realizing that the technology is there to not need as many workers to produce a show, or just the reduced demand (even after it returns) of live sporting events, etc.
 
jknezek said:
No. This has always been a red line for theaters. If you don't respect the release schedule, they won't play your movies in their theaters. It's the only leverage theaters have. So when studios say they are going to use direct to streaming more, and cut out theaters, they have no choice but to threaten to retaliate. And the threat can't just be against the small movies, it has to be against the blockbusters where both studios and theaters hope to make their money. So it may seem like cutting off your nose to spite your face, but really it's cutting off your nose because only in having a whole face do you have any value to your partner at all.

The theaters aren't allowed to own productions companies, and production companies aren't allowed to own theaters. Unfortunately the logic behind those laws is based on 1940s and 50s distribution channels. Now that production companies have so many other outlets, many they even own, movie theaters are constantly with their backs to the wall. It's why Disney can demand more and more of ticket revenue from their blockbusters.

This is a very messy time for theaters. I suspect we will see more than AMC going through bankruptcy.
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Yeah it's kinda a give and take here. I was telling some DISers back when Disney and eventually Universal stopped allowing discounted tickets to be used for Disney, Marvel, Lucas Film, Pixar and Universal films many companies stopped buying those discounted tickets. It took way too many films that were being released at that time (which Marvel was a lot of them) out of the equation. At that time it was the production companies making that decision which impacted the theaters. This time it's the theaters.

I get AMC and now Regal's side because you're basically deciding you don't need them much anymore even though this whole coronavirus caused a massive shift in all of our lives but I said to the local DISers too it's a bold move and one that will likely backfire (IMO). You make a good point though it's a threat, one they are following through, but it doesn't mean they can't come to an agreement. That said this pandemic isn't part of a normal spat between them so it's possible it won't be as easy as a sit down and talk thing.
 
OKW Lover said:
I don't understand. If they stay home aren't they considered terminated? As in unemployed? Thus qualifying for unemployment payments?
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If you are offered your job back and refused, you are no longer laid-off/furloughed/fired, now you are refusing to work. You would lose unemployment.
 
The AMC/Universal spat: First, I think this will get resolved in some manner, and, while AMC and Regal appear committed to it, they will likely use it as a hard stance to renegotiate terms with Universal to show their movies.

Second, this could also hurt Universal. Trolls World Tour could have just been the perfect storm situation for the $20 rental to work - an established franchise, early stages of the quarantine, etc. It's also not even clear how "successful" it really was for Universal. The figures have ranged from $70+ million to $100 million. That apparently is still not break-even for that movie yet.

Bill Simmons had producer Jason Blum on his podcast a few weeks ago, who runs the production company Blumhouse Productions - whose movie The Hunt also was doing the straight to VOD model because of this. He was talking about one of the things they would be looking to see with this model is how much they lose from the regular rental stream that normally exists. Normally, you have the theater revenue. Then when it's first released for rental you have another wave of income from people renting it, along with people purchasing, prior to it then going to a streaming service, etc. There are thoughts that doing it this way could be combining those into one and they may lose a good portion of that regular rental revenue, so they're not sure the viability of this model in all instances.
 
Anthony Vito said:
The AMC/Universal spat: First, I think this will get resolved in some manner, and, while AMC and Regal appear committed to it, they will likely use it as a hard stance to renegotiate terms with Universal to show their movies.

Second, this could also hurt Universal. Trolls World Tour could have just been the perfect storm situation for the $20 rental to work - an established franchise, early stages of the quarantine, etc. It's also not even clear how "successful" it really was for Universal. The figures have ranged from $70+ million to $100 million. That apparently is still not break-even for that movie yet.

Bill Simmons had producer Jason Blum on his podcast a few weeks ago, who runs the production company Blumhouse Productions - whose movie The Hunt also was doing the straight to VOD model because of this. He was talking about one of the things they would be looking to see with this model is how much they lose from the regular rental stream that normally exists. Normally, you have the theater revenue. Then when it's first released for rental you have another wave of income from people renting it, along with people purchasing, prior to it then going to a streaming service, etc. There are thoughts that doing it this way could be combining those into one and they may lose a good portion of that regular rental revenue, so they're not sure the viability of this model in all instances.
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If I can figure out how to stop buffering (was a huge issue on my Roku and Samsung TV I would definitely do movies like this from now on. My wife and I like to watch movies with subtitles. My kids do better when we can pause and they can go to the bathroom.
 
Mackenzie Click-Mickelson said:
Yeah it's kinda a give and take here. I was telling some DISers back when Disney and eventually Universal stopped allowing discounted tickets to be used for Disney, Marvel, Lucas Film, Pixar and Universal films many companies stopped buying those discounted tickets. It took way too many films that were being released at that time (which Marvel was a lot of them) out of the equation. At that time it was the production companies making that decision which impacted the theaters. This time it's the theaters.

I get AMC and now Regal's side because you're basically deciding you don't need them much anymore even though this whole coronavirus caused a massive shift in all of our lives but I said to the local DISers too it's a bold move and one that will likely backfire (IMO). You make a good point though it's a threat, one they are following through, but it doesn't mean they can't come to an agreement. That said this pandemic isn't part of a normal spat between them so it's possible it won't be as easy as a sit down and talk thing.
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I can't see the theatres being able to hold this. Interesting that they're giving Disney/Pixar a pass (Onward). Essentially, they pulled the same stunt Universal did. The difference here is that Disney owns something like 80% or better of all the blockbusters in the pipeline -- certain death for theaters that that don't show their movies. When the next Spiderman arrives, let's see if they refuse that.
 
Tiki Birdland said:
I can't see the theatres being able to hold this. Interesting that they're giving Disney/Pixar a pass (Onward). Essentially, they pulled the same stunt Universal did. The difference here is that Disney owns something like 80% or better of all the blockbusters in the pipeline -- certain death for theaters that that don't show their movies. When the next Spiderman arrives, let's see if they refuse that.
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Onward wasn’t an issue for them because it opened in theaters and didn’t move to VOD until theaters couldn’t show it.
 
Tiki Birdland said:
Trolls was announced for theaters. But, got pulled due to the lockdown. I think it still applies
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Trolls never opened in the theaters. There were several other movies besides Onward that had opened that didn’t complete their theater exclusive window that NATO was fine with them going to VOD at the time because because they opened first in theaters just like Onward. The other studios attempted to fulfill their part of the deal by opening them in theaters and by moving the dates of other releases to still open in theaters. Universal did not do the same.
 
Tiki Birdland said:
I can't see the theatres being able to hold this. Interesting that they're giving Disney/Pixar a pass (Onward). Essentially, they pulled the same stunt Universal did. The difference here is that Disney owns something like 80% or better of all the blockbusters in the pipeline -- certain death for theaters that that don't show their movies. When the next Spiderman arrives, let's see if they refuse that.
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I think the issue was less then doing that this time and more the statement from the head of Universal that they would start doing this regularly going forward.
 
Brianstl said:
Because there will be much more work that has to be done than before the shutdown. They will need people to wipe down ride surfaces, wipe down counters, wipe down railings, clean bathrooms , restock sanitizer stations and to keep people from gathering in groups all on a constant basis. A empty hand sanitizing station is not an inconvenience for guests anymore, it is now a health standard violation that if it happens enough could get them shut down or delay them from moving onto phase 2. The same goes for the other things I mentioned earlier. Those things take man power that you can not achieve with staffing at 50%.
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I agree!

I compare this to my grocery shopping. What used to take me 30 mins to unpack and put away now takes 2 hours! I can only imagine the amount of time and effort it will take to keep Disney ‘safer’ with its many, many touch points.
 
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