Cruising Engineer
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2018
We're all in and looking forward to our Sept 2020 cruise.
Well said. Pause the world “until a vaccine” as so many want to do, then what happens when COVID22 or 23 or 24 happens? Shut down for another year? This shutdown is bankrupting us, only an economic fool can’t see it’s not sustainable.Although Disney can park their ships longer than most cruise lines due to their other sources of revenue, at what point does it become detrimental to the company? The other cruise lines will start back up and if DCL just sits idle because they can, it will destroy the loyalty they have built up. Many of us have our hopes and money tied up in future DCL cruises. If they just park their ships because they don't need to start up because cruising is such a small part of their company's overall revenue, then you get tens or hundreds of thousands of DCL cruisers who get their cruises cancelled and their hopes and dreams shattered. Not only do you get paid and booked DCL cruisers who will be let down, you then get to watch those formerly paid and booked DCL cruisers go to other cruise lines because they have no other choice.
My family and I are platinum DCL cruisers and have never cruised with another cruise line. I do not even consider another cruise line because I truly believe DCL is the best. If DCL cancels our upcoming cruise while the other cruise lines resume cruising, we will have no choice but to try other cruise lines. I would like to stay with DCL but if they refuse to cruise while the other cruise lines operate, what can you do? So if I were DCL, why would I want to just sit and watch hundreds of thousands of loyal DCL cruisers go try other brands and risk the fact that a percentage might actually enjoy certain aspects of the other brands and start spending their money elsewhere? Plus, DCL waiting until the last minute to cancel cruises that they have known for months were not going out, that just leaves a bad taste.
We are all well aware of COVID and are all aware of the risks involved. Let us sign a waiver that we wont sue and let's get on with cruising. You can get on a 3 day Greyhound bus from NYC to LA, so why can we not get on a 3 day DCL out of PC? If there are those that want to wait for a vaccine, then they don't have to book a cruise until next year, next decade, next century or whenever the hypothetical vaccine comes into existence. We cannot pause the world waiting on vaccines that may or may not ever come.
(They stacked bodies in refrigerated trucks instead of the hallways...)
Apologies for not seeing this virus with rose-colored glasses... In my province, the flu kills more or less 300 each year. COVID killed over 5000 within three months.
The best thing for us is a vaccine.
What accusations were made? I was on the cruise, and know Disney did everything possible to keep the virus at bay, but we still ended up getting it - even with endless hand washing. The reality was that a very contagious virus was spreading everywhere.I suppose that I'm viewing this all from DCL's viewpoint, they KNOW that many many many loyal Disney Cruise guests anxious, eager and panting to return to cruising, but on the whole I think they're seeing this all from the long range aspect. Sure they would love to get guests back on board as soon as possible, but after the suspect accusations made resulting from the 2020 WBPC trip that were leveled by an attorney that was purely seeking financial gain for himself and any "clients" he could sign up, I'm sure DCL is being very cautious and willing to be very certain that it will be utterly and completely safe for families to come back on board, as well as protecting one of their most valuable resources, the crews! I don't think they're willing to risk any more bad publicity or accusations against the company or the ships, which we all know consistently get stellar ratings on cleanliness and hygiene from various publications and websites, so I believe that they feel that they can wait until they're absolutely certain they are going to be able to welcome guests on board with no worries and that everyone will be able to experience the Disney "magic" that they're famous for. Sure it might take a bit longer, but I think that it will well be worth waiting until DCL feels that we can resume cruising with the Mouse, step onboard and leave all our worries on shore.
AIDS is 100% fatal (with the exception of Magic Johnson). Do we quarantine AIDS patients? The sky is not falling and we’re not all going to die. Actually it’s the opposite.
Ditto. We are in the medical profession. We definitely won't be the first in line for a brand spankin' new vaccine... (and I totally love vaccines).Not worth it to us. Our next cruise is 6/2021 to Alaska and DH already wants to cancel.
Even if there is a vaccine before then, I don’t want to be in the early waves of trying it out. We are super healthy but would prefer to stay that way.
Not at all. I am growing increasingly optimistic for an effective vaccine being approved by the end of the year and available in the early part of the new year. I am also hopeful that one of the many promising pharmaceutical treatments breaks through. Furthermore, I am hopeful that the virus runs its course and mostly peters out by region over the next several months, as some scientists are predicting and as we are seeing in many areas of the world. For whatever reason, death rates are certainly falling in many areas, even areas where infection rates are still increasing. I am seeing more and more to be optimistic about in the next 3-6 month time frame.
Regardless of whether any of the above happens, I have zero doubt that we are, and will, learn to return to normal, where we accept the risk of the virus and go on with life. Check out video from Paris and other parts of Europe. Many cities are already doing that and life looks more or less normal. I am seeing it in Utah too. We are close to operating pre-pandemic, despite rising cases. Humanity is/will decide to move on, despite the very sad loss of life when we do. Sure, if you are in a high-risk group, it may not be an option for you. But even there, I know people who have accepted the risk and want to live life to the fullest now. We plan to cruise next March and June, so long as Disney is sailing, and I think that is almost a certainty now.
In case you think this is the 19th iteration of this coronavirus and there is a 20th coming--- COVID19 was named for the year 2019. There were not Covid1-18 preceding it.The COVID-19 vaccine should work just long enough until COVID-20 comes along, just like how ineffective the flu vaccine is.
In case you think this is the 19th iteration of this coronavirus and there is a 20th coming--- COVID19 was named for the year 2019. There were not Covid1-18 preceding it.
Please stop spouting off incorrect assumptions about this disease.
I don't mind at all. Because we were PIF, we did "lose" our deposit, however we had purchased DCL insurance, so if we file a claim with the insurance, we can receive 75% of our deposit in the form of a cruise credit good for one year. We have not pursued this option just yet, in case Disney does cancel the sailing. If they cancel the sailing we will be refunded the deposit. According to my brother who was sailing with us, he did not see anything about a time limit for pursuing a claim, so we are going to hold tight for another month or two. I hope that is somewhat helpful; I'm totally green when it comes to cruising so it's possible a veteran might have other helpful info.
We're all in and looking forward to our Sept 2020 cruise.
We're all in and looking forward to our Sept 2020 cruise.
us too! It’ll be our first Disney Cruise (and my sister’s first cruise ever!)
us too! It’ll be our first Disney Cruise (and my sister’s first cruise ever!)
The death stats per year for flu and pneumonia onset from flu is in the thousands per year in the Quebec Province. From what I can see there is little middle ground and you're either in the camp of let's put everybody into unemployment poverty lockdown or you're in the camp of live your life understanding there is bad things in life and you cannot go around living in fear. I hear malaria is deadly, does that mean everyone in Africa locks themselves indoors? No, they do not. If anyone wants to personal message me via this board I would be more than happy to do the back and forth further off thread but I doubt anything will change minds so we can all agree to disagree rather that hijack this thread any further. People die and people will continue to die and although it is sad, almost everybody who gets COVID will not die. If people are not comfortable with cruising, then don't cruise and wait for your vaccine. The COVID-19 vaccine should work just long enough until COVID-20 comes along, just like how ineffective the flu vaccine is.