Agreed. I cancelled our August trip and am unsure about our Christmas trip. For me, a huge part of the fun of Disney trips is the planning and thinking about it. It feels like that has all gone out the window now.Well for about a month I was feeling pretty good about our December trip. Now I’m back to feeling very unsure. I just hate how it seems like it’ll be a last minute decision if we go or not.
It's funny because we have been together, in this house, for so long now, and he still wants to be near me all the time. I need a break, introvert by nature I just want everyone to leave me alone for a day! Vacation doesn't really allow for that but it's not me having to cook and clean and entertain all day long.
Everything you said plus I read that the vaccination has picked up pace again in all the US states last couple of weeks, double and even triple in some cases. I also read what you said that many experts believe the US will follow the UK pattern. Let’s hope.Of course you're right. My point is those numbers - hospitalizations and deaths - are at this point the only ones that really matter. And it is clear that here, in the US and places like the UK with similar vaccine uptake the "death rate" has broken away from the "case rate" - as a result of the vast majority of vulnerable people getting vaccinated. In the UK they were averaging about 50,000 cases and 1,000 deaths a day at the beginning of the year. If you look at the graphs starting in Wave Two (in Wave One testing was not yet widely rolled out, so deaths were very disproportionate), deaths and cases actually track very close to each other, with not much of a lag. Until vaccines. In wave three deaths stayed down, and in the recent UK "Delta wave" cases were again up well past 40,000 a day - but daily deaths topped 100 only once, about a week ago - and have already begun to fall.
We also know that nearly everyone being infected and getting sick are those that have refused the vaccines. The tiny tiny percentage of those who get significantly ill from breakthrough cases are overwhelmingly elderly with comorbidities.
Something else to keep an eye on is the history of the Delta wave in other countries. In the UK it lasted six weeks, in India, seven. In fact, daily cases in the UK are almost half of what they were just two weeks ago (they starting dropping the day AFTER the country opened up completely, and have been declining since). Now, past history is not a guarantee of future events, but if the US follows a similar pattern things should peak in mid-August and start to fall rapidly after that.
Again, maybe things in the US will completely fall apart, but I sure hope not ...
I wouldn’t get ahead just yet - those of us with August/September trips - did we foresee this happen even just a month ago? Nope. This happened super quickly and can and probably will once again change by December. Now - it’s entirely possible at that point it will be Canada in trouble again and Florida fine but really the point I’m trying to make - too early to tell for December. IMOI'm scheduled to go early December and it's not looking good. I'm fully vaxxed, but I cannot risk getting stuck down in florida for two weeks because I come up positive. That alone is enough reason for me to cancel
Oh no - your December flight?WestJet just cancelled my flights. I'm not rebooking at $800 a ticket. Guess that's that
Oh no - your December flight?
I spent 5 hours on the phone with Jetblue to reschedule my Dec. trip. They changed it on me. Two phone calls later, I think it's all set now. Because they rescheduled it didn't cost anything to change it. Still going, unless things get much worse. I have until Nov. to cancel.Yup. Looks like they are cutting the direct service from YVR. I could have done a schedule change but it was going to cut into my time too much. It was only a 3 night trip
I am somewhat with you on that one. If what happened in the country of origin for Delta holds true, the virus/variant does have a tendency to "burn through" a population until a certain level of immunity is reached (either through vaccination or naturally, or both). Using that country of origin data, Florida could be back to "normal" in a couple of weeksI wouldn’t get ahead just yet - those of us with August/September trips - did we foresee this happen even just a month ago? Nope. This happened super quickly and can and probably will once again change by December. Now - it’s entirely possible at that point it will be Canada in trouble again and Florida fine but really the point I’m trying to make - too early to tell for December. IMO
I read that many experts expect the US to peak later in august and start dropping again, like the UK. Especially since the vaccination rates have started to climb up again in the US. They finally reached 70% with first dose and it’s climbing.
Agreed. Simple and it puts faith behind the vaccines.They really just need to say no travel unless vaccinated, no testing needed. Even without vaccination the risk from covid is so low. All the fear mongering is really losing sight of that. Especially for young people. With the vaccine even more so. Here is the data complied from the last few weeks