D.O.C.'s = Dis'ers of Color (Disney Fans of Color)

[sweetpeama]

Hello everyone,
I hope sharing lessons about the subtleties of race will not cause everyone here to experience A case of “ABS” Ally Burnout syndrome.
I am sharing a link to an article on CNN, regarding the
The words and phrases permeate nearly every aspect of our society.
"Master bedrooms" in our homes. "Blacklists" and "whitelists" in computing. The idiom "sold down the river" in our everyday speech.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/us/racism-words-phrases-slavery-trnd/index.html

For quite a while at least in my area I have seen master bedroom called the owner's suite sometimes spelled owners' to reference more than one owner as in a person and a spouse or significant other. If this room er suite is one consisting of a sleeping room or bedroom, a sitting room off it that is sometimes accessed from the hallway as well, an attatched bathroom or sometimes a split style bath, and two huge walk in closets then they almost always use the term owner's suite. I think to myself often when I see and read this just add a little kitchenette in that sitting room and you've got an apartment that is bigger than the house I lived in when first married and later with my spouse and 2 children.

One of my favorite singers growing up and one of the first concerts I got to go to was Charley Pride that was not one of my older cousins playing in the school band, choir, or orchestra concert) I was surprised to come across this article about him recently. https://www.montanasports.com/sport...egend-charley-pride-still-a-montanan-at-heart

 

[kylenne]

Walt Disney World Resort for October 1, 2021

Who in the DOC's group has confirmed plans to visit The Walt Disney World Resort, Orlando, FL on October 1, 2021, for the Magic Kingdom 50th Anniversary celebration?

I booked a few nights at the Hilton Orlando Buena Vista Palace Disney Springs Area.
I am hoping to get a reservation at DVC instead. AKL - Jambo House or BLTower.

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What is it with pink castles?

Just catching up on the thread after a busy weekend of gaming. We also booked the Contemporary for the anniversary weekend (9/30 - 10/3), staying CL. We tried to get TPV but it was already sold out so we got Lake View. My thinking was twofold: ease of getting to and from MK on what’s likely to be a nutty day crowd wise and also never having stayed at CR before, we wanted to be in one of the original 2 resorts on such a special occasion. Staying CL as well if there’s any kind of special events going on I figured we might get a leg up or something, like they do at the Poly on July 4th with the reserved seating on the beach. We were able to book through our TA a day or so after room only for that timeframe became available but before Disney shut new bookings down.

Also...I really don’t want to acknowledge the attempt at derailing this thread, but once again I’m floored by how every time someone approaches spaces like these in bad faith tries to invent an “outrageous” diversity strawman they inevitably are describing me. Yes, Virginia, queer, disabled black women exist. I’m one of them and know many more. But it just underlines how invisible people like me are to larger society, that some can’t conceive of my existence as anything more than an impossible joke. It’s hurtful no matter how many times I see it. A little empathy goes a long way.

Kimberlé Crenshaw is a black woman and a scholar who coined the term intersectionality specifically to describe the way in which different kinds of oppression—anti-Black racism and sexism—“intersect” to create unique challenges for black women that require unique discussions and solutions that aren’t achieved by focusing solely on racism or sexism. Many other marginalized groups have expanded this concept to include lots of intersections, disability, sexual orientation, etc. It’s something important to think about.

 

[sara_s]

I sincerely hope that Kaepernick ends up being the hero of this whole story. How fitting that would be.

I said to myself this morning after reading this: "YES Kap, go get that Disney money."

And I know it's not about the money, but at least he gets something out of this mess. He became the scapegoat and had his livelihood stripped from him. But he never lost focus - a hero if you ask me!

Looking forward to this docuseries!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

another angle related to the lighter skin tones discussed a bit ago - companies would also sell products for lightening skin.

Specific case is Solly and Abe Krok who developed and sold a cream in South Africa and made a fortune off of it ... they then went into real estate and built Gold Reef City which sits on an old gold mine and includes a casino and theme park among other things. Interestingly the theme park has a famous (infamous?) ride call the Tower of Terror, no relation to the Disney ride.

As part of the proposal to build a casino there they proposed to build an Apartheid museum - which has apparently been well received (though obviously doesn't make up for building a fortune on a carcenagenic product the pushed the concept that "white = beautiful, black = ugly")

 

[PlutosRHM55]

Hello! I just wanted to jump in to say I'm so glad a thread like this has popped up and I'm 1000% supportive in all ways possible of a POC forum on the DIS. Like has been said we have one for the LGBTQ+ community as well as for the disabled or differently abled community. I think one to address diversity in terms of people of color, especially for BIPOC, is overdue and necessary for these boards to continue to be an inclusive place.

There's a lot of conversations happening, it's hard to keep track, but I wanted to input this specifically for my fellow white individuals, specifically those asking a lot of questions of the POC in this forum without doing their own research: Being able to ask these questions and get answers in that way is a privilege.

I'm gonna be upfront and say a lot of this you can look up on Google yourself if you are so curious. It's not super difficult. Many people have dedicated their lives to these types of discussions and concepts. The resources are endless and in this day and age, the internet makes it so easy to find them. It's so wonderful we have created a place to start putting all those resources together into one convenient place, but know it still puts a heavy burden on POC. Their job shouldn't be to educate everyone on everything regarding their history, you can also put in some effort especially since it's just as much your history as theirs.

Which begs the question of why certain aspects of these discussions, that seem critical aspects of human history, were never taught in schools? In reality, I think we all know the answer and it's a scary answer that pushes us to really reflect and reevaluate the world around us.

Apologies if I'm getting too broad on a Disney site and might be overstepping or stepping on good healthy discussion. Please let me know if this is too much. It's a learning process for everyone and as much as Google is there, some things can only be learned by trial-and-error. We are always continuing to learn and grow.

 

[TummyGirl]

Hey @TummyGirl ,
Has anyone noticed if you mention anything related to race or dare mention “BLM”, White friends get nervous or make accusations of race politic? This stems from the fact many people are so uncomfortable discussing race/color they are looking to turn the conversation back on you?

Hey @AKL Ranger, I apologize for not responding earlier, I'm still getting used to actually actively participating in a forum!

I definitely believe that when I have brought up BLM and the protests and the killings with white friends, some are uncomfortable. I've been having difficult conversations with friends since college and the people that I've remained friends with all share similar views as I do so I feel like I can bridge that discomfort and talk about race because ultimately we care for each other and just want to see each other happy. That being said, I've learned some tough lessons lately-mainly that I just may not be one of those people who can have close friends where we don't talk about certain things like politics ( and I'm dumping a lot in the "politic" label for the sake of time here). I've been told numerous times that sometimes I should just let things go and not bring up my views with certain friends to avoid confrontation-like I had a friend and we bonded over many things (horror movies a biggie!) but with the 2016 election our views were revealed to be very different. I continued to remain friends with her through many arguments and talks with others who would tell me a friendship is worth more than who someone voted for. Yet, in the last few weeks we have stopped speaking as a direct result of our views. I expressed my hurt and fear as a friend to her and she did not respond in kind as an ally or even as a friend and that was a hurtful wake-up call. I've come to realize, for me, a friend's beliefs are very integral to who they are and if I can't be honest in the friendship ( and I opened the floor for her to do the same) then why are we even friends? I understand having casual friends but as for close friends? We have to be able to navigate the uncomfortable and "not fun" stuff as well.

I hope that didn't delve too much into politics but in order to explain I had to bring that up.

Ummmm Dis related? Watched Hamilton with my boyfriend and then with my parents- my boyfriend just likes to brag that he saw the OC on Broadway and my parents were mesmerized that the guy from some show named "Bull" had the singing chops as Washington. <----can we change the skin shade of these on here?? If so, could someone let me know how???

I'm just now reading up on the Hamilton criticism which I didn't delve into back in 2016ish- Reading up on "the Haunting of LMM" thanks to @kylenne !! And I believe there is a book of collected essays by a bunch of historians as well that address the inaccuracies or just what as left out of the production. Anyone know about that?

There's a lot of conversations happening, it's hard to keep track, but I wanted to input this specifically for my fellow white individuals, specifically those asking a lot of questions of the POC in this forum without doing their own research: Being able to ask these questions and get answers in that way is a privilege.

I'm gonna be upfront and say a lot of this you can look up on Google yourself if you are so curious. It's not super difficult. Many people have dedicated their lives to these types of discussions and concepts. The resources are endless and in this day and age, the internet makes it so easy to find them. It's so wonderful we have created a place to start putting all those resources together into one convenient place, but know it still puts a heavy burden on POC. Their job shouldn't be to educate everyone on everything regarding their history, you can also put in some effort especially since it's just as much your history as theirs.

Sorry for the double post/quick edit but I just wanted to thank you for this. This is something I want in "real" life as well. I don't mind speaking of my own experiences but I do wish that more people in my personal life took more of an initiative. You don't have to be a history buff to be curious about the whole, true story of this country.

 

[disneysteve]

There's a lot of conversations happening, it's hard to keep track, but I wanted to input this specifically for my fellow white individuals, specifically those asking a lot of questions of the POC in this forum without doing their own research: Being able to ask these questions and get answers in that way is a privilege.

I'm gonna be upfront and say a lot of this you can look up on Google yourself if you are so curious. It's not super difficult.

Their job shouldn't be to educate everyone on everything regarding their history, you can also put in some effort especially since it's just as much your history as theirs.

I think you make a valid point, but I'd also say that I'd much rather learn certain things by speaking with another person directly rather than doing a Google search. There's value to both.

For example, earlier in the thread someone mentioned the trouble with the term 'nitty gritty'. I had no idea what that referred to so I looked it up, just as you suggest. Now I know. But hearing how the folks here feel about Hamilton wasn't really a Google sort of question, so I posed it here. I hope nobody was bothered by me asking.

I am white, with all of the privilege that comes with that, but I'm also a minority being Jewish (about 2% of the US population as compared to about 13% for African Americans). Obviously, the two are entirely different since race is readily apparent while religion isn't so I in no way mean to compare the experience of being Jewish to being Black. But that doesn't mean I haven't experienced prejudice and sometimes ignorance as a result of my minority status. And while it isn't my "job" to educate people about Judaism, it's definitely something I've done many many times throughout my life. I'd much rather have someone ask me a question and initiate a dialogue than for them to continue on believing misinformation or stereotype stuff. Sure they could Google the info, but I'd rather have them strike up a conversation and know that they feel comfortable enough to ask me and learn from my experiences. I hope that makes sense.

 

[disneysteve]

my parents were mesmerized that the guy from some show named "Bull" had the singing chops as Washington.

Not at all related to race, and weird coming from me, a lifelong theater fan, but still I am occasionally shocked to find out someone on some sitcom or other TV show is a brilliant singer when that isn't how I know them.

Best example? I was introduced to Betty Buckley as the step mom on Eight is Enough. Sometime later I heard something about her being on Broadway and was like, "Can she sing?" Little did I know.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

<----can we change the skin shade of these on here??

I think it just depends on which emojis are loaded into your mobile telephone. I have etc. Try holding the emoji that you have and other options should pop up.

 

[TummyGirl]

I think it just depends on which emojis are loaded into your mobile telephone. I have etc. Try holding the emoji that you have and other options should pop up.

Ok thanks! I'm usually posting from my laptop as I'm "working."

 

[kylenne]

Ok thanks! I'm usually posting from my laptop as I'm "working."

I hear you, I’ve been “working” all day lol

 

[PlutosRHM55]

I think you make a valid point, but I'd also say that I'd much rather learn certain things by speaking with another person directly rather than doing a Google search. There's value to both.

For example, earlier in the thread someone mentioned the trouble with the term 'nitty gritty'. I had no idea what that referred to so I looked it up, just as you suggest. Now I know. But hearing how the folks here feel about Hamilton wasn't really a Google sort of question, so I posed it here. I hope nobody was bothered by me asking.

I am white, with all of the privilege that comes with that, but I'm also a minority being Jewish (about 2% of the US population as compared to about 13% for African Americans). Obviously, the two are entirely different since race is readily apparent while religion isn't so I in no way mean to compare the experience of being Jewish to being Black. But that doesn't mean I haven't experienced prejudice and sometimes ignorance as a result of my minority status. And while it isn't my "job" to educate people about Judaism, it's definitely something I've done many many times throughout my life. I'd much rather have someone ask me a question and initiate a dialogue than for them to continue on believing misinformation or stereotype stuff. Sure they could Google the info, but I'd rather have them strike up a conversation and know that they feel comfortable enough to ask me and learn from my experiences. I hope that makes sense.

I agree with you on all of that. I'm gay and sometimes my experiences coming directly from me are more impactful than some article that's gonna commodify and objectify the subject. However, certain subjects can get exhausting or may not have personal anecdotes, which definitely is a big brunt of the situation with BIPOC (not all of them have dealt directly with mass incarceration or police brutality for example, but they are major factors in systemic racism). My point about it being a privilege is not to say one can't ask questions, just to encourage stepping back and saying to one's self, "Is this a question I need to ask them or is this something I can do my own education on?" or better yet "Was this question asked before and might already be somewhere else in this thread?" It's about taking your own responsibility and accountability and not putting it upon oppressed individuals to be the ones to do it all for you. It's also to not assume that everyone POC has the same experiences. I hope that makes sense.

 

[Tonyz]

Hello! I just wanted to jump in to say I'm so glad a thread like this has popped up and I'm 1000% supportive in all ways possible of a POC forum on the DIS. Like has been said we have one for the LGBTQ+ community as well as for the disabled or differently abled community. I think one to address diversity in terms of people of color, especially for BIPOC, is overdue and necessary for these boards to continue to be an inclusive place.

There's a lot of conversations happening, it's hard to keep track, but I wanted to input this specifically for my fellow white individuals, specifically those asking a lot of questions of the POC in this forum without doing their own research: Being able to ask these questions and get answers in that way is a privilege.

I'm gonna be upfront and say a lot of this you can look up on Google yourself if you are so curious. It's not super difficult. Many people have dedicated their lives to these types of discussions and concepts. The resources are endless and in this day and age, the internet makes it so easy to find them. It's so wonderful we have created a place to start putting all those resources together into one convenient place, but know it still puts a heavy burden on POC. Their job shouldn't be to educate everyone on everything regarding their history, you can also put in some effort especially since it's just as much your history as theirs.

Which begs the question of why certain aspects of these discussions, that seem critical aspects of human history, were never taught in schools? In reality, I think we all know the answer and it's a scary answer that pushes us to really reflect and reevaluate the world around us.

Apologies if I'm getting too broad on a Disney site and might be overstepping or stepping on good healthy discussion. Please let me know if this is too much. It's a learning process for everyone and as much as Google is there, some things can only be learned by trial-and-error. We are always continuing to learn and grow.

Fantastic post. I have no more patience for white people who say they still "need to learn" and "didn't realize how bad it was." Have you been paying attention for the last 200 years?? It comes from a place of pure willful ignorance. Bill Maher said "Not acknowledging racism is the new racism." and I love that.

There's also that great James Baldwin quote that I love to use for these people who claim they still need to learn:

"You always told me that it's going to take time. It's taken my father's time, my mother's time, my uncle's time, my brothers' and my sisters' time, my nieces and my nephew's time. How much time do you want for your progress?"

 

[Tonyz]

Hey @AKL Ranger, I apologize for not responding earlier, I'm still getting used to actually actively participating in a forum!

I definitely believe that when I have brought up BLM and the protests and the killings with white friends, some are uncomfortable. I've been having difficult conversations with friends since college and the people that I've remained friends with all share similar views as I do so I feel like I can bridge that discomfort and talk about race because ultimately we care for each other and just want to see each other happy. That being said, I've learned some tough lessons lately-mainly that I just may not be one of those people who can have close friends where we don't talk about certain things like politics ( and I'm dumping a lot in the "politic" label for the sake of time here). I've been told numerous times that sometimes I should just let things go and not bring up my views with certain friends to avoid confrontation-like I had a friend and we bonded over many things (horror movies a biggie!) but with the 2016 election our views were revealed to be very different. I continued to remain friends with her through many arguments and talks with others who would tell me a friendship is worth more than who someone voted for. Yet, in the last few weeks we have stopped speaking as a direct result of our views. I expressed my hurt and fear as a friend to her and she did not respond in kind as an ally or even as a friend and that was a hurtful wake-up call. I've come to realize, for me, a friend's beliefs are very integral to who they are and if I can't be honest in the friendship ( and I opened the floor for her to do the same) then why are we even friends? I understand having casual friends but as for close friends? We have to be able to navigate the uncomfortable and "not fun" stuff as well.

I hope that didn't delve too much into politics but in order to explain I had to bring that up.

Ummmm Dis related? Watched Hamilton with my boyfriend and then with my parents- my boyfriend just likes to brag that he saw the OC on Broadway and my parents were mesmerized that the guy from some show named "Bull" had the singing chops as Washington. <----can we change the skin shade of these on here?? If so, could someone let me know how???

I'm just now reading up on the Hamilton criticism which I didn't delve into back in 2016ish- Reading up on "the Haunting of LMM" thanks to @kylenne !! And I believe there is a book of collected essays by a bunch of historians as well that address the inaccuracies or just what as left out of the production. Anyone know about that?



Sorry for the double post/quick edit but I just wanted to thank you for this. This is something I want in "real" life as well. I don't mind speaking of my own experiences but I do wish that more people in my personal life took more of an initiative. You don't have to be a history buff to be curious about the whole, true story of this country.

I'm so glad these conversations have started on this board (and major kudos @AKL Ranger for a banging thread!) because so many people that usually don't post have started entering these discussions and have been such a great addition. And @TummyGirl was the very first one I think! I love hearing what you have to say.

I cannot fathom ending a friendship because my friend simply wanted to be treated as an equal and wanted me to acknowledge some tough truths. But there definitely is a strain of racism that is more subtle; one that is lurking under the surface. I see if often, maybe even more so recently, and this is the one I fear much more than idiots waving confederate flags.

And since you brought it up... I gotta ask:

Top 5 horror movies?

 

[AKL Ranger]

It is interesting that in so many cultures and throughout history, pale skin was thought to be highly desirable in females in particular. I am thinking of the Ancient Egyptians and Romans and Far Eastern cultures, such as Chinese or Japanese, with geishas being an extreme example. Even in the U.K., before a ‘suntan’ became fashionable, the ‘fairer sex’ wished to be pale and winsome and avoided sunlight-think of the paintings of Elizabeth I. I think that was from a desire to be seen as ‘society’s elite’ rather than the working classes, so a prejudice based on class rather than race. Or perhaps it was both?
In the U.K. curled hair, particularly ringlets were thought of as desirable, rather than straight hair. My female cousins spent many sleepless nights with their hair in ‘rags’.

To tan like a field hand or set a tanning trend like Coco Chanel.
Prior to the industrial revolution, most societies/ cultures were still agriculturally based. Prior to 1870, wealth meant belonging to the gentry class, or in the USA agricultural wealth meant being a plantation owner.
Having tanned skin as a White person, meant you were a labourer, working out in the sun.
The movie "Gone with the Wind*" when it returns to distribution/streaming will make for an interesting study in systemic racism*.
The dressing for the BBQ scene "Mamme" is dressing Scarlett who keeps lowering the shoulders on her dress, exposing her bare shoulders. Mamme scolds Scarlette about lowering that dress allowing sunlight touching her "beautiful Lilly white skin."




Lady Mary, Downton Abbey, c 1920 -BBC

After the 1920's being a member of the leisure class, meant taking in the sun
meant you had not only money but the true symbol of accomplishment, the luxury of time.
The time to leisurely lay in the sun.


French fashion designer Coco Chanel set many fashion trends, higher hem lengths to ditching corsets and shorter easier bobbed hairstyles. Coco Chanel sent the Victorian age packing. in the 1920s and 1930s when trips to the beach, the Riviera, or even to a pool, signaled one’s wealth and cosmopolitan lifestyle. Coco Chanel was said to have popularized the tan after catching too much sun one time.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/feb/19/history-of-tanning

*Full disclosure I own a digital copy of the movie "Gone with the wind. Last viewed in June 2020. I wanted to review the movie so that I can participate in a fact-based debate about why the movie can be re-released with educational information present before the start and at the end of the movie. I think additional information at the end of the movie on race relations content can turn this movie into an important education tool.

 

[LittlePanda]

It is interesting that in so many cultures and throughout history, pale skin was thought to be highly desirable in females in particular. I am thinking of the Ancient Egyptians and Romans and Far Eastern cultures, such as Chinese or Japanese, with geishas being an extreme example. Even in the U.K., before a ‘suntan’ became fashionable, the ‘fairer sex’ wished to be pale and winsome and avoided sunlight-think of the paintings of Elizabeth I. I think that was from a desire to be seen as ‘society’s elite’ rather than the working classes, so a prejudice based on class rather than race. Or perhaps it was both?
In the U.K. curled hair, particularly ringlets were thought of as desirable, rather than straight hair. My female cousins spent many sleepless nights with their hair in ‘rags’.

Hmmm sadly that's still true in most of Asia.... growing up in an Asian country, I was made to believe I wasn't attractive enough cause I wasn't fair .. even bought some of those fairness products ** ** Even now, whenever I go to a beauty store in another Asian country, they sometimes recommend "skin lightening" products for me. I just laugh it off, it doesn't bother me at all anymore...... well ....... maybe it does just a little bit

On the bright side.. looking forward to my Dis trip this week! Been working a lot

 

[AKL Ranger]

I promised to link articles of diversity to Disney content when posting articles that on the surface may not have an apparent or obvious connection to Disney.
Academy Award-winning actress Hattie McDaniel was the first African American woman to be awarded the OSCAR for Best Supporting Actress in "Gone With the Wind" in 1939 and was awarded two stars on Hollywood's Walk of fame. Did you know she could have been a Disney Legend?

A missing Disney Legend, Ms. McDaniel.
Ms. McDaniel played the role of Aunt Tempy in Walt Disney's "Song of the South." The picture starred Black actor James Baskett. Playing southern plantation workers during the post-civil war reconstruction era.
In a future article, we can explore more about James Baskett, who was awarded an Honorary Academy Award.


James Baskett (Uncle Remus), Hattie McDaniel (Aunt Tempy), Glenn Leedy.


1939 Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actress Hattie McDaniel.


Movie actress, television and radio personality, and singer,
Hattie McDaniel is the 29th honoree of the Black Heritage Series US Postal stamp series 2006.

Would you be surprised to learn Vivien Leigh enjoyed Disneyland?
Who knew "Scarlett" was a Dis'er?


Your Guest Jungle Cruise Skipper Vivien Leigh and Sir John Gielgud at Disneyland 1964.

See, even I can find six degrees of separation from "Gone with the Wind" and Disney.

DOC's you made it to Wednesday, make it a good day.
Stay safe, wash your hands, and wear your face masks covering both your nose and mouth.
Wishing you all Peace, Love, and Light.

 

[AKL Ranger]

Hello! I just wanted to jump in to say I'm so glad a thread like this has popped up and I'm 1000% supportive in all ways possible of a POC forum on the DIS. Like has been said we have one for the LGBTQ+ community as well as for the disabled or differently abled community. I think one to address diversity in terms of people of color, especially for BIPOC, is overdue and necessary for these boards to continue to be an inclusive place.

There's a lot of conversations happening, it's hard to keep track, but I wanted to input this specifically for my fellow white individuals, specifically those asking a lot of questions of the POC in this forum without doing their own research: Being able to ask these questions and get answers in that way is a privilege.

I'm gonna be upfront and say a lot of this you can look up on Google yourself if you are so curious. It's not super difficult.

Which begs the question of why certain aspects of these discussions, that seem critical aspects of human history, were never taught in schools? In reality, I think we all know the answer and it's a scary answer that pushes us to really reflect and reevaluate the world around us.

Apologies if I'm getting too broad on a Disney site and might be overstepping or stepping on good healthy discussion. Please let me know if this is too much. It's a learning process for everyone and as much as Google is there, some things can only be learned by trial-and-error. We are always continuing to learn and grow.

Hello @PlutosRHM55 ,
Welcome to DOC's,
I apologize for the delayed welcome to the thread. If anyone else is new as of 48 hours and if I neglected to extend a personal welcome, I apologize. I want to ensure this is a safe space for Brothers & Sisters of all color to feel safe and know that we can discuss the issue of diversity and Disney without third rail (restricted) subjects; no politics, no religion, and no hate speech.

The fourth promise of this thread is not to confront or acknowledge the obvious and sometimes subtle attempts to derail the positive focus of this thread. If some posts content and you know they are looking to gin up, stir up negativity, please, simply ignore the post and move on.

We are employing Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr method of peaceful, Non-confrontational mindset.

Continuing with our conversations about the topics and content we care about share in a positive and respectful tone, and not reacting to the negative, "we should get over it" posts. Then we are sitting at the "Woolworths" counter and peacefully waiting to be served while ignoring the jeers of those who are resistant to positive change.
This thread will be supportive, serving as an example of intersectionality. Linking to many of the Forums such as Dis-ability, LBGTQ, Solo Travelers, etc. We have members who fit into those categories but as persons of color our unique cultural view and experience of Disney, good and bad has been unseen and unheard.
We welcome questions, and unlike "google' we want our allies to know this is a safe place to learn from each other and grow in our collective love for all things Disney.

Wishing you and all the new Allies,
Peace, Love & Light
AKL Ranger

 

[Lindsey17]

Since Halle Bailey will be playing Ariel in the live action remake of The Little Mermaid do you think Disney will change up the meet and greet and parade and have a black Ariel for the live action instead of the animated version? I think it would be a missed opportunity on Disney's part if they don't as they certainly need more diversity among the Princesses.

 

[disneyland_is_magic]

Hi @AKL Ranger I think I majorly goofed and I need to apologize to you.

You mentioned a few pages back wanting to remove the negativity of a “no” answer on the original poll. So the new poll I was thinking both votes are now in the affirmative to gauge positive interest without a “no” option.
1st choice: Yes create the space, I will contribute as a POC or ally
2nd choice: Yes create the space, I don’t have anything to contribute (meaning I am here just to listen)

I voted the latter to show my support but in a listening only role. Now looking at the poll today with fresh eyes I am not certain that’s what it means. I want to change my vote but it’s locked.

I apologize for not being more diligent to ask questions to clarify first. Thank you for the work you are putting into this. If you can clarify please (although I am pretty sure I misunderstood) and please edit the option on the poll to allow us to change our votes I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.