Aulani updates and this is a little ridiculous

Personally as an Aulani DVC owner I feel our annual dues should be dropped significantly this coming year since many of the reasons we bought into Aulani aren’t even available but I am sure someone will argue as to why I am wrong but seriously where is my money going now?
Didn't you guys get a giant dues refund last year?
 
Didn't you guys get a giant dues refund last year?
I wasn’t an owner yet. I bought knowing some stuff wasn’t available at the time but it seems like they keep stripping more and more. Just read about the gym closure (not Covid related but a Disney choice). I am still going to go and understand the restrictions with COVID or having staffing issues but hard to swallow none the less when all us DVC owners worldwide pay a lot of money for a certain product that is not living up to expectations.
 
once again, aunty’s is closed but other kids’ clubs, including next door at the four seasons, remain open.
Do you understand that something can be "due to COVID" without being the product of a government mandate? My favorite pizza place requires masks. My favorite seafood place doesn't. Under your logic, the fact that the seafood place doesn't require masks is proof that the pizza place requires masks for some reason other than COVID.

"Because of COVID" doesn't just mean "stuff the state of Hawaii is forcing companies to do." Sometimes it just means "a lot of good people are doing their jobs the best they can in an impossibly challenging environment and making difficult decisions."
 
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I wasn’t an owner yet. I bought knowing some stuff wasn’t available at the time but it seems like they keep stripping more and more. Just read about the gym closure (not Covid related but a Disney choice). I am still going to go and understand the restrictions with COVID or having staffing issues but hard to swallow none the less when all us DVC owners worldwide pay a lot of money for a certain product that is not living up to expectations.
Where are you getting that the gym closure is "not COVID related"? That is absolutely false.
 
https://www.disboards.com/threads/at-aulani-now-it’s-amazing.3852234/post-63376375Granted not an official source but I doubt someone would completely pull it out of thin air
Again, just because the state is ALLOWING gyms to operate does not mean that Disney's decision to keep it closed for now is not due to COVID.

Some things, Disney is forced to do because of COVID. Some things, Disney is choosing to do because of COVID. Those categories are both "because of COVID."
 
Again, just because the state is ALLOWING gyms to operate does not mean that Disney's decision to keep it closed for now is not due to COVID.

Some things, Disney is forced to do because of COVID. Some things, Disney is choosing to do because of COVID. Those categories are both "because of COVID."
That is fine wether it is because of manning or whatever their decision related to it is however I still have a concern of where my money is going and if I am paying for something I have a right to question their decisions. Not that it will change anything. Again I am not saying screw Aulani I am not going. In fact I will be there after the New Year. I am just disappointed in the whole situation.
 
That is fine wether it is because of manning or whatever their decision related to it is however I still have a concern of where my money is going and if I am paying for something I have a right to question their decisions. Not that it will change anything. Again I am not saying screw Aulani I am not going. In fact I will be there after the New Year. I am just disappointed in the whole situation.
Rest assure that your dues money is closely audited. Everything you pay is being spent on what it's supposed to be spent on, or it's going into a reserve fund for future projects at the resort. Disney can't pocket dues money as extra profit. It's all walled off.
 
Do you understand that something can be "due to COVID" without being the product of a government mandate? My favorite pizza place requires masks. My favorite seafood place doesn't. Under your logic, the fact that the seafood place doesn't require masks is proof that the pizza place requires masks for some reason other than COVID.

hey kids sorry that aunty’s remains shuttered indefinitely, no not because of local restrictions it’s a byproduct of wider cost cutting at Disney, but it’s ok because chapek’s sock puppet told us his local pizza parlor made him wear a mask one time.
 
Rest assure that your dues money is closely audited. Everything you pay is being spent on what it's supposed to be spent on, or it's going into a reserve fund for future projects at the resort. Disney can't pocket dues money as extra profit. It's all walled off.
I guess the real rub is the fact Aulani’s perk are all they have to offer considering it’s location. If it is let’s say BLT or OKW and they were cutting back stuff at least you have 4 parks and a multitude of things to do. Granted I know FL and HI are in different places COVID wise. I do not plan on spending every moment at AUL it is Hawaii after all and I try to go all over the island. But when I am AUL I would love to use the fitness center or drop the kids off for a few hours so the adults could have some alone time, or use the pool without 600 kids splashing. But I understand it all. Just venting that is all.
 
Do you understand that something can be "due to COVID" without being the product of a government mandate? My favorite pizza place requires masks. My favorite seafood place doesn't. Under your logic, the fact that the seafood place doesn't require masks is proof that the pizza place requires masks for some reason other than COVID.

"Because of COVID" doesn't just mean "stuff the state of Hawaii is forcing companies to do." Sometimes it just means "a lot of good people are doing their jobs the best they can in an impossibly challenging environment and making difficult decisions."
So let’s use the OP’s DVC drink for your scenario - not something directly tied to public health like masks. Which are obviously and exclusively about Covid.

Imagine this pizza place had a deal where if you buy 10 pizzas you get the 11th free and they scrap that and claim it’s “because of Covid”. Perfectly fine, legal and within their rights - but they are using Covid as an excuse to increase their profits and labeling “Covid” as cover. It’s kind of sleazy to use a pandemic that way.
 
So let’s use the OP’s DVC drink for your scenario - not something directly tied to public health like masks. Which are obviously and exclusively about Covid.

Imagine this pizza place had a deal where if you buy 10 pizzas you get the 11th free and they scrap that and claim it’s “because of Covid”. Perfectly fine, legal and within their rights - but they are using Covid as an excuse to increase their profits and labeling “Covid” as cover. It’s kind of sleazy to use a pandemic that way.
Except the drink discount was offered when the resort was at 85% occupancy, not when it's at 40% occupancy. Nobody in Hawaii is "increasing their profits" right now, they're trying to mitigate the bleeding as best they can. Aulani is not a profitable operation for The Walt Disney Company in 2021.
 
Understanding/tolerance for the state of Aulani in 2021 seems to correlate a lot with how people are experiencing the Covid situation in their day to day lives.
For example Aunties: Where I live in CA child care has been open only with steady pods, significant precautions, and staff is in very short supply. I don't know a single parent who would send their <12 child to an indoor, mixed group of 20+ kids from all different places - which was how Aunties operated pre-Covid. Sure, a few resorts with fewer kids (and maybe different physical space) are open, but Aunties not being open doesn't surprise me at all. We love it, but are going back knowing its going to be missing this trip.

Same with a lot of other things like gyms, restaurant/drink specials, etc. If you live in a place that's been more careful with Covid and feel the pandemic is still not over, this is all easy to understand. Especially with what's been going on with the Delta variant in Hawaii. If you live in a place that has few restrictions, its more jarring I guess?

I just keep seeing these threads about why things are different and it highlights the different perspectives. Regardless, all of the restrictions are right on the Aulani homepage so shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I was just looking to book the Luau and pictures are included for VIP but not regular - seems pretty simple, although not exactly the same as WDW (nor should one expect it to be).
 
Understanding/tolerance for the state of Aulani in 2021 seems to correlate a lot with how people are experiencing the Covid situation in their day to day lives.
For example Aunties: Where I live in CA child care has been open only with steady pods, significant precautions, and staff is in very short supply. I don't know a single parent who would send their <12 child to an indoor, mixed group of 20+ kids from all different places - which was how Aunties operated pre-Covid. Sure, a few resorts with fewer kids (and maybe different physical space) are open, but Aunties not being open doesn't surprise me at all. We love it, but are going back knowing its going to be missing this trip.

Same with a lot of other things like gyms, restaurant/drink specials, etc. If you live in a place that's been more careful with Covid and feel the pandemic is still not over, this is all easy to understand. Especially with what's been going on with the Delta variant in Hawaii. If you live in a place that has few restrictions, its more jarring I guess?

I just keep seeing these threads about why things are different and it highlights the different perspectives. Regardless, all of the restrictions are right on the Aulani homepage so shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I was just looking to book the Luau and pictures are included for VIP but not regular - seems pretty simple, although not exactly the same as WDW (nor should one expect it to be).
I reach the same conclusions as you but my community is almost the exact opposite. We're extremely highly vaccinated (like 90%+ of eligible) and have very little community spread, so everyone has completely lost patience with any lingering restrictions. My kids have been in all of their sports and activities since Fall 2020.

The difference between me and the people mad at Disney are where I place the blame. The state of Hawaii seems hell-bent on killing their one major industry, both with explicit regulations and just a general hostility to visitors. I don't blame Disney for that. It's also why I'm losing patience with the continued lack of housekeeping and other services at Walt Disney World. Agree with them or disagree with them, Florida doesn't have the same political hurdles as Hawaii when it comes to getting back to normal.
 
Understanding/tolerance for the state of Aulani in 2021 seems to correlate a lot with how people are experiencing the Covid situation in their day to day lives.
For example Aunties: Where I live in CA child care has been open only with steady pods, significant precautions, and staff is in very short supply. I don't know a single parent who would send their <12 child to an indoor, mixed group of 20+ kids from all different places - which was how Aunties operated pre-Covid. Sure, a few resorts with fewer kids (and maybe different physical space) are open, but Aunties not being open doesn't surprise me at all. We love it, but are going back knowing its going to be missing this trip.

Same with a lot of other things like gyms, restaurant/drink specials, etc. If you live in a place that's been more careful with Covid and feel the pandemic is still not over, this is all easy to understand. Especially with what's been going on with the Delta variant in Hawaii. If you live in a place that has few restrictions, its more jarring I guess?

I just keep seeing these threads about why things are different and it highlights the different perspectives. Regardless, all of the restrictions are right on the Aulani homepage so shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I was just looking to book the Luau and pictures are included for VIP but not regular - seems pretty simple, although not exactly the same as WDW (nor should one expect it to be).
I’m a blue (NY) state democrat.
Except the drink discount was offered when the resort was at 85% occupancy, not when it's at 40% occupancy. Nobody in Hawaii is "increasing their profits" right now, they're trying to mitigate the bleeding as best they can. Aulani is not a profitable operation for The Walt Disney Company in 2021.
But that is EXACTLY my point. They are cutting their losses. Calling it Covid related is disingenuous. Just call it what it is. They would be smart to be long term greedy.
 
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I don't blame Disney for that. It's also why I'm losing patience with the continued lack of housekeeping and other services at Walt Disney World. Agree with them or disagree with them, Florida doesn't have the same political hurdles as Hawaii when it comes to getting back to normal.
Right. I was just at WDW and I think there are some precautions in place that make sense (I wouldn't have gone w/o indoor masking, given the level of community spread at the time). Some don't make sense, and housekeeping is one of them. That's purely a staffing and cost decision.

I do have a friend who was just hired into housekeeping at WDW a few weeks ago though, so I do think they are working on it. I don't expect ramping back up to be fast, talent shortages are a challenge globally across industries right now, unfortunately.
 

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