Twas The Night Before Elections

This is truly going to be a day that history will remember! The only problem is I think it is going to be remembered as the beginning of the end!

I will hold my head high and proudly say, it wasn't my fault, I didn't drink the Kool Aid.
 
This is truly going to be a day that history will remember! The only problem is I think it is going to be remembered as the beginning of the end!

I will hold my head high and proudly say, it wasn't my fault, I didn't drink the Kool Aid.

11/4/08 The day Democracy fell
 
Fools..........just damned fools. A country cries tonight..Our Lady Liberty will be stripped of her integrity. I pray for us.
 
November 3, 2008

Open letter to Senator Barack Obama

Dear Senator Obama:

In your nearly two-year presidential campaign, the words "hope and change," "change and hope" have been your trademark declarations. Yet there is an asymmetry between those objectives and your political character that succumbs to contrary centers of power that want not "hope and change" but the continuation of the power-entrenched status quo.

Far more than Senator McCain, you have received enormous, unprecedented contributions from corporate interests, Wall Street interests and, most interestingly, big corporate law firm attorneys. Never before has a Democratic nominee for President achieved this supremacy over his Republican counterpart. Why, apart from your unconditional vote for the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, are these large corporate interests investing so much in Senator Obama? Could it be that in your state Senate record, your U.S. Senate record and your presidential campaign record (favoring nuclear power, coal plants, offshore oil drilling, corporate subsidies including the 1872 Mining Act and avoiding any comprehensive program to crack down on the corporate crime wave and the bloated, wasteful military budget, for example) you have shown that you are their man?

To advance change and hope, the presidential persona requires character, courage, integrity-- not expediency, accommodation and short-range opportunism. Take, for example, your transformation from an articulate defender of Palestinian rights in Chicago before your run for the U.S. Senate to an acolyte, a dittoman for the hard-line AIPAC lobby, which bolsters the militaristic oppression, occupation, blockage, colonization and land-water seizures over the years of the Palestinian peoples and their shrunken territories in the West Bank and Gaza. Eric Alterman summarized numerous polls in a December 2007 issue of The Nation magazine showing that AIPAC policies are opposed by a majority of Jewish-Americans.

You know quite well that only when the U.S. Government supports the Israeli and Palestinian peace movements, that years ago worked out a detailed two-state solution (which is supported by a majority of Israelis and Palestinians), will there be a chance for a peaceful resolution of this 60-year plus conflict. Yet you align yourself with the hard-liners, so much so that in your infamous, demeaning speech to the AIPAC convention right after you gained the nomination of the Democratic Party, you supported an "undivided Jerusalem," and opposed negotiations with Hamas-- the elected government in Gaza. Once again, you ignored the will of the Israeli people who, in a March 1, 2008 poll by the respected newspaper Haaretz, showed that 64% of Israelis favored "direct negotiations with Hamas." Siding with the AIPAC hard-liners is what one of the many leading Palestinians advocating dialogue and peace with the Israeli people was describing when he wrote "Anti-semitism today is the persecution of Palestinian society by the Israeli state."

During your visit to Israel this summer, you scheduled a mere 45 minutes of your time for Palestinians with no news conference, and no visit to Palestinian refugee camps that would have focused the media on the brutalization of the Palestinians. Your trip supported the illegal, cruel blockade of Gaza in defiance of international law and the United Nations charter. You focused on southern Israeli casualties which during the past year have totaled one civilian casualty to every 400 Palestinian casualties on the Gaza side. Instead of a statesmanship that decried all violence and its replacement with acceptance of the Arab League's 2002 proposal to permit a viable Palestinian state within the 1967 borders in return for full economic and diplomatic relations between Arab countries and Israel, you played the role of a cheap politician, leaving the area and Palestinians with the feeling of much shock and little awe.

David Levy, a former Israeli peace negotiator, described your trip succinctly: "There was almost a willful display of indifference to the fact that there are two narratives here. This could serve him well as a candidate, but not as a President."

Palestinian American commentator, Ali Abunimah, noted that Obama did not utter a single criticism of Israel, "of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians. ...Even the Bush administration recently criticized Israeli's use of cluster bombs against Lebanese civilians [see www.atfl.org for elaboration]. But Obama defended Israeli's assault on Lebanon as an exercise of its 'legitimate right to defend itself.'"

In numerous columns Gideon Levy, writing in Haaretz, strongly criticized the Israeli government's assault on civilians in Gaza, including attacks on "the heart of a crowded refugee camp... with horrible bloodshed" in early 2008.

Israeli writer and peace advocate-- Uri Avnery-- described Obama's appearance before AIPAC as one that "broke all records for obsequiousness and fawning, adding that Obama "is prepared to sacrifice the most basic American interests. After all, the US has a vital interest in achieving an Israeli-Palestinian peace that will allow it to find ways to the hearts of the Arab masses from Iraq to Morocco. Obama has harmed his image in the Muslim world and mortgaged his future-- if and when he is elected president.," he said, adding, "Of one thing I am certain: Obama's declarations at the AIPAC conference are very, very bad for peace. And what is bad for peace is bad for Israel, bad for the world and bad for the Palestinian people."

A further illustration of your deficiency of character is the way you turned your back on the Muslim-Americans in this country. You refused to send surrogates to speak to voters at their events. Having visited numerous churches and synagogues, you refused to visit a single Mosque in America. Even George W. Bush visited the Grand Mosque in Washington D.C. after 9/11 to express proper sentiments of tolerance before a frightened major religious group of innocents.

Although the New York Times published a major article on June 24, 2008 titled "Muslim Voters Detect a Snub from Obama" (by Andrea Elliott), citing examples of your aversion to these Americans who come from all walks of life, who serve in the armed forces and who work to live the American dream. Three days earlier the International Herald Tribune published an article by Roger Cohen titled "Why Obama Should Visit a Mosque." None of these comments and reports change your political bigotry against Muslim-Americans-- even though your father was a Muslim from Kenya.

Perhaps nothing illustrated your utter lack of political courage or even the mildest version of this trait than your surrendering to demands of the hard-liners to prohibit former president Jimmy Carter from speaking at the Democratic National Convention. This is a tradition for former presidents and one accorded in prime time to Bill Clinton this year.

Here was a President who negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt, but his recent book pressing the dominant Israeli superpower to avoid Apartheid of the Palestinians and make peace was all that it took to sideline him. Instead of an important address to the nation by Jimmy Carter on this critical international problem, he was relegated to a stroll across the stage to "tumultuous applause," following a showing of a film about the Carter Center's post-Katrina work. Shame on you, Barack Obama!

But then your shameful behavior has extended to many other areas of American life. (See the factual analysis by my running mate, Matt Gonzalez, on www.votenader.org). You have turned your back on the 100-million poor Americans composed of poor whites, African-Americans, and Latinos. You always mention helping the "middle class" but you omit, repeatedly, mention of the "poor" in America.

Should you be elected President, it must be more than an unprecedented upward career move following a brilliantly unprincipled campaign that spoke "change" yet demonstrated actual obeisance to the concentration power of the "corporate supremacists." It must be about shifting the power from the few to the many. It must be a White House presided over by a black man who does not turn his back on the downtrodden here and abroad but challenges the forces of greed, dictatorial control of labor, consumers and taxpayers, and the militarization of foreign policy. It must be a White House that is transforming of American politics-- opening it up to the public funding of elections (through voluntary approaches)-- and allowing smaller candidates to have a chance to be heard on debates and in the fullness of their now restricted civil liberties. Call it a competitive democracy.

Your presidential campaign again and again has demonstrated cowardly stands. "Hope" some say springs eternal." But not when "reality" consumes it daily.

Sincerely,
Ralph Nader
 
Its a great day to be an American......................

It really is. I am sitting here watching Obama's acceptance speech with my daughters knowing they will always remember this moment. You can't help but be moved by his speech and encouraged about the future. I think we are at the beginning of a remarkable turn around for this country and we were all part of it. As he said tonight, it will be a steep hill and it will take some work....but we WILL get there. YES WE CAN !! :woohoo:

I wasn't around in the 60's for Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, RFK and the civil right movement. Up until this point I don't think I've ever felt so inspired to be an American and so excited about the future. I've grown up with the stories of my parents about how great it was to be "part of something" bigger than yourself and tonight that is how I feel.

I think McCain's concession speech was well done. I've always thought he was a man with integrity and he proved it tonight. I know I am in the minority on this board with my Obama support, but I hope that we can all come together and show our support for the good of our country.
 
It really is. I am sitting here watching Obama's acceptance speech with my daughters knowing they will always remember this moment. You can't help but be moved by his speech and encouraged about the future. I think we are at the beginning of a remarkable turn around for this country and we were all part of it. As he said tonight, it will be a steep hill and it will take some work....but we WILL get there. YES WE CAN !! :woohoo:

I wasn't around in the 60's for Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, RFK and the civil right movement. Up until this point I don't think I've ever felt so inspired to be an American and so excited about the future. I've grown up with the stories of my parents about how great it was to be "part of something" bigger than yourself and tonight that is how I feel.

I think McCain's concession speech was well done. I've always thought he was a man with integrity and he proved it tonight. I know I am in the minority on this board with my Obama support, but I hope that we can all come together and show our support for the good of our country.

I agree!:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2
 
I simply cant see Obama being grouped with JFK and RFK...or ANY American with pride in his or her country. If ones willing to turn his back on the pledge of this country simply to not offend those that are not of the AMERICAN descent(thats right American...not European, Not African, regardless of race, creed, or color.......AMERICAN), then I have to question his intentions of the power held while in posession of this country. I sincerely fear for our future that is admitedly destined for change.
 
I simply cant see Obama being grouped with JFK and RFK...or ANY American with pride in his or her country. If ones willing to turn his back on the pledge of this country simply to not offend those that are not of the AMERICAN descent(thats right American...not European, Not African, regardless of race, creed, or color.......AMERICAN), then I have to question his intentions of the power held while in posession of this country. I sincerely fear for our future that is admitedly destined for change.

I agree. I am scared for our country. At least we voted for the right choice, John McCain. What a big mistake the American people have made. :sad2: Things are going to get worse not better.
 
Did you notice the first words out of his mouth? For all is Hope and Change he stated he could not promise anything he just promised everyone for two years. Man, he just through his backers/voters under a huge bus and they did not even see it coming. Who knew?

I see the Carter years all over again...WOW!

Oh well, time to move on. One day this Country will wake up...I hope.:thumbsup2
 
It really is. I am sitting here watching Obama's acceptance speech with my daughters knowing they will always remember this moment. You can't help but be moved by his speech and encouraged about the future. I think we are at the beginning of a remarkable turn around for this country and we were all part of it. As he said tonight, it will be a steep hill and it will take some work....but we WILL get there. YES WE CAN !! :woohoo:

I wasn't around in the 60's for Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, RFK and the civil right movement. Up until this point I don't think I've ever felt so inspired to be an American and so excited about the future. I've grown up with the stories of my parents about how great it was to be "part of something" bigger than yourself and tonight that is how I feel.

I think McCain's concession speech was well done. I've always thought he was a man with integrity and he proved it tonight. I know I am in the minority on this board with my Obama support, but I hope that we can all come together and show our support for the good of our country.

Very well said
 
Well the 18-29 yo voters gave us Obama. They are from the entitlement generation. They all think nobama will take care of them and they won't have to do anything. I have a 22yo dau who is single mom and thinks this way. she voted for nobama and thinks he is for single moms. So sad, but they will be surprised when he doesn't do anything for them. I just wonder if he will be sworn in using the bible or the koran?
 
It really is. I am sitting here watching Obama's acceptance speech with my daughters knowing they will always remember this moment. You can't help but be moved by his speech and encouraged about the future. I think we are at the beginning of a remarkable turn around for this country and we were all part of it. As he said tonight, it will be a steep hill and it will take some work....but we WILL get there. YES WE CAN !! :woohoo:

I wasn't around in the 60's for Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, RFK and the civil right movement. Up until this point I don't think I've ever felt so inspired to be an American and so excited about the future. I've grown up with the stories of my parents about how great it was to be "part of something" bigger than yourself and tonight that is how I feel.

I think McCain's concession speech was well done. I've always thought he was a man with integrity and he proved it tonight. I know I am in the minority on this board with my Obama support, but I hope that we can all come together and show our support for the good of our country.

1. I don't get moved by watching garbage.
2. How can my future look better when my taxes are going up and I have less money for the same work. Hint; I will be doing less work the minute I know the amount of the tax increases. I am not working just to give it to the trashy government.
3. If he does what he says then your going to see a turn around alright.(unemployment)
4. My parents were part of something also, IT WAS CALLED PROVIDEING FOR THEMSELVES, NOT LIVING OFF THE BACKS OF OTHER HARDWORKERS.
5. I'll never show support for a socialist, unless your talking about the support people show for Bush now. Oh, wait people want you to do as I say not as I do.
 
Did you notice the first words out of his mouth? For all is Hope and Change he stated he could not promise anything he just promised everyone for two years. Man, he just through his backers/voters under a huge bus and they did not even see it coming. Who knew?

I see the Carter years all over again...WOW!

Oh well, time to move on. One day this Country will wake up...I hope.:thumbsup2

I agree, the Carter years are coming, and of course Bush will still take the heat for it.

Will this country wake up ? It's obvious to me the answer is a absolute, no.






Barack,,some folk think he can walk on water,,,
but I'd bet he couldn't catch any fish outta that water.
 
1. I don't get moved by watching garbage.One person's trash is another's treasure

2. How can my future look better when my taxes are going up and I have less money for the same work. Hint; I will be doing less work the minute I know the amount of the tax increases. I am not working just to give it to the trashy government.Then yours will be a self-fulfilling prophecy

3. If he does what he says then your going to see a turn around alright.(unemployment)Bush has that covered already

4. My parents were part of something also, IT WAS CALLED PROVIDEING FOR THEMSELVES, NOT LIVING OFF THE BACKS OF OTHER HARDWORKERS.
Good for them. Something all Americans should strive to do. Good thing we can now support all citizens in their endeavors. It takes a village. If we could count on people to have the decency to take care of their own, maybe we wouldn't need the government to step up and make it happen. The good news, if you tithe at church and donate to charities. You get to write that money off your taxes. So do good from your heart and it benefits society and yourself. At least you have control of where your money is going.

5. I'll never show support for a socialist, unless your talking about the support people show for Bush now. Oh, wait people want you to do as I say not as I do.

Socialism is not the answer. Entitlement is not the answer. However, it is a good countries responsibility to encourage and support and even help their citizens when necessary. No one deserves a handout, but if this country is to flourish, its people must do so first. Good education, a warm home, enough food and the reinforcement of esteem to rise up in life and be an asset to this fine country is what we need. Pride in our people, inspiration to do the best we can. America is in a low low place right now. We need reassurance and inspiration.
 
Obama is a terrorist's best friend.


truer words were never spoken.


the bible/koran thing will be interesting. my guess is he'll say he's using his grandmother's favorite book (it'll be more accepted for the sympathy), to get out of using the bible. will the koran really be inside the cover?
 
Well at least one thing has come out of this. The libs control it all so now Bush won't have to take the blame for everything now.
I can hardly control my excitement, waiting for my handout from the government. Just think all these years I've worked, now I can retire early.:rotfl:
 
Im thinking that being unemployed and governmooching is the way to go now as well....I mean...Im pretty sure they cant prevent me from collecting "I dont wanna work" benefits just because of the color of my parents, can they?
 
Well at least one thing has come out of this. The libs control it all so now Bush won't have to take the blame for everything now.
I can hardly control my excitement, waiting for my handout from the government. Just think all these years I've worked, now I can retire early.:rotfl:


thats what i think too. they have alot of promises to live up to and this will be open season on libs when it all starts caving in on them.

don't get me wrong, i am happy for the black race; they have come a long way and i know this is a joyful time for them. it's just that obama is SO not right for this country. geez, hillary would have been a better choice!
 

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