Why ROyal Caribbean?

well, okay! that's helpful to know. i appreciate all the responses about the beach at labadee! i was really worried about that! good to know that we don't have to worry about the quality of the beach. we will keep royal caribbean as an option. anymore experiences/opinions about the beach is more than welcome! please keep them coming!:thumbsup2
Here's a couple of pictures of the beach at CocoCay, which is RCCL's other private island.

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We have only cruised twice, RCCL and Norwegian - so I can't compare with DCL.

RCCL Enchantment was incredible! The ship was so clean and new looking, perfect. The food and service were great, and the cost was a bargain.

The Norwegian Dream was okay, not great, not too bad. But the trip was very inexpensive. It didn't help that the cruise stopped at Progresso Mexico, which was a very impoverished slum with a horrible beach littered with nasty garbage, and Belize City which was a run down shadow of it's former British Colonial glory days. Somewhat interesting to me, but scary to my wife, daughter, and exchange student daughter.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I didn't get charged for eating at Cabana's, even though that isn't an MDR. I do know you're talking about Palo and Remy. Maybe I'm just not understanding where that comment was from... To be honest, I am considering my next cruise to be with RCI, but I had 4 awesome Disney cruises.



Sorry. I thought the buffet restaurant was a given it was free. My point was that they are pretty similar in this regard, but they sell a different product.
 
In addition to lots of comments already answering "why" I'll add this... while many people are lifelong Disney Cruisers, there appears to be a large group of folks who "outgrow" the Disney experience and/or prefer different destinations. RCI is a leader in the family cruising industry, and it makes sense to have a place to discuss options, especially among those who know Disney like the back of their hand.
 


We love both DCL and RCCL, and we've taken both our kids on both lines. Both children (DS is 8 and DD just turned 3) prefer DCL. DD does not really like to be away from home, and the only vacation we've ever taken that she loved so much that she wasn't asking to go home by the second night was our most recent cruise on DCL (last month.) In fact, for days after it, she kept asking, "We go back on boat tomorrow? Ok, very soon?"

DCL is great for young children. Both my kids are big Disney fans, and DD is now in the princess phase, so DCL is our first choice right now, when all things are equal. But all things are rarely equal.

For the first time in years, we don't currently have a cruise booked. (We've got trips planned to California, Hawaii, and Florida, staying on Disney property at all destinations, so we're thinking we have sufficient Disney planned for the next year.) We're seriously considering cruising with RCCL again for our next cruise.

Honestly, we think DCL has too many sailings out of Florida planned for the near future. We care about itinerary and convenience. For a Caribbean route (we've sailed the Caribbean a lot, and so have the kids,) certainly a Western Caribbean route, there is absolutely no way we're going to go to Florida when we have a perfectly good cruise port in Galveston, an hour from us. We sailed with DCL twice when they were sailing out of Galveston. If they'd stayed, we'd have sailed with them again. If they ever come back, we'll sail with them again. But while they're just sailing out of Florida, we'll sail with RCCL for the Caribbean.

Don't get me wrong, we loved DCL and thought it was worth every penny. We'll sail with them again. But RCCL has some real strengths. Their pools are less crowded; we much prefer RCCL's pool setups. We love the ice show. Some of their concierge benefits are actually far superior to DCLs, which matters to us. (For example, RCCL has reserved seating areas for concierge guests in the theaters, and RCCL's concierges escort the concierge guests off the ship first at disembarkation.)

Both lines have great children's areas and activities. (Our son actually prefers Celebrity's kid's club to either, however, as it is generally much less crowded and chaotic.) Where DCL really shines is the activities that families can do together. I love spending time with my kids on vacations, so I like that DCL has activities like the character drawing lessons.

We've had great service on both RCCL and DCL. We've had truly amazing serving teams in the MDRs on both lines. (We really hated Anytime dining the one time we had it on RCCL, though. We never seemed to get the same dining team, except the one team we thought was lousy on night 2 we got one other time, and they were still lousy.) I do think we've found that DCL crew members generally display more happiness, and go out of their way a little more to make sure you have a magical time.

Anyway, we've sailed both lines in the last year and a half. We plan to sail both lines in the future. I'm happy to see discussion about RCCL on the disboards. RCCL really is a valid option to consider for families, particularly those with older kids. My kids strongly prefer DCL right now; the adults are equally happy with either line. In fact, DH might be happier on a ship where standing in line for 2 hours to meet princesses isn't an option! ;)
 
We love both DCL and RCCL, and we've taken both our kids on both lines. Both children (DS is 8 and DD just turned 3) prefer DCL. Both lines have great children's areas and activities. (Our son actually prefers Celebrity's kid's club to either, however, as it is generally much less crowded and chaotic.) ;)
Not to hijack this thread but I noticed you mentioned your son liked Celebrity's kids club. Celebrity is our 2nd option we're considering if not RCCL as I've heard great things about it. But this was from a couple without children. Are the club hours very limited? Is there other things for kids (Tweens/teens) on Celebrity like RCCL? ( stuff "like" the Rock climbing, or deck activities, etc)? Thanks!
 
We absolutely love Celebrity. Our son loves it as well. (Our daughter hasn't sailed with them.) I think it will appeal to a certain type of child, but it isn't nearly as focused on active family entertainment as RCCL.

The Celebrity Eclipse has a grass lawn on deck, and we all enjoyed relaxing and playing in the grass. The glass blowing workshop, next to the lawn, was absolutely fascinating. One of the kids club activities was that the children designed a glass blown item, and the glass blowers chose a couple of the designs to execute. We went to many glass blowing demonstrations, and were really fascinated to watch them work.

The kids club (Fun Factory) has (or at least had) more limited free hours than DCL. If I remember correctly, you had to pay for off peak times (late nights and meal times, when we were on a couple of years ago), although we never did their late night parties. They have more age group divisions that DCL does at this point, although we found that they would combine some age groups when there were fewer children on the sailing. They had themed activities through the day, and the kids could either participate in the themed activity or do other things in the room. DS loved the more intimate, less chaotic feel of the club. It was an attractive space, but certainly nothing like the spectacularly themed DCL clubs.

The pools never seemed nearly as crowded as the DCL pools. There aren't the activity type pools you find on some lines, but for actual time swimming in the water, we found them to be superior.

There are no rock walls. There are no ice rinks. There are no tidal wave pools. There are no pool slides. They don't seem to be as geared to active cruising, if that makes sense. There is a basketball court, and lots of activities, don't get me wrong. But that doesn't feel like the focus.

There was lots of live music around the ship, all the time. We loved it, but it doesn't matter to many people.

We found the food on Celebrity to be superior to both the food on RCCL and DCL. The main dining room was good, but the specialty restaurants really were, well, special. Qsine remains unanimously our favorite restaurant at sea. The food is fun and playful, and the meal makes for entertainment as well as nourishment, even for a child. Our son is also a nut for crepes, and would eat at the Bistro on 5 for every meal if we were willing to pay the minimal upcharge constantly.

We found the entertainment to be much less child friendly. The production shows were more or less fine; some sexy costumes and song lyrics, but generally engaging enough to hold the attention. The Cirque de Soleil style show with the aerialists particularly entertained all of us. The other nights... lets just say, some evenings were not engaging for the adults in our party and not appropriate for the child. We've had the same issue on RCCL sometimes. DCL is the only line I feel really comfortable taking the kids every night.

Celebrity doesn't feel like the same sort of cruise. Yes, there are children's and teen's activities, but on the whole, the ship seems to have a more sophisticated and cultured vibe. Great wine progam, fun cooking classes, some great shows, and wonderful restaurants. There are certainly children sailing on board and having a great time. They apparently have a good teen program, as well, but we don't have a teen yet, so we haven't experienced it first hand. I wouldn't hesitate to sail them again, but I can see how they wouldn't be the best choice for some types of vacationers.
 


Food is very subjective. I hated celebrities food-I lost six pounds on that cruise
 
I have been researching RCCL for quite some time now - and I am still completely lost with it all. I do not like their website at all.
Hopefully I can get some assistance from all of you:

* Which deck would you consider the loudest? In otherwords, I know on some cruise ships, experienced cruisers choose not to get a cabin on a certain deck because they can hear the pool pumps etc. Does RCCL have this problem on "Any" of their ships?

* Is the Dreamworks characters worth the RCCL 'try' ? I have a 5 year old and am wondering if he would enjoy it at all or if it is so sparce that it really doesn't even make a difference

* Is the food included?? I keep seeing something about dining plans but can't seem to find a price, which makes me think that food is not included.

* What type of drinks are included if any?

* Are the extra things included in the price such as the zip lining, ice skating, flow rider, rock climbing, inline skating etc

* Has anyone been on any of the RCCL ships with the ice skating? Is this synthetic ice? or an actual rink? Do we need to bring our own skates or are they rented on board?

* Have any of you done the concierge level? Other than the size of the rooms - is it worth the price difference?

Sorry for all of the questions, but their website is sooooo frustrating. And to call their phone line, I'm just going to get a representative of the company trying to 'sell' me on anything. I want the Truth! And I know I can rely on my fellow DIS board members for that!

Thanks in advance (soooo much!)
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I have been researching RCCL for quite some time now - and I am still completely lost with it all. I do not like their website at all.
Hopefully I can get some assistance from all of you:

* Which deck would you consider the loudest? In otherwords, I know on some cruise ships, experienced cruisers choose not to get a cabin on a certain deck because they can hear the pool pumps etc. Does RCCL have this problem on "Any" of their ships?

* Is the Dreamworks characters worth the RCCL 'try' ? I have a 5 year old and am wondering if he would enjoy it at all or if it is so sparce that it really doesn't even make a difference

* Is the food included?? I keep seeing something about dining plans but can't seem to find a price, which makes me think that food is not included.

* What type of drinks are included if any?

* Are the extra things included in the price such as the zip lining, ice skating, flow rider, rock climbing, inline skating etc

* Has anyone been on any of the RCCL ships with the ice skating? Is this synthetic ice? or an actual rink? Do we need to bring our own skates or are they rented on board?

* Have any of you done the concierge level? Other than the size of the rooms - is it worth the price difference?

Sorry for all of the questions, but their website is sooooo frustrating. And to call their phone line, I'm just going to get a representative of the company trying to 'sell' me on anything. I want the Truth! And I know I can rely on my fellow DIS board members for that!

Thanks in advance (soooo much!)
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I have found the phone reps to be fabulous. Could be biased because they are just down the road from me.

Quite a lot of food is included just like on Disney. Where have you read about dining plans? You might be reading about the specialty dining places. That's like palo and remy. They are extra.

Soda isn't included. Nor is booze. But you can select from a variety of packages.

Rock wall is included. As far as I know skating is too but I might be wrong. I'm 100% sure you get skates onboard but i don't know the rental cost.

You get concierge if you are in a suite above the junior suite level. It's not a category like disney has.

We have two character breakfasts booked on freedom in a couple weeks. Pretty excited! They are included, no extra cost, but you do make a reservation. Don't know if my guy would have appreciated the dreamworks characters at 5 but yours might. Depends on what movies he has seen I suppose.
 
Personally, I am so happy the Dis added this board. We've been sailing on RCI ships for years and absolutely love them. For us, the price and departure port options are the key (well...and the casinos!). We've found some amazing deals on RCI sailings that would never be possible on DCL. I'm sure DCL is great, but it's just too much for us right now.

We've been on the Explorer several times (it departs from New Jersey, which is super convenient for us) and just recently sailed on the Freedom. Both ships are fantastic. The customer service we've received has been outstanding - right on par with my disney experiences at WDW.

With regard to the dining issue - I think we're trying to compare two very different dining "systems." DCL rotates through various dining rooms, while RCI uses a large main dining room with a rotating menu. Both also have specialty restaurants that cost extra. I haven't had a single meal on a RCI ship that wasn't excellent - honestly.

Our wait staff have always taken the time to listen to our special requests and try to make our experience on-board extra special. For example, on one ship, we were seated with an older couple that really loved this shrimp dish that was on the menu during our first dinner. So much so that they asked for it the next night. I assumed this was totally impossible, since the kitchen would be set up for a different menu. A short while later, our waiter came out with two fresh helpings of the dish and without even being asked, offered it every night for the rest of our 9 night cruise.

RCI is also in the middle of/wrapping up a complete overhaul of all of their "older" ships. They've brought a lot of the concepts from the newer ships to the older ships, keeping things fresh and new.

That felt a little bit like a sales pitch...anyway, my point is that people should keep an open mind. Disney isn't the only company that has the customer service thing figured out!
 
I hear many great things about the customer service with RCCL - that's exactly why we are looking into it so thoroughly.
I love hearing about all of the great reviews and exciting things that people love about RCCL so keep em' coming.
 
We always sail concierge, both on DCL and RCCL, so I'm happy to provide comparisons if you're interested.

RCCL's setup is more like the newer DCL ships in that there is an actual concierge lounge, where you will find your concierges at certain hours (and bartenders during happy hour.) There are free drinks (alcoholic beverages and sodas) during happy hour, as well as assorted appetizers, both hot and cold. Some of the RCCL's concierge lounges double as the Diamond Lounges (RCCL's frequent cruiser program), some are just concierge lounges. The ones that double as the diamond lounges can get very crowded during happy hour. The lounge doors require a keycard for an appropriate room (or cruiser type, as diamond + may have access.) In my experience, the lounges seem to have snacks often through the day (continental breakfast in the morning, cookies in the afternoon, and serious appetizers at dinner time.) There is a coffee machine in the lounge that is always available; we thought it served the best coffee on the ships.

My favorite RCCL concierge perk that I really miss on DCL is that there is reserved seating for the shows for concierge guests. It is not the best seating in the house, but it is held open for concierge guests until something like 5 or 10 minutes before the show, so you can be secure you'll have decent seats without showing up way in advance. We loved this, and used it constantly for the main theater shows. We also got guaranteed seating in the ice skating shows. The ice skating shows are absolutely amazing, and remain some of the best entertainment on the sea (in the opinion of everyone in our family. Oh, except the 3 year old, because well, no princesses. ;) )

Another RCCL perk we've liked a lot was that for your final disembarkation, the concierge would gather the group of concierge guests who were ready early, and escort them off the ship first. The kept you from getting stuck in the long customs line that could sometimes develop.

As far as meals go, we got our choice of times at all the specialty restaurants. (This was also true concierge on DCL.) The full dining room menu is available for room service. (Also true on DCL.) There is a reserved area for breakfast and lunch for concierge guests, so even when we were grabbing a quick bite, we didn't have to search for a table.

We've found the service on RCCL to be great sometimes, and terrible sometimes. We had a really bad experience with a terrible wait team when we did anytime dining, and we got them twice. We hated anytime dining, in part because of them. We'd had such good wait teams on other cruises that the differences were very obvious. On RCCL, we've had teams who learned our drink preferences by the second night, and had them all waiting for us when we arrived at our table for almost the entirety of the cruise. We've had teams who made sure our toddler or young child had food or snacks waiting for us when we arrived. (We've traveled extensively with very young children, so these things really mattered to us - DS's first cruise was at 8 months, DD's was at 14 months.) We've had teams figure out my DH or DM's favorite dessert, and bring them one almost every night in addition to whatever they actually ordered.

We've also had great experiences on DCL. Our most interesting experience in the MDR on DCL was that we observed the table next to us getting gorgeous, obviously freshly cooked Indian vegetarian food night after night, and we commented to our team that we thought it looked and smelled delicious. The next night, they brought us several specially cooked Indian dishes, a mix of vegetarian and non-vegetarian options. We were blown away. (A couple of the dishes were some of the best we had on the cruise, even eating Palo meals multiple times.)

As far as what is included, with any cruise, doesn't matter what cruiseline or what cabin type, your basic meals are included. Almost all lines (including both RCCL and DCL) will have both a main dining room (MDR) option and a buffet option, as well as various quick service places that have things like pizza or hot dogs. DCL is unique in the fact that their main dining room is actually 3 smaller dining rooms that you rotate through, each with different decor and a different feel. Almost all lines these days (again, including both) also have specialty restaurants that you can pay extra to go to. The real difference here is that food in the MDRs is prepared in bulk, so it like eating at a nice banquet. It is mass produced. In the specialty restaurants, your food is generally cooked to order. This does generally make for higher quality of food in the specialty restaurants. Some people consider the extra nudge in quality worth it, others don't. In the main dining room, depending on the size of your party, you may be seated with other travelers. Unless you're in concierge; concierge guests get their own table, generally, unless they request otherwise. In specialty restaurants, you will be seated at your own table, unless you are attending a special program, such as a wine dinner or visiting chef dinner, in which case everyone may be at a single large table.

As far as drinks go, most lines have tea and coffee included, and often juice at breakfast (but not fresh squeezed juice; that's extra.) Coffee drinks are usually available for purchase these days from a coffee bar. Disney includes soda from the beverage station. (Cans are still extra.) Other lines charge for each soda, or you can purchase a soda card.

Small snacks are generally available around the ship and at the coffee bar, but some (such as premium ice cream or cupcakes) may be an additional charge. You can usually grab things like pizza and burgers for free through most of the day, as well. (RCCL ships also often have a johnny rockets on the ship these days, which charges both a fee to eat there AND an additional fee for the milkshakes.) Sometimes they offer some of the dishes from the specialty restaurants in the main dining room for a small upcharge, as well.

Anyway, all you can eat is definitely included. You can expand your options by spending extra money.

Entertainment is also included on the ships. This can include movies, variety acts, classes, production shows, and lounges. Bingo and, on RCCL, traditional gambling, costs you extra. Shore excursions cost extra. (You can get off the ship on your own and grab a taxi or book excursions independently if you want.) On RCCL ships that have them, flowriders, zip lines, ice skating (they provide the skates), mini golf and rock walls are included in your fare.

We haven't done the Dreamworks experiences, so I can't speak to them.

Hope some of this is helpful!
 
Wow GoldenRose.... you're hired!

Thank you so much for touching every last bit of my questions in extreme detail. That was an absolutely awesome read! I enjoyed it thoroughly and will be able to discuss with my husband at length (acting like I know it all! LOL)

Hope you don't mind if I use you as my official "go to" RCCL advisor! LOL:rotfl2:
 
I'm considering a royal Caribbean cruise allure of the seas. It looks like a fantastic ship my question is because it's so big how do u keep in contact with your party I've been on three Disney cruises and one carnival (I erased the carnival from my memory bank first cruise I ever took and it was so bad I did not want to cruise again until I did Disney)anyways...are there phones like Disney so everyone can contact each other????

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* Is the food included?? I keep seeing something about dining plans but can't seem to find a price, which makes me think that food is not included.
Included food is available 24/7, including breakfast, lunch and dinner. You could go an entire cruise on RCI without paying extra for food.

* Has anyone been on any of the RCCL ships with the ice skating? Is this synthetic ice? or an actual rink? Do we need to bring our own skates or are they rented on board?
It's real ice in an actual rink. Skates are provided free of charge, as are helmets, and pads. You may BYO if you like.

Woody
 
I have been researching RCCL for quite some time now - and I am still completely lost with it all. I do not like their website at all.
Royal's website is notoriously awful! ;)

Hopefully I can get some assistance from all of you:

* Which deck would you consider the loudest? In otherwords, I know on some cruise ships, experienced cruisers choose not to get a cabin on a certain deck because they can hear the pool pumps etc. Does RCCL have this problem on "Any" of their ships?
I've never heard of issues with pool pumps and the like, but their buffet (The Windjammer) is often on a top deck, so i'd avoid the rooms under that unless you want to hear chairs scraping. In general, I try not to get a room with any public spaces above it. I've also heard the rooms directly above the clubs can be loud. DH and I had a room on Liberty of the Seas directly above the main dining room and did not hear a peep.

* Is the Dreamworks characters worth the RCCL 'try' ? I have a 5 year old and am wondering if he would enjoy it at all or if it is so sparce that it really doesn't even make a difference.
There are tons of chances for character interactions. Many ships have a free character breakfast, and a dreamworks parade. There are scheduled meeting and photo times like on Disney. Sometimes the characters randomly show up - DH and I went to see Puss in Boots in the 3D theater on Liberty and Puss was outside the entrance taking pictures with guests.

* Is the food included?? I keep seeing something about dining plans but can't seem to find a price, which makes me think that food is not included.
Like Disney, food in the main dining room is included, as are many snack venues. There are also specialty restaurants equivalent to Remy and Palo that have an upcharge, anywhere from $5 to over $100 (most are $30 or so). There aren't any dining plans, though Oasis and Allure have a "central park dining package" which includes three of the restaurants in the central park area for a set price.

* What type of drinks are included if any?
Iced tea and lemonade and tap water. I think some juice from the iced tea/lemonade machines in the morning (I'm never awake for breakfast, so don't really remember), and tea and i think regular ol' coffee in the cafe. If that's not enough, you can purchase a soda card for $6.50/day, a non-alcohol package (includes frozen mocktails) for $20/day, or numerous alcohol packages that range in price.


* Are the extra things included in the price such as the zip lining, ice skating, flow rider, rock climbing, inline skating etc
All of those things are included.

* Has anyone been on any of the RCCL ships with the ice skating? Is this synthetic ice? or an actual rink? Do we need to bring our own skates or are they rented on board?
It's an actual rink. You can rent skates on board. I've read different things about whether royal will let you bring your own skates, so I'm no help there!

* Have any of you done the concierge level? Other than the size of the rooms - is it worth the price difference?
We've done concierge on Disney Dream and were spoiled rotten. We have a Crown Loft Suite on our Allure cruise next month which will be our first time concierge level on Royal. So far, I'm not impressed - no shoreside concierge, no welcome email/letter from the concierge, no opportunity to make requests or reservations yet. However, the room looks phenomenal, so I'm looking forward to that.
Sorry for all of the questions, but their website is sooooo frustrating. And to call their phone line, I'm just going to get a representative of the company trying to 'sell' me on anything. I want the Truth! And I know I can rely on my fellow DIS board members for that!

Thanks in advance (soooo much!)
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Tried to answer above. We've been on 3 royal cruises (2 on liberty and 1 on oasis), and have 3 more scheduled next year, and have been on 2 disney cruises with 2 more scheduled next year (B2Bs). Hope this helps!
 
I'm considering a royal Caribbean cruise allure of the seas. It looks like a fantastic ship my question is because it's so big how do u keep in contact with your party I've been on three Disney cruises and one carnival (I erased the carnival from my memory bank first cruise I ever took and it was so bad I did not want to cruise again until I did Disney)anyways...are there phones like Disney so everyone can contact each other???? Sent from my iPad using DISBoards

They have some phones at Guest Services you can rent for a fee. I hear they go quickly on embarkation day and I've read mixed reviews as to how well they actually work. We have 2 teenage sons so the communication was a real challenge. We put magnetic dry erase boards on our 2 stateroom doors, kept extra keys to each other's rooms inside our stateroom doors, and had sticky notes to leave notes on our mirrors. My oldest disliked the teen club so he spent a lot of time kicking around with us anyway. Our youngest was the biggest challenge. We just set times to meet up and left him notes with times of required places to be like dinners, shows, etc. The curfew for the teens is much stricter on RCI so he didn't stay out until the wee hours like he normally does on DCL. We didn't have much issues with getting him out of bed to go ashore as a result. Yay!
 
I guess I am a Disney snob. I have sailed on Carnival & had a horrible experience. Their customer service was terrible. I realize that Carnival & RCI are different lines but many do not know that thy are both owned by the same firm.

Thanks for your posts!

My husband and I are trying to NOT be DCL snobs (we've sailed 7 times on Disney and once with NatGeo) ... and are sailing with RCCL in less than a week! We are going without our sons (a first for us), and are anxious (and maybe a little apprehensive) to see what it will be like for us! We have some friends that will be going with us, so it should be a hoot!

Deb
 

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