Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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So it looks like Delta will be the airline of choice for anyone wanting to take the safer route with flying. I know if I chose to fly I would stay away from the others for a while, I don't want to be a sardine in a tin can.

How is it safer though? You are still closer than 6 feet to the other person in your row.

More comfy? Sure. Safer? No.

Although they have found flying to actually be pretty safe in regards to Covid because of how the air is filtered and circulates.
 
How is it safer though? You are still closer than 6 feet to the other person in your row.

More comfy? Sure. Safer? No.

Although they have found flying to actually be pretty safe in regards to Covid because of how the air is filtered and circulates.
I still feel better not having a stranger right on top of me, honestly. Has nothing to do with physical comfort, but with how planes have been over the last decade or so with diminishing space and packed flights it's psychologically more comfortable. They are also being the toughest as far as masks go, willing to kick off anyone who challenges them, and that eases the mind as well.
 
I have friends that work at the Delta headquarters, there is no talk currently about any changes in the foreseeable future. They said there are rumors that come Christmas time they’ll make changes, but for now they’re staying safe and blocking out seats. Besides, they’re having to combine flights just to get to their new full capacity, I don’t think there is a need to stop the middle seats now anyway.
They were more pleasant in August than my flight to DFW on American last week. But I didn’t necessarily feel safer. Their flights are more convenient to MCO, but were also 2x as much as AA when I booked flights for Thanksgiving. They wouldn’t struggle to fill 67% of their flights from here if they weren’t cost prohibitive.
I’ve always viewed DL as the Disney of flying domestically, tbh. Their service and response is a little better than next best, and most of the time I’m willing to pay a slight premium in exchange.
 
How is it safer though? You are still closer than 6 feet to the other person in your row.

More comfy? Sure. Safer? No.

Although they have found flying to actually be pretty safe in regards to Covid because of how the air is filtered and circulates.

100% it is quite nice not to have someone in the middle seat - but it's false security if you're concerned about proximity. I'm more concerned about air quality in poorly ventilated indoor spaces than i am within the body of an airplane. A lot is going on with the air up there in a pressurized cabin - I think a lot of it was publicity.
Keeping the middle seat open makes the airline look good - but it's not sustainable safety theater.
If you are concerned about the air when flying then you should drive - one open middle seat won't make a difference.
 
The stupid zones where people can go for a rest from wearing masks. Outdoors would kinda be ok. Indoors, taking mask of just for the sake of it? Bonkers.
Thanks for the explanation. Not sure how you can say that having never seen them but you are free to have your opinion. We very much appreciated the reprieve from the heat in the air conditioning while we were there in July and September. I think they are great.
 
100% it is quite nice not to have someone in the middle seat - but it's false security if you're concerned about proximity. I'm more concerned about air quality in poorly ventilated indoor spaces than i am within the body of an airplane. A lot is going on with the air up there in a pressurized cabin - I think a lot of it was publicity.
Keeping the middle seat open makes the airline look good - but it's not sustainable safety theater.
If you are concerned about the air when flying then you should drive - one open middle seat won't make a difference.
It is definitetly about looking good, and something I'm not afraid to exploit. If I have a choice between all the major carriors I will chose Delta for this alone (no shame, I use miles to fly 99% of the time, and going to WDW from ATL I can easily fly first class, so I could sit alone). That being said, we moved and now it's more inconvenient to fly so we will drive the 6.5 hours down no problem. I'll find something else to use my miles on eventually. This completely a mind game, I'm not saying it's safer, I'm just saying for those that feel uncomfortable flying they may choose Delta over the appearance of it being safer. Of course they are doing other stuff to make it safer, heavy mask mandates and fogging down the planes and what not, but this is the most visible.
 
It is definitetly about looking good, and something I'm not afraid to exploit. If I have a choice between all the major carriors I will chose Delta for this alone (no shame, I use miles to fly 99% of the time, and going to WDW from ATL I can easily fly first class, so I could sit alone). That being said, we moved and now it's more inconvenient to fly so we will drive the 6.5 hours down no problem. I'll find something else to use my miles on eventually. This completely a mind game, I'm not saying it's safer, I'm just saying for those that feel uncomfortable flying they may choose Delta over the appearance of it being safer. Of course they are doing other stuff to make it safer, heavy mask mandates and fogging down the planes and what not, but this is the most visible.

I'm not picking on you, lots of people do this, I'm sure I do too. :)

It's just the semantics of saying something is safer when it isn't. It leads people to believe the other airlines are unsafe (which maybe they are for other reasons), when the middle aisle seat makes no difference for Covid other than a psychological one.

I say the same thing when people claim Disney is "safer" than other places. We can't say that for sure unless we know for certain other places are not taking the same measures.

The big picture, I feel like we all need to be really careful when we make claims about the safety of things related to the virus so we can all help to stop spread of misinformation on any side of the argument.

(wear your mask, social distance please)
 
I'm not picking on you, lots of people do this, I'm sure I do too. :)

It's just the semantics of saying something is safer when it isn't. It leads people to believe the other airlines are unsafe (which maybe they are for other reasons), when the middle aisle seat makes no difference for Covid other than a psychological one.

I say the same thing when people claim Disney is "safer" than other places. We can't say that for sure unless we know for certain other places are not taking the same measures.

The big picture, I feel like we all need to be really careful when we make claims about the safety of things related to the virus so we can all help to stop spread of misinformation on any side of the argument.

(wear your mask, social distance please)
Oh, I will never say it's definitely safer, my original comment to the SW info was that people may choose Delta over other airlines because it FEELS safer, not that it actually IS safer. I work in healthcare, I focus on crisis management/risk management, people want to feel safer right now and that's all it boils down to. There are definitely places that are safer than others, I still won't eat inside a restaurant (I will at WDW, but that's because I've seen their safety precautions over what I've seen at Applebee's), and I still say WDW is safer than Wal-mart (and I'm sticking to it lol)
 
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