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Flag and a patriotic wreath out. Father and husband are retired military.
No, I don't because I can't treat it right.
In addition, I don't do anything flag related. My grandfather was quite uptight about the flag and he got really insane when he saw the "flag" or depictions of the flag being used to make clothing and other items. I remember being 6 years old in the very late 1960s and my cousin and I got to walk down the boardwalk alone for the first time and each given a dollar. We went into this little hippy gift shop and bought ourselves macrame purses that looked the like American flag. My grandfather thought it was so disrespectful. I think it's just really rubbed off on me so, while I don't think much about what others do, I find myself repelled at the thougt of flag-motif shirts, decorations, etc.
I'm not sure if it's really disrespectful or not.
We have an American flag and a rainbow doormat. I'm sure our neighbors are pretty confused with where we stand politically.
We started displaying a US flag in 2020 in that brief moment when it seemed like the country was working together to fight a common enemy. We have stuck with it since then.
We follow the flag etiquette though so it is not out there overnight or in rain/bad weather... and we occasionally just forget to put it up.
We have an American flag and a rainbow doormat. I'm sure our neighbors are pretty confused with where we stand politically.
Playing it at sporting events reminds me of old video of USSR and China when they had their events and parades with all the pomp and nationalism.
We have a flag pole but rarely fly the flag. Normally my husband puts it up for the 4th of July.
Garden flagsI think that's where my aversion to it comes from too. Both of my grandfathers were WWII vets who were critical of the flags-as-apparel thing. I grew up with the interpretation that it is against flag code, though I know the prevailing thought now is that because it has a different number of stars/stripes, different layout, etc., the flag code doesn't apply to clothing that is designed to invoke the American flag.
That is something that I've thought about. I kind of hate that the notion of patriotism itself is assumed to go hand-in-hand with a certain set of political beliefs and my daughter at one point suggested putting up US and Pride flags in the two holders on our porch as a sort of statement... but ultimately, my self-awareness won the day and I realized I'm unlikely to keep either of the flags in good condition and unwilling to abuse them. So we remain flag-less.
Read the flag code and decide for yourselfWhat about a flag tattoo?
I don't think that's the point - I think it's about respect for the flag and what it stands for.Most flags made of modern materials are fine to leave in the rain.
I disagree, and the flag code states that using the flag on objects is against flag code.Flag-patterned clothing is not a flag and is not subject to the flag code.
When we moved into our home, there was a Canadian flag in a flagpole attached to our fence. It was really nice, and looked brand new, so we left it up.It's funny you say that. I had to go back out again after I first responded. And I noticed four homes with flagpoles....and no flag. I suppose those people could have bought the homes with the flag poles...and aren't "flag people". Now I'll be looking for flagpoles and whether there are flags on them for days . Maybe some are like you and only fly them on certain holidays. My father was a big flag pole guy....the kind where you could fly three at a time. Flags always flying for sure at my parents house.
I did, but it sounds like you need to.Read the flag code and decide for yourself
The flag code is explicitly clear that all-weather flags are perfectly fine to fly in the rain. There's nothing disrespectful about it. Disrespect comes from letting the flag get soiled or stained. Rain doesn't soil or stain an all-weather flag.I don't think that's the point - I think it's about respect for the flag and what it stands for.
"The flag" does not mean "anything with stars-and-stripes pattern."I disagree, and the flag code states that using the flag on objects is against flag code.
No. Never. And, I don't buy things that are flag-related. I think the allegiance to it all is kind of creepy, TBH. Along the same line as religion, which I also find creepy
Pretty much agree. I think the overt nationalism/patriotism you see in the USA is uniquely American. I also don't understand why we start sporting (and other) events by playing/singing the national anthem. What is there about a baseball game that first needs a statement of our nationalism? I'm also curious to learn what countries require their school students to pledge allegiance to the country every day? The ones that come to mind are a little scary, and not anything with which I'd care to be associated. I don't understand Americans' obsession with "showing how patriotic" they are.
Pretty much agree. I think the overt nationalism/patriotism you see in the USA is uniquely American. I also don't understand why we start sporting (and other) events by playing/singing the national anthem. What is there about a baseball game that first needs a statement of our nationalism? I'm also curious to learn what countries require their school students to pledge allegiance to the country every day? The ones that come to mind are a little scary, and not anything with which I'd care to be associated. I don't understand Americans' obsession with "showing how patriotic" they are.
My country Ireland is very patriotic. We only became The Republic of Ireland in 1949 after centuries of colonization by The UK and rebellions and civil war. Our flag has just as meaning as the American flag, but we dont have the the same attachment , if thats the right word, to the flag like in America. We don't have things like the pledge of allegiance in schools every day.
Our National Anthem is played at sporting events in Ireland. Many theatres and shows and even nightclubs sometimes play it to signify the end of the evenings events. Playing the National Anthem is a leftover throwback to the days of British rule in Ireland, an act of defiance to our oppressors. The Irish National Anthem was a song that became popular as a rebellion song around 1916 during the time of final rebellion against British rule in Ireland.
I think a lot of it is about perspective. Sure, from our suburban, somewhat privileged living rooms, the flag may not mean that much. But think of what it meant to the young soldiers who were sent to other countries to fight for the freedoms we enjoy today. Think what of what it means to people who are risking life and limb to come into this country and gain citizenship. Think about what it meant on 9/11 when we came together as a country. Think of what it meant to you growing up. Yes, times have changed. And some can choose not to hold the flag in esteem if that’s how they feel. But others can, for their own reasons. Personal liberties should still be respected.