SWGE RUMOR

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This is from another website from someone who I think is a cast member but I can't say for sure. But this person tends to know things before hand. But its just a rumor. But a very interesting one!

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Soon the Disney Parks Blog and a media release will reveal the online process to score a staggered "reservation window" for entrance into Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge. But that's just going to be a scam to try and prevent too many AP's from showing up casually before summer blockouts begin on June 24. What's really being planned is that a chunk of the land capacity will be saved each day for a Standby line that will be stacked on the Big Thunder Trail. From May 31 you'll be able to enter the SW:GE Standby line on the Big Thunder Trail and wait to be let into the land in between pulses of reservation holders. The land entrance will be handled like any other Fastpass ride, and the Big Thunder Trail entry caves will be the "merge point" where Standby and Fastpass are allowed in alternately. Leads and managers will use radios to communicate between land entrances and pulse in Guests from the Standby line as reservation holders arrive and depart.

Fastpass won't be offered on Falcon anytime soon, so the SW:GE land entrance will be handled like a Fastpass/Standby entrance instead.

No word on how DAS holders will be given priority land entrance if a Standby line is present, and DAS may be given a Return Time based on the current land Standby wait. But DAS is part of the SW:GE land entrance process when there is a land entry wait and reservation windows are booked out for the day. Guest Relations CM's will be staffing the SW:GE land entrances to be available for DAS assistance and concerns.

The Parks Blog is gonna play it off in their upcoming announcement that a reservation is the ONLY way to get into the land from May 31 to June 23, but that's not the real truth. They'll lowball the number of reservations available daily on purpose and allow in big pulses of non-reservations Guests, so long as you don't mind waiting some on the Big Thunder Trail. But expect the Standby lines to be long on May 31 and that opening weekend.

The way to get into the park overall will be handled just like the 60th kickoff was, with Pumbaa Parking Lot opening for pre-staging on May 29, and then a line formed at the Harbor Blvd. entry portal and into the East Esplanade on May 30. Toy Story Lot will come online for pre-staging parking once Pumbaa fills. Harbor Blvd. will be the point of entry for almost all early arrivals for May 31 and opening weekend, since the Mickey & Friends structure expansion still won't be open and ready yet this June.

Also more trash talk about ROTR and all it's problems. It's still bad. Real bad. An important part of a new attraction opening is something called the 72 Hour Test, or MDOT (Multi Day Operating Test). An MDOT is when a ride system is operated continually for 72 hours straight, round the clock for three days non-stop. Ops CM's operate the ride system in shifts, Imagineers are there also to monitor progress 24 hours a day, and Facilities CM's are on constant standby in case of downtimes or mechanical issues. The ride doesn't have to be perfect for the MDOT, and downtimes are expected, but it needs to operate at least 80% of the time for 72 hours straight to pass the test. Every Disney ride has to pass this critical test before it can continue on to final prep stages before opening for Guests. Falcon already passed it's 72 Hour Test and got the greenlight from WDI and DLR Facilities. A May 31 opening is a cake walk for Falcon, especially due to basically having 4 different turntables and thus 4 different ride systems that are all behaving as expected and planned.

But ROTR is nowhere near being able to try an MDOT and operate for 72 hours straight. Having ROTR open by D23 Expo is a wild goal right now, but there's a scenario that ROTR might be delayed until late fall or the '19 Holiday season. Maybe there will be a breakthrough and ROTR will get up and running for paying Guests later this summer, but no one is betting on it.

The May 31 opening date for SW:GE was agreed to by WDI and TDA management because Falcon is almost ready to go for Guests already, with Entertainment, Foods and Stores on track to be ready by mid May, and there's no sense in waiting for ROTR to be ready months from now. It's gonna be awhile for ROTR, so TDA is going to get the party started on May 31.

And as of now you won't really need a reservation to get in, no matter what the Disney Parks Blog and management says to the media.
 
This is from another website from someone who I think is a cast member but I can't say for sure. But this person tends to know things before hand. But its just a rumor. But a very interesting one!

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. Leads and managers will use radios to communicate between land entrances and pulse in Guests from the Standby line as reservation holders arrive and depart.


e media.

has anyone seen this activity at Disneyland before?

pulse is a very interesting word, I wonder if they meant admission by guests? Because I see the word pulse in my language usage as what the surf does at beach, up/down up/down.....I don't see stand-by line getting shorter but a continuous flow of being longer.
 


I don't know if I believe this. This is going to backfire on them because as soon as this opens on May 31, it's gonna get out via social media that you don't really need a reservation, and then people are going to show up in droves. What is the point of announcing this whole reservation requirement, adding all kinds of language about not being able to enter without one, and then just throwing all that away on day 1?

More likely, this will be the way they handle land entry AFTER June 23.
 
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I don't know if I believe this. This is going to backfire on them because as soon as this opens on May 31, it's gonna get out via social media that you don't really need a reservation, and then people are going to show up in droves. What is the point of announcing this whole reservation requirement, adding all kinds of language about not being able go enter without one, and then just throwing all that away on day 1?

More likely, this will be the way they handle land entry AFTER June 23.

I believe it. There are too many fans who won’t know or won’t get reservations. However I believe it will be a lengthy wait and they will actively discourage people from waiting with high wait time.
But....if you want it bad enough, Disney will have a way in place.
I think one of the purposes of this line is to compete against the droves of people who aren't going to read the fine print about needing a reservation and would otherwise show up, be turned away, and then head straight for city hall to complain. If they at least have a standby line set up, then nobody can truly go to city hall to complain about not being able to get it.
Will people still go to complain? Yes. But I think it will help reduce the amount of people going over there to whine because they didn't pay attentio.
 


The reason I believe it is at some point they WILL have mass chaos and long lines. It’s a fact. Delaying it does nothing.
It does not have to be mass chaos. Long lines, for sure. But it is possible to avoid the mass chaos if they plan well and train the CMs. Disney did it successfully at Animal Kingdom 2 years ago when Pandora opened.

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I don't know if I believe this. This is going to backfire on them because as soon as this opens on May 31, it's gonna get out via social media that you don't really need a reservation, and then people are going to show up in droves. What is the point of announcing this whole reservation requirement, adding all kinds of language about not being able to enter without one, and then just throwing all that away on day 1?

More likely, this will be the way they handle land entry AFTER June 23.
It makes sense that this would be what they implement after the reservation period. Although, I can also see them occasionally testing a standby line during the reservation period if things are running smoothly.

What everyone seems to forget is that the reservation period (as currently announced) is ONLY 3 weeks. People are acting like it's going to be an entire summer of unknowing guests showing up without a reservation and then complaining all summer long. It's just 3 weeks! Also, I'd guess that many of the same people who aren't aware they need a reservation, also probably booked their trip during these 3 weeks with no idea or expectation that SW:GE would even be open. So I really don't think there's going to be a huge mass of people complaining that they didn't know they needed a reservation.

I agree with you, that if there is a no-reservation standby line from day 1, THAT would lead to more complaints because it means a 1-3 day visitor who did not make a reservation now thinks they have a chance to see SW:GE, but then is faced with an hours long line just to get into the land, followed by an hours long queue for the one attraction. Makes more sense to just deal with a handful of unaware guests for three weeks.
 
Then what is even the point of the "reservation period?"

.......a litmus test....if the site crashes within the first hour and by the end of the day all reservations are filled........then they have not done a enough on the STREET CORNER surveying folks about SWGE
 
So does this mean if you are staying on the Harbor side, you'd have to take a taxi or walk all the way around the property to enter on the Downtown Disney side? Or go through security on one end and just walk straight through until you reach the Pumba parking lot?
 
Maybe so people will book hotel rooms at the resort properties. Bookings have been lower this year. No better way to get them up than to offer a reservation for GE with them.

Okay, and then potentially angering those guests who then will complain "why did I pay $600 per night for this guaranteed reservation if you are just letting in people without them?"

That would go over well...
 
.......a litmus test....if the site crashes within the first hour and by the end of the day all reservations are filled........then they have not done a enough on the STREET CORNER surveying folks about SWGE

What? I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
 
Okay, and then potentially angering those guests who then will complain "why did I pay $600 per night for this guaranteed reservation if you are just letting in people without them?"

That would go over well...

Yep—I know I would be ticked. We just stayed for 5 nights offsite this past week for what it would cost for my family of 6 to stay 1 night onsite. I would be furious to spend my money thinking that was the only way to see the land and then come to find out that others can get in without the reservation. They really need to put out some clarifications soon (I know that no matter what the crowds will still come), but I’m hoping it won’t turn into pure chaos and angry crowds for the CMs sake.
 
Okay, and then potentially angering those guests who then will complain "why did I pay $600 per night for this guaranteed reservation if you are just letting in people without them?"

That would go over well...

They won't be mad because they will be inside the Disneyland bubble where everyday is Christmas and every night is New Years Eve. :)

But if all of this is true they will be happy not to wait 10 hours+ in a hot packed stand by line and still not possibly get the chance to ride anything when/if the ride happens to go down.
 
Maybe so people will book hotel rooms at the resort properties. Bookings have been lower this year. No better way to get them up than to offer a reservation for GE with them.
Eh, seems too complicated if the only reason is to get more rooms booked for a short 3 week period. If it was only to get people to book rooms, then they could have just called it an EXCLUSIVE LIMITED TIME ADVANCED PREVIEW for HOTEL GUESTS ONLY. And then just done a couple weeks of that, instead of a reservation system open to everyone. Again, this is only 3 weeks. If they needed to get bookings up in that short 3 week period, there's a lot simpler things they could have done.
 
They won't be mad because they will be inside the Disneyland bubble where everyday is Christmas and every night is New Years Eve. :)

But if all of this is true they will be happy not to wait 10 hours+ in a hot packed stand by line and still not possibly get the chance to ride anything when/if the ride happens to go down.

Uh, no, that's not how people are. You have obviously never worked in a customer service/management role. :)
 

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